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40, right now that silent majority is fractured. I will give you that a lot of it is there... but it's fairly dormant. They don't have anybody to rally behind, they lack leadership.

Starting in about the mid 90s, Fox News had a ton of influence. Hannity, Limbaugh, Levin, O'Reilly, Coulter, Van Sustern... all of them were on the same page, supporting the same message and touting the same candidates. Now they can't agree... they are all over the map, dividing allegiances of their listeners and in a lot of cases, bashing the republican party..

I still hold out hope that somebody will emerge from the republican party with a positive message about the future, with a focus on attacking the real issues that I care about, somebody that I can really get behind.. it wasn't McCain and it wasn't Romney, and I'm honestly not sure if that person exists in this gaggle of candidates either... pretty sure it's not Trump though.

Trump is intriguing because he's controversial, he's playing by a different playbook than everybody else who is playing politics. There is something admirable about a guy willing to speak his mind and deal with the consequences... on the other hand, my uncle drinks a lot, he speaks his mind and offends people... I wouldn't vote for him for President.

And the last thing I want is the Rs running everything... that's a recipe for disaster..

The Silent Majority did not turn out for the RINO McCain.

The Silent Majority did not turn out for the Mormon.

They sit in silent anticipation of voting for the Republican,
who like cream, will soon rise to the top.

Then and only then will they rise up from their quiet existence, come out of the shadows to elect the chosen one, all the while driving their enemies before them to the cliffs of Justice.

Boy you really love to quote that movie don't you?

The only quote that comes to my mind after reading that is "One toke over the line...".

Out of curiosity, would you apply this same standard and forgiveness to Trump seeing as he's doing the same thing essentially?

I won't go in to my belief about the BLM being fraudulent, I've covered that elsewhere and probably will in a more relevant thread, but the ironic thing is that the most recent rally they literally pushed him aside was a rally he was invited to speak at and talk about his plans for Social Security and Medicaid reform. I say ironic, because he was slated to give a speech later that same day about racial issues.

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When you stop spewing rhetoric could you just let me know if you want to buy me a jersey or not? lmbo

My problems with Trump arise more from him treating other candidates and people with such disrespect. I do have a problem with the BLM people calling Seattle's liberal group racist because they didn't want to be interrupted by the movement. They aren't too comparable imho.

Where are they now? Anybody else seen a double talking two faced troll with a bad comb-over lately?

40 is that you???? Nope... crickets. lmbo

I already answered you on the previous page.

Actually, you just rambled on about Nixon's Silent Majority and being afraid of the dark. At no point did you accept or decline his wager.

If the majority was conservatives, then why does the GOP gerrymander so much?

Tomorrow hopes we have learned something from yesterday.
-John Wayne

J/C .....

Kasich picks up big New Hampshire endorsement, and moves into 3rd place in new Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald survey, New Hampshire poll.

John Kasich's presidential bid scores endorsement from key New Hampshire politico Tom Rath | cleveland.com
http://www.cleveland.com/open/index.ssf/2015/08/john_kasichs_presidential_bid.html#incart_m-rpt-1

CLEVELAND, Ohio -- John Kasich is gaining momentum in the first-in-the-nation primary state that holds the key to his White House bid.

The Ohio governor's presidential campaign said late Tuesday that Kasich has scored an endorsement from Tom Rath, a top Republican strategist in New Hampshire.

Rath has chosen Kasich from a field that also includes former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush, whose brother, George W., counted Rath as an adviser during the 2000 election.

"Our country needs Gov. Kasich," said Rath, who will serve as a senior national adviser and co-chair the New Hampshire campaign. "He has a proven track record of balancing the federal budget, reforming our military and turning around one of our nation's largest states. Beyond his accomplishments, Gov. Kasich governs in a way that includes everyone. He is sending our country the message that everyone deserves a chance, everyone deserves a voice, and he will help give it to them. That's a powerful message in New Hampshire and the right one for our nation."

Rath, a former New Hampshire attorney general and past national GOP committeeman, also has advised the presidential campaigns of 2012 nominee Mitt Romney and past GOP hopefuls Lamar Alexander, Bob Dole and Howard Baker.

He's been among the most-quoted Republican operatives in the state as reporters in Ohio and across the country try to assess the crowded race.

"We're thrilled to have Tom join our team," said John E. Sununu, a former U.S. senator who is chairing Kasich's New Hampshire campaign. "His expertise nationally and in New Hampshire will help our campaign build on the momentum we've established in New Hampshire and after the first debate. It's an honor to be working with Tom on behalf of Gov. Kasich. He and other outstanding leaders will help guide us in the months ahead in New Hampshire and nationally."

Rath's endorsement came Tuesday as Kasich campaigned in New Hampshire and as a new poll there showed him in stronger position. The Franklin Pierce University/Boston Herald survey found Kasich with 12 percent of the GOP vote. Only real estate Donald Trump (18 percent) and Bush (13 percent) ranked higher.

The surge in New Hampshire is on the heels of Kasich's official campaign launch last month and more than $3 million worth television airtime bought by New Day for America, a super political action committee that is promoting the governor.

Kasich and his allies are focusing on New Hampshire because of its compact size and independent politics. They believe a big splash in the first primary will catapult him in the race for the nomination, to be awarded next summer at the Republican National Convention on Kasich's home-state turf in Cleveland.

Regardless of who you like, do you really expect any of these candidates to do anything they say they are going to do? If so why?

Oh great now everybody knows I am your Uncle.

hmmm double talking two faced troll with a bad comb-over now just where have I seen that before..... Oh yea

The face of evil...

Same reasons the Dems did before them? And the GOP before them? and the Dems before them?.. so on and so forth.

The face of common sense. at least compared to the circus of people running in the GOP.

I don't know for sure who I want as the next president, but I can name three people I don't want:

Hillary Clinton
Joe Biden
Donald Trump

my best candidates right at the moment are probably (in no particular order)

Rubio

Kasich (I really didn't like him at first, but damn, he did a good job in Ohio)

Sanders (some of the things I've heard attributed to him are intriguing, I'd like to know more)

You and I have had intelligent debate and disagreement before, so I know you won't take major offense to anything I would say, but it's people with that mindset that scare the Hell outta me. Saying Clinton has common sense.

Scary...

it is scary.

especially when you compare her to the circus

Tomorrow hopes LOL ...So sad for Tomorrow since the GOP hasn't learned anything for thousands of yesterdays?

Skeered about losing again...

She can't even handle checking her email without risking the security of the nation, and you suggest there's common sense present and suggest/hint she's a God compared to other GOP candidates?

Give me a dime bag of your stuff Swish... we can burn and go over key points of the Alinsky Model

yep, she can't check her emails like a normal person.

Christie can't eat food like a normal person. also, his state is tanking. and he's all for the NSA all up in your stuff, BTW.

Walker just defunded UW, then turned around and funded a new Bucks Arena. oh yea, his state is tanking.

Bush defends common core.

Rand Paul sold out.

Hucakbee, Perry, Gilmore, Jindal.....lol.

Lindsey Graham. you realize this guy would reinstitute the draft if he could right? as a matter of fact, some of us would be permanently relocating to the middle east, since he clearly plans on having the military live there.

Fiorina or whatever her name is, Queen of outsourcing jobs. also, got fired.

Cruz...10 bucks says he will shut down the government if they closed down the congressional cafeteria. dude is just an odd ball.

Trump....MR Big corporation himself....come on man. you can probably count on one hand the women, both right and left, who would even consider voting for this guy. also, the hispanics. good luck with that.

Which leaves Carson and Kasich.

LB, those two guys are really good candidates. which is why you and i both know they won't be winning the ticket.

Ben Carson thinks that homosexuality is a choice, that the current U.S. resembles Nazi Germany, that Obamacare is the "worst thing to happen to the U.S. since slavery", that Obama is a "sociopath" who may or may not suspend elections in 2016 and grant himself a third term, and that wounded soldiers receiving improper medical care is a message from God that we need to remove all government participation in health care. What makes you feel that he's a good candidate? He appears to me to be little more than a guy angling for a radio show and a speaking fee.

Sad part is most the GOP candidates, aside from Cruz (I'm not sure how to point my finger in terms of him YET) you ripped, I rip too.

The grass isn't greener on the other side though. Granted I'm not overly educated on the Democratic candidates, but your front runner is scary to me. Country will plunge more into self destruct mode while we continue to alienate our allies and weaken ourself on the global stage.

Matter of opinion though.

cause everything you just named, is still slightly better than the crap coming out of the others mouths.

definitely.

but dude, what is up with this alienate our allies stuff?

who? Israel? they'll complain no matter what we do. they cry wolf a lot.

the iranian deal, with ALL those countries involved? don't seem like much alienating to me.

unless you're talking about the country living off uncle sam's tit, Israel, then sure.

“Most people do not listen with the intent to understand; they listen with the intent to reply.”
– Stephen Covey

Outside of Trump, Carson may be the worst when it comes to "shock value" commentary. He sounds like Alex Jones. Which is odd, because it wasn't that many years ago that he came across as fairly sensible. Hence, why I think his candidacy is an attempt to up his speaking fees and get a radio/TV deal.

Wow. That is really so true. I know that I fall into that far too often myself.

I am going save that quote, just so I can remember to consider that when I have a conversation.

That'll be $5 Bucks!

OK .......... I'll have to look up Mr.Covey's address so I can send him a check though .......

The Iran deal, let's not even get into that joke...

But off the top of my head, we've neglected the Jordans and the Kurds who've asked for help and whom could aide greatly in the elimination of the ISIS threat. Some of these weak allies (but allies) just gave up and went to China after years of neglect from Obama. We won't even share intelligence with the Egyptians.

To me, that's alienating them.

This one is free for you YTown...

“Yesterday is history, tomorrow is a mystery, today is a gift of God, which is why we call it the present.”
-Bil Keane

at some point, we have to leave the colossal failure which is the war in the middle east.

they've been fighting since before the US was a twinkle in anybody's eyes. We aren't going to fix anything out there.

The kurds is a tricky situation seeing as though their Enemy is a NATO and UN country, Turkey, for which we have patriot missiles set up at.

That's a lose/lose situation if we back either or.

come on man, there's no such thing as eliminating ISIS. another one will just pop up. and other. and other.

On the kurds: i support them having their own country.

As a Turkish person, they got they asses whooped in the wars in 16th century which is why they don't have a country in the first place. they would've if a treaty would've been ratified. then they had another shot post WW1 or 2, one of those.

but somebody had to lose.

As an american, it was nice to go to Erbil and see them doing so well. awesome. but we can't take care of everybody.

We can't neglect the middle east as the middle east is why we are threatened here at home.

At some point, if we did that, we'd be slitting our own wrists and putting American lives at risk all in synchronization. It's a tough matter, that of which our current president is incapable of dealing with.