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The first loss to Baltimore was killer considering we played well enough to win the game. Up 21-17 in the 4th quarter with the ball on the 8-yard line after the Taylor Gabriel deep bomb. Then after a sack and two penalties we end up with a field goal blocked and no points. Had we gone up 28-17 that would have been a wrap.

The Colts game we had 14 offensive possessions and could manage only 10 lousy offensive points. I might also add that the FG was a drive setup by a Jim Leohnard interception in which we started the drive inside the Colts 35 yard line. I remember reading about fans being mad we couldn't hold the Colts on the goal line at the end of the game. What about the 12 offensive possessions we couldn't score or hold onto the ball!?

Those two games were games we should have had and literally let slip right through our fingers.

They started Johnny only because Hoyer sucked more than a porn star his last 4 games and they thought we had no chance to win with him at that point.

I didn't really expect someone with your limited mental capacity to grasp the part about this not having anything to do with Hoyer. You should take a moment and read my disclaimer although you probably won't understand that either.

i remember everybody pissed off with that game Johnny started, they completely changed the offense for him.

the offense everybody has been practicing and playing live games, all of a sudden got swapped out by Shanny.

Sure, Manziel might have crapped the bed either way, but that made everything severely worse.

yes, Johnny wasn't ready to play, but at that point, i don't blame the coaching staff making the swap. hoyer was playing us out of the playoff race.

It had everything to do with Hoyer and if you don't understand that then your denying the truth, and making things up in your own mind AGAIN.

Yeah you would think Johnny not being ready to play would fall on Hoyer with your limited mental capacity we spoke of.

OK MR Genius


OH and maybe you should fix your disclaimer to be more accurate.

Disclaimer: My posts are a combination of fairy tales and fables from my own mind, and conclusion I have reached based on those fairy tales and fables. If your weak minded you will understand my posts. Thanks for understanding.

Your confused again (limited mental capacity bit you again) I see and are mistaking my disclaimer for yours..................

A very pleasant surprise to see such good-natured banter for a change. Posting on here lately has been akin to walking in a minefield...

Lately? Man, it's always like that. It's what keeps me coming back time and time again.

This website is my "struggle".

Who was it on the old board (onu?) that used to have a ready supply of popcorn...

vers, upbeat, Spirit, and dawg gone would provide entertainment for hours on the old board.

sorry little fella but unlike you I dont need a disclaimer for my posts, nor do I need to make up fairy tales and post them saying their facts. It's time for you to join a 12 step program and just admit you have a problem.

Hoyer withdrawls are brutal but I have heard they are developing a patch to help.

Can the patches go 10-6?

Cause that's his record as a starter.

10-6.

Even though they were losing 10-0 when he was injured against Buffalo, he's 10-6 as the Browns starter.

So Weeden's 1 TD and the team scoring 37 points after Hoyer left the game does not matter?? Hoyer did it all from his hospital room ??

I am not a Weeden fan, nor am I anti-Hoyer, but Hoyer does not deserve any recognition for a win in that game.

He was kidding. In fact, he was making fun of anyone who tries to give Hoyer a fair shake.

Some of you work way too freaking hard trying to discredit Hoyer. Way too hard.

when is the domain name getting changed to: www.hoyertalkers.net?

Lol, what would be the color scheme... oh I wonder?

I cant wait for Houston to name Mallett the starter.

Honestly. Why wouldnt they? (Assuming he's fully healthy)

hmmm want to talk withdrawls?

Man, that pic is damning.

Yep. It unfortunately sums up his career to date...

That's what I kept mentioning to those who kept repeating he was in rehab for alcohol, that we really have no idea what all of his issues were.

Were there more than just the one photo of him rolling up the bill? I remember looking at it last year, but I don't remember it being so incriminating.

I mean........that angle, his body posture, where his eyes are focused, etc...........I don't see how he was "joking around" as some posters suggested last year.

What else do you do with a rolled up bill in the bathroom of a club?.....spitballs on the walls?

C'mon, the dude was getting ready to do some blow and got caught in the process of getting ready for it. Caught in the act of doing it? No. But usually that is why clubs have stalls that are like mini closets w/ toilets so there is a level of privacy.



And for all we know the rehabilitation he checked into was for drug abuse and not alcohol. There has been no specification one way or another, right?

I'm not condemning him for anything. All I'm saying is I think its funny if people don't think he was getting ready to do coke in that photo. That's it.

I think he has/had an overall problem with substance abuse. That he has clearly been caught on cameras for...many times. excessive Coke, excessive alcohol....it's all the same....abuse.

Either way it doesnt really matter at this point. He had issues and locked hiself away for near 3 months getting his life in order. As a Browns fan, I couldnt be happier for the choices that he is making in his life. Learning to enjoy live without a substance involved is not an easy thing for many folks.

I believe it's the same photo. I believe you have to understand that people will go to the extent of using things that borderline on fables to try to deny some things. It's obvious what's going on here.

Thanks.

We don't know that he's failed a drug test. We don't know that he hasn't failed a drug test.

We do know what people roll up $20 bills for in a restroom.

Here are some more facts and questions.

You do realize that cocaine leaves your system within 72 hours, right? So unless he was tested within 72 hours of its use, he would pass a test.

Did he fail an alcohol test? I mean if your assertion is to say since he didn't fail a test as your reasoning, the same could be said for alcohol.

Were we ever told the reason/reasons for entering rehab? No we weren't. So it's anyone's guess whether drugs factored into it. It seems to me if alcohol was the only reason behind it, there would have been no problem publicly stating that.

And once again, everyone knows why you roll a $20 bill up in a bathroom.

When you are not in the substance abuse stage of the NFL, I believe there is only one or two tests a year. That's why so many players smoke weed and use other drugs without ever being caught.

Now you may be right that he didn't have a drug problem. I'm not stating that he absolutely did. But there's just as many indicators that he did, as that he didn't.

would think one is flagged because he was on the substance abuse list. while the other wasnt being watched?