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Why don't you ever post articles about gang violence?


Barely anyone understands gang violence, and any time any attempt is brought up to discuss it we devolve into "IF THEY JUST HAD THESE BOOTSTRAPS!". I know you shared the story of your wife, but your wife is an extraordinary individual who escaped the cycle. This isn't the norm, unfortunately.

Somewhere your wife found a determined spirit to escape an awful situation. A majority of gang members haven't had the opportunity to find the drive that your wife found.

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Why not post articles about hate crimes committed by minorities?


No one is stopping you.

Certain elements of both sides are at fault, but we must ask how did this problem even start? Trace to what causes this violence, but apparently looking at the past is the wrong answer for you.

We must acknowledge past wrongs in order to move forward. People argue minorities need to work twice as hard to get ahead in the world; I'll take it a step forward and say that we need to work as twice as hard to try and undo the wrongs of idiotic Americans.

Why are you always coming in trying to deflect off of cops? The same questions can be asked of you.

I'll leave with a quote from Dr. King on all this madness:

"Sometimes it’s easy to turn a blind eye to injustices when they have become part of the society we live in."

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so racist i married a woman from the race i hate the most!! just to stick it to the man!!

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if you wanted to 'stick it to the man,' you wouldn't have married a girl.

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Well, he does have the rainbow thing going on in his avatar. wink


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No one is stopping you.

Certain elements of both sides are at fault, but we must ask how did this problem even start? Trace to what causes this violence, but apparently looking at the past is the wrong answer for you.


You are being nicer about it, but you aren't getting my point, either. I am not looking to go off on minorities and their crimes.

My point is that there are a handful of posters on here who relish in beating down other groups. That type of thinking is just as bad as those who have beat their group down over time.

I have never said we should ignore events, but it is clear that many people spend more time dwelling on the negative events than working towards solutions to solve problems.

Recognizing injustices is needed. Using those misdeeds as a platform to voice one's own hate and to further inflame the fire is not going to solve anything.

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Originally Posted By: CHSDawg
Originally Posted By: Lemmys_Wart
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However somebody would be complaining if this guy would have taken off after he started his car and pulled his door closed shut and during the police chase he plowed into another car killing a family.


Exactly.

I wonder, if the cop was black and the motorist was white in this instance, would people still be making this out as a racial thing? What's the honest answer?


Well let's examine the case where that happened and we'll discuss it.

Are you guys really defending a guy shooting another guy at a traffic stop for expired tags because of a hypothetical?


"Well let's examine the case where that happened and we'll discuss it."

I asked if it would be considered a racial thing if THIS instance had the skin colors reversed, with all of the other facts remaining the same. An answer can't be produced for that question?

"Are you guys really defending a guy shooting another guy at a traffic stop for expired tags because of a hypothetical?"

The guy had expired tags, didn't have a driver's license, couldn't provide registration for the car, was acting suspicious, was suspected of being drunk, and put the car into gear to speed off while the cop was leaning into the car. Let's not pretend the driver was an innocent bystander as a cop decided to flip out. Was shooting the guy the right decision? Maybe not, I'm not about to say I would or wouldn't have done the same as the cop in that situation and with that small of a time frame to make a decision. Does the fact that the cop was white and the driver was black make it a racial issue? No.


If everything besides skin color was the same then this wouldn't have happened. He wasn't leaning on the vehicle, he was opening the car door illegally. The Hamilton County Prosecutor said the cop was in the wrong completely.


"If everything besides skin color was the same then this wouldn't have happened."

What are you basing that assumption on?

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if you close your eyes and pretend the bad stuff isn't there, then it isn't there!!

Why not, it works for all of the good that people do.


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