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I think he only referenced dealing with calling a kid gay, because that is how this whole thing started.

No matter what the infraction, you correct it.

You treat everyone with respect, but you don't have to agree with their beliefs or way of life.

This subject keeps coming up, and we talk about race, religion and sexual preference acceptance. So lets expand that. Should we be tolerant and accepting of the lifestyles of neo-nazis, clan members, skinheads, bloods, crips?

Respecting someones life choices and accepting them as OK, are 2 different things and should be left to the individual to decide. But again, we should all be respectful regardless.

To me that would not fall under the category. That is a matter of inappropriate behaviour. I would be just as opposed to that type of behaviour as anyone else but You can address the bad behaviour by teaching respect for people, not acceptance of everything they dou

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If Kanye West and Kim Kardashian are drowning in front of you and you can only save one of them...


What kind of sandwich would you make?

Exactly. We can accept a person as a beloved child of God, and as a valuable member of society without agreeing with a lifestyle that the Bible says is sinful.

It seems as though society today has this idea that a person's actions and feelings are who they are. They are not. This is why the Good Lord gave us self control. He gives each and every one of us something that we feel a sinful urge for, and that we need to resist. (with His help) God knows I had mine, but with the love and power of God in my life, I have been able to turn away from the sinful activities I was pursuing as best I can. Do I slip and make mistakes? Sure. However, that reinforces my commitment to be better, for the sake of my Lord. We can accept that we have urges and desires without having to act on every one of them.

Some struggle with sexual temptation. (both homosexuals, and heterosexuals) Some struggle with a violent nature. Others still struggle with greed, or jealousy, or any number of other things that the Bible says are sins. I believe that God gives us all something that we have to struggle with, because the struggle builds the character God wants in His people.

I fully agree with your apples/oranges comparison. We have moved actions into the category of being Constitutionally protected, and that is not really the case. We do not want to discriminate against people based on sexual orientation, but that does not mean that we should be forced to support certain actions, any more than we should be forced to support extramarital sex, premarital sex, or anything else the Bible says is sinful, no matter how society at large feels about such things. This is what the 1st amendment is all about .... the protection to speak against things we see as being wrong. There is a distinction between condemning a person, and speaking against their actions. However,, some people cannot see the distinction any longer.

Racism and sexism should be corrected, but not using the method this teacher used. If he would have told the students that such talk is not acceptable, and that besides, you often cannot tell if a person is gay just by looking at them, then that would have been fine. His choice, instead, to use a story about 2 gay princes, and them kissing at the end, is not. It is completely inappropriate for a class of 8 year olds.

If either of those first two things happened, the kid would be disciplined privately, parents would have been notified, etc.. I doubt the teacher would have used it as a reason to read a book to all of the kids.

Second, it's just a poor decision based on where we are right now collectively on the issue. It's a very hot-button issue and he should have realized that. Politically this is the equivalent of a female third grade teacher telling her kids she's going to be out for a couple days because she's having an abortion... People are very sensitive about what their 8 year old kids hear from other people... Most parents want to control, to a large extent, when and how their kids are exposed to some of these moral issues.

Lastly, the book isn't just about "tolerance" or "treating people with respect".. the book is a glowing endorsement of gay marriage... which is an even BIGGER hot-button issue.

I'm sure the guy had good intentions, he's probably a great teacher and real nice guy.. but his judgement in this case was extremely poor and it has everything to do with the political climate and nothing to do with anybody's personal opinions on teaching kids to be respectful...

Just more pushing of the agenda.

Glad he is gone.
Glad they canned the Principle too.

Now I can get back to watching the Networks pushing Transgender on us as okey dokey. The Propaganda Machine is in full swing.

oh you networks pushing shows like 19 kids and counting?

and covering up their child molesting kid, cause "he asked for forgiveness?"

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I didn't realize the networks covered up what had happened, as a matter of fact, when they were made aware of it they cancelled the show.

Further, Christians are not perfect ... not by any stretch of the imagination.

Heck, Paul, before his conversion, when he was known as Saul, hunted down and killed the believers of Christ. God forgave him, and God forgives any of us, if we repent of our sins, accept Christ as our Lord and Savior, and ask Him for forgiveness.

I have never seen an episode of the show in question, so I have no idea how they present things on the show, but as I understand things related to this particular uproar, no one "found him out", but in this case, the person in question admitted what he did on his own.

If we have done something wrong, as Christians, we should admit it (to God, if no one else) repent of our sin, trust in the Lord to forgive our sins, and we will be forgiven.

This does not mean that we are forgiven as a legal matter. If there are legal penalties that accompany our prior sins, then we will have to pay those as well.

Considering the quote in the original article has him using me as a subject, I doubt that he was a "great teacher." Of course, I spent time as an English major and can be an a-hole/"grammar nazi".

Not sure which quote you are talking about, but even if he did, I wouldn't think that one misspoken sentence means a guy can't be a great 3rd grade teacher.

Why should a group of traditionally non-violent people (Gays) be categorized in the same way violent and threatening groups are?

I would have used "my partner and I" instead of "me and my partner." (if I had a partner)

I'll attribute the dropped comma to the article's editor.

I didn't say he wasn't a great teacher. I said I doubt he was a great teacher- As in, my opinion from what little information I have seen. I even clarified after writing my opinion. I would understand punctuation errors because a lot of the rules one doesn't use often. However, knowing that I is the first-person subject form is pretty basic to me. I also feel that if he'd have been a great teacher the school would have tried harder to hold on to him.

Grammar "nazi's" are the worst kind of teachers. Research shows teachers who constantly correct their students' speaking have little to no classroom participation. Why's that? The kids are discouraged to speak to only be corrected on grammatical rules.

Grammar and proper speaking of the English language is a direct reflection of how educated you are among your peers and society. I had a few teachers like that who were grammar nazi's and while it was annoying at the time, I'm glad they were there to correct and push me.

To an extent. No one should really care about grammar. It's an extremely fluid subject. Does anyone think less of Cormac McCarthy because he doesn't use commas? David Foster Wallace wrote a cool essay about grammar in Consider The Lobster.

I think an English teacher should be able to (or be expected to) get it right...and we should care when they do not. Simple really.