DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Ryan Mallett vs. Brian Hoyer: Both quarterbacks impressive in first practice against Redskins

Well at least no one could challenge your CRAP because there no, zero, not one bit of football to it. It's just a cowardly way to get others to pick on a poster that doesn't share in your OPINION.

Just more of your PATHETIC personal attacks!

Well, I think it is fairly evident that there were problems last year because of how Farmer and other FO guys interfered w/personnel decisions. That is why they are going out of their way to present a united front this year.

But really.........it's nothing new. It happens all over the league. It has happened for decades. No GM wants to see his top picks lose playing time or get cut. It makes them look bad. This situation isn't unique to Farmer. It's been this way for many years w/most teams. Off the top of my head, I can only think of a couple of teams that don't do the very same thing.

I can't think of anything you could have said that would have been more of a disappointment to me.

I don't think it is disappointing, but it sure is revealing.

what he always did. why you cannot take any thing he say as far as talent.......

Any WR "Text" drafts will be high since he usually doesn't draft any.
His actual disdain for the position repulses me.

It could get interesting to see if Pett is viewed as having gained more power if he puts Mayle on the practice squad or if he doesn't will he be viewed as kowtowing to Farmer's wishes.... when in fact it may be a typical personnel decision based on what the coaching staff sees as the best bet to succeed.

Will make for some interesting reading...

As far as I can tell, Mayle dropped a coupe of passes on the 1st day of camp, his 1st time out after having a cast removed from his hand, after having a screw inserted ...... and I haven't heard anything since about drops.

He was out while he was still not supposed to be catching the ball, and was practicing running routes. He went after the ball with one hand when the QB forgot and let one fly in his direction, even though he wasn't supposed to do so.

Mayle also has limited experience as a receiver as of right now. Bowe has evidently taken Mayle under his wing, so that is nice to see.

I haven't seen any reports of drops galore, except for the 1st day, when he had just had the case removed. Does soemone have other reports?

Agreed Vers. Its sort of sad actually not a FACT to be found. I pretty much am so SAD about the course this board has taken that its likely I won't spend much time here any more. That probably won't bother most but I'm not going to spend my time refuting fabrications enough is enough. It's to bad to cause it doesn't have to be that way and shouldn't be that way. Integrity and honesty are dead.

Simply nonsense...

Just so everyone is clear. Mayle had a history of drops long before he ever having a cast on his hand. It's not like this is a recent problem.

There have been a lot of tweets about Mayle dropping balls in camp.

j/c

I just love a good Mallett/Hoyer discussion.....

.....with Mayle thrown in for good measure.

And he has also only been a receiver for a couple of years. He is very raw.

Sounds more like Greg Little than Braylon Edwards if you ask me.

I guess I'm just not understanding why everyone on the team and FO was supposed to bend over backward for Johnny Manziel? And bending over for the kid is exactly what it is when you want a guy who is trying to focus on being the starting QB to take away from that prep time for a kid who took nothing about his job seriously.

Ok, so why should that be different for Hoyer? Where is the evidence that Hoyer intentionally avoided Manziel? So far there is none.

Did Hoyer tell him the wrong time to report for practice?
Did Hoyer rip out pages from Johhny's playbook?

No evidence that Hoyer avoided helping Manziel out out of 'fear'. But there is PLENTY of evidence out there that shows just how poor of a 'team guy' Manziel was and how much of a waste of time he was. Week 15 Manziel starts, bombs horribly, and the reports were how he didn't prepare and take his role seriously. I don't recall a single report that said "Manziel bombs in first NFL start because Hoyer didn't help him".

I think Mallett has all the tools to be a stud. I was all for picking him up when his contract with the Pats ran out. If I'm the Texans, I play Mallett...he's the future. They're not in a contending position and Mallett gives them an equal chance to win as Hoyer...possibly greater.

Hoyer is a decent QB but he's in the classic Holcomb/Hostetler/Frerotte mold...great back-up QB but a marginal starter. I was hoping for his success here but when he went on that streak of horrible-ness and then just kept spouting his overall record like it was all that impressive, I soured on him pretty quick.

Hope he has a long and great career though.

Ugh .. there is damnation by false praise.... but in all honestly I really liked Little... I became very disappointed in the end result, but I was really pulling for him...

Nice fishing for piling on post not one bit of FOOTBALL content to it just complaining that others don't post the way you want them to.

Hoyer is gone! Go BROWNS!

He plays like BE. Catches the ball with his body, but athletically gifted.

LMAO------you are so transparent. You start a Hoyer thread and then say "Hoyer is gone!"

Rish.........you see what I mean, now?

I hate to speak for Memphis, but I don't believe he was praising Mayle.

I could be wrong, but I think he might have been comparing guys who have really good physical talent but have issues w/dropping the ball and it's hard to "learn" how to catch if you have bad hands.

That's an open-minded post. Perhaps I had the wrong idea about you. Interesting.

Why do you insist on trying to pull Rish and others into your petty thought process, misery loves company? Until you and BTTB posted all others were football related and then you two post personal attacks to try to take over the thread such cowardly acts on your parts grow up.

Simple. To expose you for who you really are.

Must happen to you all the time!

You know nothing about me your pompous attitude is hilarious

It is so sad that you feel the need to resort to pathetic tactics to try to make yourself feel important. I would expect this at a grade school but coming from a presumably full grown person.

hence the term damning with false praise...

Winners and losers from second week of camp

Moving down


Everyone is losing in Buffalo, while it appears Brian Hoyer and Ryan Mallett are treading water in Houston. The problem for the Texans quarterbacks is that they now will have to carry an offense without Arian Foster for much of the season.

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simply knowing the guy. people may think i am putting him down but its the way it is with him. to be truthful i think you are pretty much the same way.

Let's not get personal...

personal? naw just truthful.

Brian who?

anytime.

Just curious but has anyone been fo.llowing the Hoyer/Mallet battle? I havent really read anything about either actually pulling ahead.

There's a poll on their Fan Message Board and almost 70% of the posters (who voted) favor Mallett. But Coach O'Brien says they are "even".

People are too busy getting in peeing contests to actually follow that.

The coach said that they're "even," but I have to believe that Mallett is pulling ahead. I feel like he may get the edge because he's a little younger and still possesses a decent amount of unknown factor as opposed to Hoyer. So if they're "even," I think the verdict goes to Mallett.