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Ryan Mallett vs. Brian Hoyer: Both quarterbacks impressive in first practice against Redskins

osted on August 6, 2015 | By John McClain

RICHMOND, Va. — After a two-hour, 40-minute practice against the Washington Redskins, coach Bill O’Brien seemed to be feeling better about his quarterbacks.

O’Brien watched Ryan Mallett and Brian Hoyer practice against the Redskins’ defense at their Bon Secours training camp, where they took turns throwing to receivers on just about every route possible.

O’Brien could make a decision on his starter after three practices against Washington, or he may wait until after the first preseason game against San Francisco.

“Overall, their play was fairly consistent with all the different guys they were working with,” O’Brien said. “They were going against a new defense and not really knowing what to expect from that defense.

“We didn’t have a scouting report on the Redskins. We just came out and practiced, which is what we should do, and I thought both guys handled it well.”

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Mallett started strong by connecting on his first 15 passes before the 16th was dropped by DeAndre Hopkins.

Mallett threw bullets to receivers running sideline routes, over the middle and post patterns.

“You kind of see where you are as a team and as an offense,” Mallett said. “We have to get better. There are some things we did well and some things we didn’t do well.

“They had multiple looks. They’re a good defense. We had some things schemed just from our base (offense). We had some success.”

Like O’Brien and Hoyer, Mallett is a fan of joint practices, even when tempers boil over, and there’s the usual pushing and shoving going on.
“We’re not going to back down from anybody,” Mallett said. “We’re going to have each other’s backs, so it was good to see that intensity and that fire in us.

“It’s good not to go against our guys every day until the first preseason game, so getting to see other guys in different looks and different variations of defenses is good for us.”

Hoyer was impressive, too. His best completion was a perfectly thrown pass to Hopkins on a fade route into the corner of the end zone. Hopkins made an outstanding catch and kept both feet in bounds with two Redskins draped all over him.

“I thought it was a good day,” Hoyer said. “You try to make it perfect, but after you watch the film, you wish you had one or two of those back.

“I think we made some big plays in the pass game, and we should just keep building on it.”

Hoyer is developing a good relationship with his receivers.

“The good thing is they’re rotating all those receivers,” he said. “I don’t know if you guys see, but we’re working with these guys after practice every day, too. So even though you might not throw to one guy during practice, you might get him after practice.”

Working with his receivers against the Redskins should be beneficial.

“If anything it’s a heightened awareness because when you go against your own defense, you kind of see the same thing over and over, so you’re accustomed to seeing what that defense is,” Hoyer said. “You come in here not really knowing what they’re going to play.

“You just remember your rules, remember your assignment, and let everything play out, and, hopefully, react the right way.”

The Texans and Redskins have two more practices together before preparing for their preseason openers next week.
“I think we can get a lot out of this, and you just hope you come out healthy,” Hoyer said.

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Oh no!

I'm taking cover

That's stirring the pot...

I think this journalist and Kevin Jones went to the same online school of journalism.

mac: Vambo, while perhaps like me, a relatively recent poster on this board, has been a frequent poster on the old Browns board. I don't believe he is trashing anyone, rather opening a spot for the Hoyer "discussion", taking it out of the Manziel thread...

Show me where I trashed Hoyer or any other player in this thread?

Or could the TRUE reason be that I gave the posters who wanted to talk about Hoyer a place to do it without cluttering up others threads and having posters complain of Hoyer in a JM or Pet or McCown threads.

Hoyer was what he was but sifting through Hoyer posts was getting confusing so now here is a place who ever wants can discuss Hoyer without annoying others.

Neither do I. Thank them for their contribution, and move on. They're gone for whatever reason...next up!

Such as poster calling players Johny Rehab, TEXT and Flipper...Oh wait they are kicking the dogcrap out of current players my bad.

How about that Hoyer?

I don't find the name-calling amusing either. I think it is childish and trying to draw attention to oneself...

I wish Brian Hoyer well.. I want him to be successful except when playing the Browns...

Gee, never saw that coming.

who cares..i dont.

Vers, you implore people to look at both sides.

You implore people not to be hypocrites.

You blast people who blast a certain group of posters while not blasting other groups that fit in with their narratives.

Mac blasted a group of posters who call ex-players names. He did not blast BTTB or superbrown for calling current players/regimes names because they fit in with his narrative.

He committed all the crimes you vehemenently despise. Yet you go after the poster who called him on it. Weird.

John McClain

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He's horrible.

McClain is the guy who said Clowney is the type to miss practice if he got shampoo in his eye.

That's pretty much it.

I think some of the bashing is a knee jerk reaction to some posters who continually tout players that leave as pro bowl quality when we all know they, ( for the most part) are not... in defense of the team's decision the failings of said players are listed and then it becomes the proverbial pissing match between posters where statements are made by both sides that are ... eh... over embellished lets' say.

I think most, when removing that argumentative narrative, would do just that... thanks for the work, good luck except when you are lined up against us.

Is this a pro McClain comment or an anti-McClain comment?

You could say a lot of those things about Grossi LOL

Not really comparing, just sayin

It was just to point out he's not all biscuits and gravy when covering his own team. And I thought it was kind of funny.

But this thread to me definitely feels like driving past the ex-girlfriend's house. You know you shouldn't do it before you even turn down the street but you click on the thread anyways.

Hoyer wasn't about to help JM take his starting spot, Hoyer didn't come off as a team guy reminded me of Braylon Edwards

So what your saying is the standard for what qualifies as a "team guy" actually has nothing to do with the team, just whether or not someone bought in to the JFF hype and try to become his best friend....

It must be, because the other 51 players on the actual team named the 'Cleveland Browns' had nothing but respect for Hoyer, even when he was in his death spiral.

Let me ask you guys who think Hoyer was a bad teammate: Is Alex Mack a crappy teammate because he's not making it a point to groom Erving to take his place?

Didn't say he was a crappy team mate those are your words, I said when it came to training JM he was not a "team guy".

Alex Macks job 1A is to make sure Alex Mack is the best OL he can be, his job 1B is making sure the OL unit is as good as it can be.. part of that is helping the other cogs on that OL when/where he can.

He is not a coach, it is not his job to go out of his way to coach people, but when he can help make somebody better, then yes, if he is intentionally avoiding doing that for fear of losing his job, then he would be a bad teammate..

Bit of a thread hijack alert.

You know who reminds me of Braylon Edwards - at least a poor man's Braylon Edwards? Vince. Mayle.

I'll have to look him up I am not familiar with him.

I see your point but it was during his slide he was doing the "I got the team this far" not we as a team have gotten this far together.

I wish Mallett was in our camp.

I really feel the same way. Good luck to Hoyer any game we are not playing him.

I DO boo players whose play I hated when here who left, but try not to trash decent ones who helped us. No slack for them that cut our throats.

Why does Mayle remind you of Brayin'? Don't know the kid or his game yet.

Not one person challenges this crap. Not one.

Oh, and Rish........to answer your earlier question: it's because I know Vambo from the other board. I knew exactly what his intent was as soon as I saw that he posted this. However, I do get what you are saying and you made a good point.

Yep, I was thinking the same thing when I watched him the other day. I mentioned his body language in another thread. The body language thing is also similar to what we saw from Gordon last year. I believe I used the word "entitled" when I referred to him.

Apparently Mayle made a really difficult diving catch in practice today. They also say he has a hard time holding onto the routine ones.

Braylon. Edwards.

If we see the same thing in the preseason games and guys like Lenz are balling and catching everything, I fully expect to see Mayle on the practice squad. I don't think he should make the 53 if that's what we see.

I agree, but he was drafted by Farmer fairly high.

If you are correct in your assumption, then it will be interesting to see if there is any disconnect between Farmer and Pettine...