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Well, as far as I'm concerned, Trump just shot himself in the foot. Now that right there is a whackjob LOL 1 down.
Poll: Bush, Trump rising nationally for GOP, but both trail Clinton Washington (CNN)With nearly all of the expected 2016 presidential candidates formally in the race, a new CNN/ORC national poll finds two recent entrants to the GOP field on the rise, while Hillary Clinton maintains her position atop the Democratic field, though holding a slightly slimmer lead. Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush and businessman Donald Trump top the list of GOP presidential contenders following their back-to-back campaign launches in mid-June, and are the only two Republican candidates holding double-digit support among Republicans and Republican-leaning independents. For his part, Trump specifically responded to the poll results Wednesday afternoon saying the numbers are "representative of the response we are receiving from all over the country." "I am committed to addressing the issues our country is facing and am confident my business mindset and common sense solutions are resonating with the American people," Trump said in a statement Wednesday afternoon. "Politicians are all talk and no action and the American public is ready for a leader with a proven track record of success." http://www.cnn.com/2015/07/01/politics/donald-trump-poll-hillary-clinton-jeb-bush/
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Trump was indelicate in what he said, but he is right in that we need to get control of our borders. We cannot allow thousands of illegal (and yes, they are, by every definition, illegal) immigrants to just walk into this country every week.
I understand that many businesses want these cheap workers, and so they are excited about continuing to add to their cheap labor force.However, these workers should be documented, and we should know who we are allowing into this country. We could allow a good man, working to support his family .... but we also could allow in a mass murderer. We simply have no idea. We could be allowing drug dealers into the country. We should have some ability to screen those coming into the country. We also should have control over who we offer government benefits to.
We have thousands of people in this country who want jobs, and who are collecting government benefits. Why not give them jobs protecting the border? We could hire and train thousands of new border agents to patrol the border as we add other layers of protection. We could build a fence that would slow people down, at least those who are simply walking into this country on a daily basis. This also would add employment. We should be using every resource at our disposal to guard and protect our borders, so that we know who were are allowing in.
I am amazed at how some frame the argument, that those who want to protect our border hate people. In fact, the opposite is true. We want to make sure that this country is safe, and that those entering this country have access, legally, to everything we want them to have access to. We can collect taxes from them, and these workers would also legally have to be paid what would almost certainly be a higher wage. They would also have access to all protections, health and safety, and so forth. These people also would not have any fear of being thrown out of the country. (though this current administration seems unwilling to do so anyway) We could then make provisions as to how to handle those currently in this country illegally. It should not be done until we have some fairly secure control of the borders though.
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Trump being a forerunner in the GOP shows how dead it will be.
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Hillary being the front runner for the d nominee shows how dumb the D american populace is.
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Hillary being the front runner for the d nominee shows how dumb the D american populace is. Actually with the front runners of both parties being Bush/Clinton, I think it shows just how poor our political process has become.
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Shortly, Bush will be Trumped.
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Shortly, Bush will be Trumped. That will be the end of any hope the GOP has at the White House if that happens. The man simply can't think before he opens his mouth. But then again W was elected twice, so maybe that doesn't matter.
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Scott Walker, Wisconsin Governor, Says He Is Running for President Wisconsin Gov. Scott Walker made his long-expected White House run official Monday morning, tweeting that he will seek the GOP nomination for president. In a video message uploaded to YouTube, Walker said: "America needs new, fresh leadership with big, bold ideas from outside of Washington to actually get things done." Walker is slated to make an announcement speech Monday evening in Waukesha, Wisconsin. The Wisconsin governor is considered a top-tier candidate seeking the GOP nomination, although he enters a crowded Republican field with 14 contenders already in the race. Walker hopes to highlight his record as a conservative governor in a blue-leaning state, where he won three elections in the course of four years, including a victory in a bitter fight with labor unions during his 2012 recall election. Walker's evangelical roots -- his father was a Baptist minister -- may also give him a boost in the early nominating state of Iowa, where he lived for seven years as a child. http://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2016-ele...esident-n390991
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Tell me about it. Hillary is backed by the same corporate bank megastructure that fights to keep everyone in their place.
Sanders is by far and away the better option, but everyone gets freaked out by "socialism?!" when really it's not Nazi socialism. It's just a european form of democratic policies. They're doing alright over there.
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In economic address, Hillary Clinton calls out 'gig' economy Democratic presidential front-runner Hillary Clinton laid out her economic agenda in New York City on Monday. She focused on ways to lift American workers and called out the sharing economy as a potential factor in dampened wage growth. The sharing economy—bolstered by high-flying start-ups including Uber, Airbnb and Lyft—allows individuals to share products and services like offering homes and apartments for rent, or driving passengers to destinations. The small tasks often are brokered through mobile smartphone apps, and the platforms connect freelancers with available short-term gigs. Amid an uneven economic recovery, many American workers are cobbling together a patchwork of jobs. But freelance freedom and flexibility don't come with traditional full-time benefits including health care or retirement savings. "Many Americans are making extra money renting out a spare room, designing a website ... even driving their own car. This on demand or so called 'gig' economy is creating exciting opportunities and unleashing innovation, but it's also raising hard questions about workplace protections and what a good job will look like in the future," Clinton said. She laid out her economic plan during an address at The New School in Manhattan. An estimated 53 million Americans—more than 1 in 3 workers—are freelancers, according to a 2014 report by independent research firm Edelman Berland. The study was commissioned by the Freelancers Union in partnership with Elance-oDesk. Separate data show recent lower-wage job gains outpacing higher-wage job growth, according to the National Employment Law Project. There are now 1.2 million fewer jobs in mid- and higher-wage industries than there were prior to the Great Recession, according to NELP data. In contrast, there are 2.3 million more jobs in lower-wage sectors than before the recession. Rise of the Uber driver While older workers are participating in the sharing economy, the young, tech freelancer is likely to become an important symbol during the presidential election campaign. "In 2008, it was all about 'Joe the Plumber.' In 2016, it will likely be 'Carl the Uber driver,'" said Jeremiah Owyang, analyst and founder of Silicon Valley-based Crowd Companies, which focuses on the collaborative economy. Some workers are suing start-ups including Uber and Lyft to be classified as employees, not independent contractors. Clinton also vowed to ensure workers are being properly paid and protected. "I'll crack down on bosses that exploit employees by misclassifying them as contractors or even steal their wages," she told the crowd. http://www.cnbc.com/2015/07/13/in-economic-address-hillary-clinton-calls-out-gig-economy.html
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Hillary being the front runner for the d nominee shows how dumb the D american populace is. Actually with the front runners of both parties being Bush/Clinton, I think it shows just how poor our political process has become. Jeb Bush is the only hope left for that party. He's not like his brother or Dad, but more of his Grandfather. Intellectual Conservativism is a near dead breed and he might be the last one left in the GOP.
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Shortly, Bush will be Trumped. That will be the end of any hope the GOP has at the White House if that happens. The man simply can't think before he opens his mouth. But then again W was elected twice, so maybe that doesn't matter. Spoken like a good libby soldier, now that you can tell the future, what is IBM stock gonna do next week?
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I'm voting for Ben Carson until he wins or drops out. He's just breathe of fresh air and he makes good sense.
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I'm voting for Ben Carson until he wins or drops out. He's just breathe of fresh air and he makes good sense. You have a cool name. Vote your heart, carry on.
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"...This on demand or so called 'gig' economy is creating exciting opportunities and unleashing innovation, but it's also raising hard questions about workplace protections and what a good job will look like in the future," Clinton said. She's right. It's something that needs to be discussed.
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Yes and I'm sure the next President will discuss it with her. She's a very beatable candidate, but she has the house odds right now. Rubio needs to adopt the Obama '08 model, and stay mum as possible. Barely say anything. Then deliver a landmark speech to your voting base at just the right time. Politics has become image, and image is imagined. The less you put your name on, the better. He's the GOP's best chance, I think.
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Hillary will lose the D nomination to Bernie Sanders... I'm calling that now. Bernie Sanders will be our next President.
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I don't get all the hate toward Hillary. Bruce Jenner goes and has a sex change and everybody loved him/her. Hillary has a sex change and everybody hates her. *scratching my head*
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Hillary will lose the D nomination to Bernie Sanders... I'm calling that now. Bernie Sanders will be our next President. Thanks for the nightmares.  *puke*
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Thanks for the nightmares.  *puke* Nightmare or not OldColdDawg might well be right. Bernie is resonating with voters in a way similar to 2008 Obama. He's very populist (Our cable bills are too darn high! lol) so that plays well into the modern day "what can I get?" voter. Even the more apathetic liberals I know are rallying behind him as a beacon of socialist change. I think the only libs who don't like Bernie right now are the revolutionary socialists because they feel the only way to get true socialism is by overthrowing the govt. I can't help but think that modern politicians (1980 to now) have no one to blame but themselves for why the population seems to be clamoring for socialism. We have turned a blind eye to the middle class in this country. Program after program after program has gimped the middle class to either provide more social programs to the lower class or give tax breaks to the wealthy (or both). You have one side preaching supply side economics and another side preaching you gotta elevate the poor to the middle class (which just makes the middle class poor, since there is no such thing as no poor people). We only deal with extremes in this country and it may well be our downfall.
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Thanks for the nightmares.  *puke* Nightmare or not OldColdDawg might well be right. Bernie is resonating with voters in a way similar to 2008 Obama. He's very populist (Our cable bills are too darn high! lol) so that plays well into the modern day "what can I get?" voter. Even the more apathetic liberals I know are rallying behind him as a beacon of socialist change. I think the only libs who don't like Bernie right now are the revolutionary socialists because they feel the only way to get true socialism is by overthrowing the govt. I can't help but think that modern politicians (1980 to now) have no one to blame but themselves for why the population seems to be clamoring for socialism. We have turned a blind eye to the middle class in this country. Program after program after program has gimped the middle class to either provide more social programs to the lower class or give tax breaks to the wealthy (or both). You have one side preaching supply side economics and another side preaching you gotta elevate the poor to the middle class (which just makes the middle class poor, since there is no such thing as no poor people). We only deal with extremes in this country and it may well be our downfall. I agree 100% with your views onn how the Middle Class is being destroyed as the government imposes forces from above and below. Too bad many people refuse to see it, and when the Middle Class disappears completely, they will wonder why, and probably wind up blaming entirely the wrong people. I have long said that the Middle Class is getting screwed by policies that have their salaries remaining stagnant, as the wages for the lower class increase, along with prices, and the purchasing power of the Middle Class continues to diminish. Sooner or later we will have a 2 class system if we continue on this course, a rich, upper class, and everyone else. Many think that this endless raising of the minimum wage, while Middle Class wages stay stagnant, or even decline, is good for the country. In actuality, it is pressuring the Middle Class into oblivion, as their wages are not increasing at the same rate.
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you failed to address how to the rich's wages are also going up.
next time try not being so one sided.
right now the lower class isn't getting way too much attention, and the same is true for the rich. which is what gage was getting at with extremes in this country.
but it always seem like on this board, we wanna talk about the poor as though their takers, without addressing the rich who are MAKING everybody poorer by shipping jobs overseas.
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Hillary will lose the D nomination to Bernie Sanders... I'm calling that now. Bernie Sanders will be our next President. No way. He's not a mainstream candidate. Hillary will be the President. She has the backing and she's done it before.
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How did Obama beat her? Sanders has more money, polling higher, and more momentum than Obama had at this point during his initial run.
Sanders needs to find a way to show minorities and women how he's truly the better option than corporate Clinton.
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How did Obama beat her? Sanders has more money, polling higher, and more momentum than Obama had at this point during his initial run.
Sanders needs to find a way to show minorities and women how he's truly the better option than corporate Clinton. Patience fella, he will get around to telling them what they want to hear also!
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Also, he hasn't really addressed his foreign policy, which is um, kinda important. Folks will need to know these things before they can take him seriously in 2016. For now, he's fun for some.
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Also, he hasn't really addressed his foreign policy, which is um, kinda important. Folks will need to know these things before they can take him seriously in 2016. For now, he's fun for some.
Really Clem? Obama's foreign policy was that he was going to end the war and that we were going to be nicer to everybody and the world was going to love us for it. Sorry I have less faith in the American voter than you do I guess. This election will come down to whether or not Hillary can recapture the magic of breaking down another barrier by electing a woman President. I honestly don't think the whole election process goes much deeper than that.
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How did Obama beat her? Sanders has more money, polling higher, and more momentum than Obama had at this point during his initial run.
Sanders needs to find a way to show minorities and women how he's truly the better option than corporate Clinton. I'm probably the biggest fan of Sanders, but he's but winning. I hope you're as eager to support him when he's running the green party.
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Also, he hasn't really addressed his foreign policy, which is um, kinda important. Folks will need to know these things before they can take him seriously in 2016. For now, he's fun for some.
Really Clem? Obama's foreign policy was that he was going to end the war and that we were going to be nicer to everybody and the world was going to love us for it. Sorry I have less faith in the American voter than you do I guess. This election will come down to whether or not Hillary can recapture the magic of breaking down another barrier by electing a woman President. I honestly don't think the whole election process goes much deeper than that. Obama was on the senate committee on foreign relations. He is a lot more well versed than either of his opponents.
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Also, he hasn't really addressed his foreign policy, which is um, kinda important. Folks will need to know these things before they can take him seriously in 2016. For now, he's fun for some.
Really Clem? Obama's foreign policy was that he was going to end the war and that we were going to be nicer to everybody and the world was going to love us for it. Sorry I have less faith in the American voter than you do I guess. This election will come down to whether or not Hillary can recapture the magic of breaking down another barrier by electing a woman President. I honestly don't think the whole election process goes much deeper than that. Obama was on the senate committee on foreign relations. He is a lot more well versed than either of his opponents. I'm not talking at all about how much he knew, I'm talking about the message he sold...
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All he needs to do is point to his voting record, and committee chairs in the senate. He's been head of the congressional committee regarding the VA. He gets the ugliness of war, and he's one of the few who voted against the Iraq war.
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Presidential Hopefuls......I'm just hoping we get a Presidential candidate worth voting for.  Look no further than Bernie Sanders. Pro guns, pro privacy, and anti-austerity economics.
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His stance on guns is one of the more pragmatic stances of all the liberal candidates.
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Presidential Hopefuls......I'm just hoping we get a Presidential candidate worth voting for.  Look no further than Bernie Sanders. Pro guns, pro privacy, and anti-austerity economics. Hmm, Bernie Sanders, don't like the name.... Makes me think of Bert and Ernie... Disclaimer: My reply is to be taken as humor. It demonstrates the amount of thought the majority of voters put into their voting preferences.
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Nightmare or not OldColdDawg might well be right. Bernie is resonating with voters in a way similar to 2008 Obama. He's very populist (Our cable bills are too darn high! lol) so that plays well into the modern day "what can I get?" voter.
I wonder what this lady thinks of Obama these days. Link
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you failed to address how to the rich's wages are also going up.
next time try not being so one sided.
right now the lower class isn't getting way too much attention, and the same is true for the rich. which is what gage was getting at with extremes in this country.
but it always seem like on this board, we wanna talk about the poor as though their takers, without addressing the rich who are MAKING everybody poorer by shipping jobs overseas.
The rich are always going to get richer. They have more montey to invest, and more money to risk. I don't know that tjeir "wages" are going up, but their financial values have definitely increased dramatically lately. Face it, at the bottom of the last market crash, when everyone else was panic selling, they were buying in bulk. The government then (surprise, surprise) dumped billions into the markets, and the rich got even richer than they otherwise would have. What a shocker. Anyway, I thought that everyone realized that the rich are getting richer, and it doesn't matter of the Congress or Presidential offices say R or D, they are going to help the rich. However, what is new is that they are so actively trying to destroy the middle class. The lower class is gaining on the middle class farm far faster than the upper class is pulling away from everyone.
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Also, he hasn't really addressed his foreign policy, which is um, kinda important. Folks will need to know these things before they can take him seriously in 2016. For now, he's fun for some.
Really Clem? Obama's foreign policy was that he was going to end the war and that we were going to be nicer to everybody and the world was going to love us for it. Sorry I have less faith in the American voter than you do I guess. This election will come down to whether or not Hillary can recapture the magic of breaking down another barrier by electing a woman President. I honestly don't think the whole election process goes much deeper than that. Obama was on the senate committee on foreign relations. He is a lot more well versed than either of his opponents. He was on that committee in the 110th Congress. IIRC, that Congress took office in January of 2007, and less than 2 years later, he was running for office. He may have gained some insight, but he wasn't exactly a veteran of the Senate, who was well versed in things over a long career. Obama was probably the worst porepared President we have had in decades. (and I lived through Jimmy Carter, so that really says something)
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