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He really is. I just read in the Plain Dealer he's missed 75 games so far since he's been in the NBA.

Fixed it for ya....

Not hard to beat another team when yours is at full strength.

These guys have nothing left in their legs, and they're getting absolutely no help from the refs everytime they drive in. It's gotta be a little soul crushing to work so hard, get hit on a shot and get no call. Then they hustle down the floor and get whistled for a touch foul on the other end.

And the refs are against you.

How can LeBron have 40 points 14 rebounds and 11 assists and we still lost by 13?

We're not gonna win this with our bench. Much love for The Cavs getting this far.

That's true. The Warriors are at full strength, and the Cavaliers are down 3 of their top players.

*Sigh*

Well .... nothing left to do but win it all anyway.

I said at the beginning of the year that I worried about the Love trade because three of our starters had played less than 65 percent of their possible career games.

That is a damn good question. He can't do anything more. At this point not having the supporting cast (injured) just makes too much of a difference. Says quite a lot that they made it this far without those players (irving, Love).

Our bench is too busy starting right now.

I love your optimism, YTown! But, I just don't see it happening, especially with the way these games are being called/not called. LeBron has been getting killed and the refs swallow their whistles. Curry gets brushed and it's a flagrant foul. We're up against too many obstacles to win this year.

Stop your homerism. Championship teams overcome bad calls.

We don't leave our bench in long enough to get going either. Miller had a nice 3, Jones is supposed to be a sniper also.

Why aren't those guys staying in long enough to get going?

No, championship teams apparently GET the bad calls.

Yeah, but that many?

Because their defense is pretty bad.

That's about as much as they "get going" at this point in their career. They weren't brought in to play massive minutes.

dunno.

look, we are a sever disadvantage, but we are missing WIDE open shots. that has zero to do with calls from the refs.

Smith got something going, but where is shump, JJ? Delly.....his offensive game is offensive. i love the guy, but lets be objective here.

We re missing kyrie and love because we need points.

Every time we play a western conference team, it's going to be a shootout. we can only play defensively for so long before they make adjustments and get their wide open looks.

hopefully next year we learn from our mistakes.

If we're going to get bad calls, make it worth it. Start roughing up Curry.

I've played and watched basketball for 30 years. My dad coached the sport for 41 years. I can be objective when it comes to how the game is called, but we have been getting worked over in this series. I'll see if I can find the vine, but LeBron got absolutely violated on a play in the game and it just counted for a single field goal, no foul. Championship teams can overcome some bad calls, but they can't overcome call after call after call after call after call....

I also don't understand why Blatt didn't try to change anything up. Call different plays or something!

He changed up a ton!

We need to accept the fact we honestly have little to no shot as we're starting our bench.

Exactly. There's not a whole lot we can do. We're giving it our all. Our lack of healthy bodies and Golden State are sapping our legs. The lack of calls from the refs plus touch-fouls on the other side is sapping our will. It's a lot to overcome and there isn't really a magic "playcall" that's going to save us right now.

No doubt. It's a shame because this team has really given everything they have.

I'm not doubting the effort, I'm as proud of our team as you guys. I'm just used to seeing people call timeout when the other team goes on a tear and I honestly don't recall Blatt doing that the entire second half.

In the interest of full disclosure, I'm most likely the least knowledgeable poster here when it comes to basketball, so if it seems like I'm asking a stupid question that's most likely because it is!

There were some horrible calls, although they did finally call GS for a moving pick.

Sometimes there just isn't anywhere to point blame. This team is without it's second and third leading scorers, as well as a good defensive player and big body in Varejao. It sucks. It's the hand we got dealt.

Lebron did not finish well enough, and hasn't in the last few games. There's some blame there, but how can you fault a guy who is keeping his team in these games.

I think in sports we always need to point the finger at someone, but really, we're just physically and emotionally spent as a team.

Still though, If the Cavs can find a way to get this next game, all bets are off next Friday. You get 48 minutes (or more) to shock the world, and you have the best player in the league. Right now, I will gladly take that.

Not having the extra day really sucks though. Golden State has had at least 2 full days off before every home game, the Cavs have not. It was set up that way late in the conference finals. It's not to screw the Cavs, it's just that the league loves Sunday-Tuesday-Thursday games. Those are high rating nights.

The Cavs have to find a way to continue to play slow, yet run good offense. That is extremely difficult to do. They are putting such a high premium on GS transition offense that it is inflicting damage on their own possessions. People can whine about ISO ball, but when you don't have your 2nd and 3rd top scorers, you don't have many options.

Hang in there guys, I know it looks lost, but you're one win away from making this extremely interesting. To be honest, a game 7 at Golden State puts a ton of pressure on them and less on Lebron.

I think we lose Tuesday, but you never know.

People are ripping Blatt on social media. The only way he deserves to be fired is if next year he's playing the Big 3 stupid minutes.

The only way he is gone is if Gilbert has a big fish, and I can assure you there isn't any big fish coming. The Calipari boat has sailed (and I don't really see him as that much of an upgrade).

I mean really, who do people want if they want Blatt gone?

Who is the "HIRE BERNIE KOSAR/BILL COWHER" equivalent of the Cavs fandom?

I admire what Blatt's done. He's worked a ton with a stacked deck.

Kinda stupid to blame Blatt. Our team's injuries had nothing to do with him. He is trying to make filet mignon out of hamburger meat.

I think we win a very close one Tuesday. The refs will be giving us all the calls we have not been getting and then some. Trust me, the NBA is not gonna lose out on the extra $$$ that a Friday game 7 hoopla would bring.

So am I too assume that after one good game, Steph Curry is now going to win the Finals MVP?

Even if we lose tuesday, I'd still give it to Lebron...

You didnt really need to point that out

It was a good run, its hard to win a chip completely healthy, let alone whatever it is we are.. We just don't have the talent and bodies to put on the floor. I think we've seen we have players that aren't really good fits for this kind of ball. Delly and Thompson are just HUGE liabilities on offense, and Thompson is a huge liability on Defense..I don't care what anyone says, watch how bad his is on defense. No way I give him big money..And I'm going to give shump benefit of the doubt being hurt, but dude has been trash in finals. We needed everyone to contribute something every night and it just didn't happen. We wore down. It happens.

As good as Lebron has been at times, he's still a really inefficient player, wasted possesions at the worst possible time. Stanky Leg came out too much for my liking.. But with little to no help, he did what he could

Kerr pretty much wiped the floor with Blatt when it came to adjusting and getting the team in right position to play to their strengths. The biggest thing I hated that blatt did was adjust to them instead of making them adjust to us. Keep Mosgov in, slow the game down and run your offense through him, make them put their bigs in and take your chances. Thompson has no offense and might be the worst help defender I've seen ever play. Mosgov can play a little, he's not the greatest, but he protects the rim and has semblance of a post game...run with that...make them go to bogut when everyone else is in foul trouble trying to defend.. I hate that, you change your identity in the finals from what got you there to begin with.

The other issue I have with Blatt is his rotations, they didn't make any sense...you have JR go off in the first half, and the second half it was JJ and MM for the majority...thats just stupid. Mosgov has 28 points last game and he plays for 5 minutes through 3 quarters... I like Blatt but lets not pretend he had that much to do with us getting here. I hope because of his pedigree he sticks around and figures it out, but he was a hindrance in the finals.

All in all I think if we said we would be in the finals back in Oct, we'd take it. No doubt in my mind if we were 100% we would have swept. Warriors should be sending Olynyk fruit basket or something, maybe retire his jersey.

I wish I had a dollar for every time the announcers said last night that the officials missed a call that should have gone the Cavs way, I'd have filet mignon for lunch today. I think the announcers have done a pretty good job of pointing out that the Cavs aren't getting any calls, LeBron takes more contact than anybody in the NBA when he goes to the basket and gets very few calls... and when Dramond Green does get called for a foul, he acts like somebody assaulted his kids. In his mind, that dude hasn't committed a single foul yet in this series.

With that said, what bit the Cavs last night is what has bitten them in several games in this series, they don't finish games well. They should have won games 1 and 2 in regulation but both went to OT and they won 1 of them...

Are we watching WWE or the NBA

Why does lebron ever settle for a contested, fading jumper? It seems like he can just back anyone down and get a layup

Was it that obvious?

let's hope we can push a game 7 on tuesday. i'd really hate for our season to end on our home court.