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And already he's making a comment that puts Quinn above Frye.
Who cares?
What's Frye gonna do? Cry about it? Paint a picture? No one with a last name other than Frye is putting Frye on par with Quinn in regards to skill sets. It's not an insult...it's a statement of fact: on paper, Brady Quinn is a hell of a lot better than Charlie Frye.
I have other things to worry about in regards to Edwards besides him doing (what I agree is) the right thing and sparing his teammate's feelings.
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While you want a player catchin 100 balls for 1000 yards i want a team that can win 10 games...or a team that can at least beleive it can win 10 games....that starts with players beliving they can....you cannot deny the fact that BE is a gifted player at WR and can do good things(can being the key word...will he? we shall see) i always think the player should do his talking by playing and doing the right things....but you can't hate on BE for being different.......i don't think he puts his foot in the mouth everytime he talks...most of the time it's just brutal honesty..if you can't handle it...then too bad
Throwing a tantrum on the sideline isb't being "different" or a "leader". it's being a spoiled brat.A basd example. A poor sport.
Too bad?
I'll tell you what's "too bad". When Quinn takes charge of this team. He'll tell Braylon to shut-up and do his job ON the field and QUINN will be the [b/leader. Braylon is just a loud mouth WR.
He's NOT the "leader of this team". To be a "leader" takes a LOT of "qualities" Braylon has NEVER shown. If you want to make some spoiled brat your Savior,have at it. But once Quinn takes over the helm,Leon will have to shut-up and produce,or HE'LL be the odd man out. Thank God somebody will shut him up and call his ass on the carpet. Instead of kissing it for being THE disruptive force on this team like some of you do.
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Eotab...I could not have said it beter myself. I think many like to bash BE just for the sake of complaining. Honestly, most have expected too much out of him behind such an anemic offense. :
Expecting him to shut-up and do his job?
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It doesn't take a rocket scientrist to figure it out. So the third grade school yard "prove it"? Pretty weak........
Nah,a guy throwing his teams players and coaches under the bus? No problem in the locker room.
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Eotab...I could not have said it beter myself. I think many like to bash BE just for the sake of complaining. Honestly, most have expected too much out of him behind such an anemic offense. :
Expecting him to shut-up and do his job?
I showed you that if he caught EVERY pass thrown to him he'd have had exactly 1000 yards. Your gripe about him not doing his job was not getting 1000 yards. I showed that everyone (Wayne, Holt - you know - 2 of the best WR in the game) drop passes so tere was no way he would get 1000 yds. He did his job. The dropped passes magnified in our offense because it was crap. You people are whining just to whine. You saw a guy "throwing a tantrum on the sidelines" I saw a guy pissed off and tired of losing. You'd have a point if his tantrum was "throw me the ball Charlie, look only my way" but it wasn't now was it? He was pissed because the TEAM was LOSING. I for one, wish we had more players like him - pissed about losing.
You say he threw people under the bus. Who? Carthon? What O player didn't complain about Carthon? They all hated him. Who else did he throw under the bus? The o-line? YEah, takes a rocket scientist to figure out they are the problem of the O.
Peyton Manning has been seen tearing his line in half after a sack (a whole 14 last year) and called Vanderjact an "idiot kicker" to the media. So why is it okay for Manning to throw his players under the bus? What's the difference?
By the way, I said "prove it" because WITHOUT A LINK it's NOT a fact to make a statement like that. I have NEVER heard any rumblings of him being a locker room cancer, not one. People on here make it up so they can continue to hate the Browns.
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Expecting him to shut-up and do his job?
Yep,I'm beginning to think that's just too much to expect
When they huddle up, put Big Joe next to him. If he starts to yap have Joe put the squeeze on him 
Seriously though, when I heard that BE and KW were lobbying Charlie in the huddle I just shuddered. You're QB CAN NOT let that kind of crap happen. To me that was the biggest indictment on Fry. Once he started losing the huddle he was done. Period.
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. What he is doing, however, is creating division in the locker room, which doesn' thelp winning.
Prove it.
Well by most posts in this thread the proof would be that Braylon is speaking a winning attitude and shouldn't and since we haven't heard the same from the other 21 starters we should assume they don't have a winning attitude, so Braylon is alone on the victory island, and that my friend is division. 
He should join the chorus of depressed losers, and we should just accept our fate that the team sucks and will suck forever because winning mentality will not be allowed, it makes you cocky and self centered. 
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Throwing a tantrum on the sideline isb't being "different" or a "leader".
 maybe you forgot whta hell he was going off about....he was pointing out fryes jersey to the O linemen and telling them how they aren't doing their job and protecting the QB....should he have done it on the sidelines during the game like that? probably not...but that was his 2nd year...he is young..he is hot headed...he made a mistake..it's not end of the world...ever heard of second chances? let me guess you are Mr. Perfect
I don't care who the F points out lazy ppl on our team that aren't doing their job...but that is what he did...and it's about damn time someone is held responsible....he tells it like it is...you just don't like that...then thats your choice
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What good IS "talk" Florida? None! Just free hot air. Ricky Williams talks. "It won't happen again." How much good is that "talk". Men are measured by their "deeds" not their talk. Well,accept here.
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Seriously though, when I heard that BE and KW were lobbying Charlie in the huddle I just shuddered. You're QB CAN NOT let that kind of crap happen. To me that was the biggest indictment on Fry. Once he started losing the huddle he was done. Period.
Yeah, if there's anything I hold against Braylon (and K2 for that matter), it's this. Not some meaningless radio interview. Badgering your QB in the huddle, regardless of the play call, is inexcusable. I can understand that they may not have liked Mo and his playcalling (who did?) but you don't change the play or try to convince the QB to get the ball to you when he's trying to take control of the huddle and get the play in. No wonder we had so many problems last year. Charlie's inability to take control and his receiver's ability to presuade him during the huddle is an indictment on all of them. I sure hope they all got this straightened out. Otherwise, we're in for the same crap as soon as we start to face adversity on offense. And I know it remains to be seen at the NFL level, but if there's one thing I think BQ will have over Frye, it's the ability to lead and take charge of this team. I don't think he'll cave into the demands of his more outspoken teammates. But that's JMHO.
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maybe you forgot whta hell he was going off about....he was pointing out fryes jersey to the O linemen and telling them how they aren't doing their job and protecting the QB....should he have done it on the sidelines during the game like that? probably not...but that was his 2nd year...he is young..he is hot headed...he made a mistake..it's not end of the world...ever heard of second chances? let me guess you are Mr. Perfect
No,I remember. But when you don't evenm know the playbook good enough to know where to line up? You have NO ROOM to talk! When you can't run the right routes? You don't have room to talk about others not doing their job
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I don't care who the F points out lazy ppl on our team that aren't doing their job...but that is what he did...and it's about damn time someone is held responsible....he tells it like it is...you just don't like that...then thats your choice
Don't like what? That a guy can't do his own damn job is calling out others for the same thing? Yeah,that's pretty stupid! Funny thing..............................
You're holding everyone responsible but Leon.
Cause he wasn't doing his damn job either. But that's okay because he's got a big mouth huh?
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When Braylon learns to; a. Line up in the right damned place b. Run the right damn routes c. Learn to "lead by example" rather than be an immature jerk on the sideline d. Catch the damn ball I'll listen to what he has to say. You can't gripe about others not doing THEIR job,when you're not doing your own. Well,unless you're Leon. If you want some TO wannabe on the sideline in some half baked rant,have at it. I want a guy to play WR up to his potential,learn the play book and do his job. Untill he can do that.Leon has no room to "talk" about anybody.
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Ok...take away stats...how bout Football? Our Offense Sucked in its execution especially in its Run Game considering the Run Game was the primary goal and primarily due to bad OL play.
The debates would be better without people slinging stats around here to fit their agendas when all ya gotta do is WATCH the games..
We didn't have the ball as much as other teams...
We didn't move the chains.
We didn't have flow.
I don't see how any young skilled player could shine in that environment...not to mention the OC and OL coach fighting each other when both have to be in Sync.
Was BE the cause?
Was BE the catalyst of the negative Offense?
U read my posts..U know I filter the blame to various people..but I also know that Mr.Edwards not knowing the playbook, not running precise routes and gator arming passes adds to the total mess that was the offense last year.
IMO until you produce and are CONSISTANT doing it limit what you say and how you say it..
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When Quinn takes charge of this team. He'll tell Braylon to shut-up and do his job ON the field and QUINN will be the leader.
Are you serious?
Edwards is a Terrell Owens, Keyshawn Johnson, Randy Moss wannabe. No QB can tell those guys what to do, they are all cancers. Edwards would chew Quinn out if he dares try to tell him to do anything. Quinn's best move will be to keep his mouth shut and play perfect football around Edwards.
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That won't happen more than once... Quinn is higher on the totem pole now and Braylon knows it.
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Nah. If Edwards can back up his mouth,maybe. But as of yet? It's all mouth. That doesn't gain you respect. That gains you getting put in your place.
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Cleveland use to be known as the best fans in the world
and it's a shame that those without knowledge are sticking up for a guy who has a ton of talent, and is being paid tons of money, yet he spends to much time running his mouth instead of busting his butt trying to improve himself and be a leader ON the field.
Hell I think BE has all the upside in the world, and you can't name a single poster on this board who hopes he gets his head on straight and becomes a long time pro bowl player, more than I do. BUT I am not about to give the kid a free ride while he runs his mouth and does not give 110 percent effort. Until BE puts the kind of effort into learning the NFL game (and our playbook) that he did into his rehab, he will never and I mean never live up to his potential.
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and for now we are in the offseason so all he can do is work on growing up...
There is no off season in the NFL anymore. He could be spending 60 hours a week (or more) working out, studying film with the other WR's QB's, and WR's coach. Practicing with Charlie and/or Brady on his own. Working on learning the new playbook inside and out. If you want to succeed in the NFL it has to be a 12 month a year job, not a 7 month a year job.
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Not our fault people like to bash the players on the team and twist everything to make them look like Satan.
Talk about making crap up God forbid that just because everybody does not bow down and kiss BE's ass you think he is being treated like Satan Has anybody bashed BE for ANYTHING other than his mouth, and his lack of commitment to getting the most out of his talent?
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I showed you that if he caught EVERY pass thrown to him he'd have had exactly 1000 yards. Your gripe about him not doing his job was not getting 1000 yards. I showed that everyone (Wayne, Holt - you know - 2 of the best WR in the game) drop passes so tere was no way he would get 1000 yds. He did his job. The dropped passes magnified in our offense because it was crap. You people are whining just to whine. You saw a guy "throwing a tantrum on the sidelines" I saw a guy pissed off and tired of losing. You'd have a point if his tantrum was "throw me the ball Charlie, look only my way" but it wasn't now was it? He was pissed because the TEAM was LOSING. I for one, wish we had more players like him - pissed about losing.
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You say he threw people under the bus. Who? Carthon? What O player didn't complain about Carthon? They all hated him. Who else did he throw under the bus? The o-line? YEah, takes a rocket scientist to figure out they are the problem of the O.
There's no point in saying that because people will bash Carthon and the O-line here but then get mad at a player who makes any mention that that could be the problem.
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Peyton Manning has been seen tearing his line in half after a sack (a whole 14 last year) and called Vanderjact an "idiot kicker" to the media. So why is it okay for Manning to throw his players under the bus? What's the difference?
Whatta ya mean! Peyton is being a leader and trying to pump his teammates up to get them to perform at a higher level, he isn't mad that the offense isn't doing well at that point, why would you ever show frustration if you are doing bad
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By the way, I said "prove it" because WITHOUT A LINK it's NOT a fact to make a statement like that. I have NEVER heard any rumblings of him being a locker room cancer, not one. People on here make it up so they can continue to hate the Browns.
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There is no off season in the NFL anymore.
Sure there is. It's called the Pro-Bowl.
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Sure there is. It's called the Pro-Bowl.
The saddest thing about the NFL too :/
Also, did anyone see that Braylon donated $1,000,000...
Sure seems like a jerk move, maybe he didn't donate enough
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Sure seems like a jerk move, maybe he didn't donate enough
What he does for charity has no bearing on what he does when he is playing. He can be both, a good humanitarian and a locker room cancer. Let's hope he stops being the latter.
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No, nobody saw that he donated $1 mil
I know some millionaires here in Austin that donate far more than that. But does anyone care around here? No? Why? Because it's not what you do off the field, but what you do on it. If Edwards played for the Bears, nobody on this board would know about his charitable contributions. Why? Because they aren't the reasons we're interested.
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No, nobody saw that he donated $1 mil
I know some millionaires here in Austin that donate far more than that. But does anyone care around here? No? Why? Because it's not what you do off the field, but what you do on it. If Edwards played for the Bears, nobody on this board would know about his charitable contributions. Why? Because they aren't the reasons we're interested.
I know what you're saying, but you need to know what I'm saying.
I would know, because the story was posted on ESPN.com
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Because it's not what you do off the field, but what you do on it.
Caught ya!!! TRAPPED!!!
Then why does it matter if he says some stuff in a stupid little interview after a game or something that everyone bags him for being immature? You can't have it both ways!
I was at at a point this year where I was disappointed how Braylon handled some stuff not because it made me mad at him, but because it was embarrassing as a Browns fan, I was pissed at the line this year, and when Braylon blew up on them on the sideline, it brought it to a national media level which made it bad, but I still agreed with him which is the reason I am not mad at him... The drops were aggravating as well, but the yards and the comeback made up for it in my mind, if Braylon hadn't busted his ass we could have seen a 500 yard season from him, instead he played the whole year he screwed up he blew up and now he knows what he needs to work on to become a better player or person.
I hope the fans lighten up, I don't want to run a superstar out of Cleveland.
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that's different...that's stuff he does off the field that annoys people whereas donating money is off the field stuff that they can't get annoyed about (without really, really digging for something insanely petty).
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If he can annoy you off the field he should be able to do something that makes you appreciate him, you cant hate him if he does something slightly wrong but not admit it when he does something right.
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I showed you that if he caught EVERY pass thrown to him he'd have had exactly 1000 yards. Your gripe about him not doing his job was not getting 1000 yards. I showed that everyone (Wayne, Holt - you know - 2 of the best WR in the game) drop passes so tere was no way he would get 1000 yds. He did his job. The dropped passes magnified in our offense because it was crap. You people are whining just to whine. You saw a guy "throwing a tantrum on the sidelines" I saw a guy pissed off and tired of losing. You'd have a point if his tantrum was "throw me the ball Charlie, look only my way" but it wasn't now was it? He was pissed because the TEAM was LOSING. I for one, wish we had more players like him - pissed about losing.
Pit been owned.
Because he made some flimsy excuse why Braylon lacks the self restraint of an adult?
I think not.
Making up excuses for punk behavior isn't "owning" anyone. It's making excuses for millionaires to be spoiled brats and being disruptive to the whole team. That's a cop out. That's making excuses for him to continue to act like an ass.
Or are those the traits this generation looks up to?
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I swear some of you are more a fan of the individual players than you are of the team. So far, Braylon has not been good for this team. You can turn a blind eye to the stories about his attitude and his playing if you like, but it looks as though you have more love for the player than you do the team. If he's not good for the Browns.....he's not good for me. I hope he lives up to his potential and gets his act together, I really do. That would be what is ultimately best for the Browns.
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I swear some of you are more a fan of the individual players than you are of the team. So far, Braylon has not been good for this team. You can turn a blind eye to the stories about his attitude and his playing if you like, but it looks as though you have more love for the player than you do the team. If he's not good for the Browns.....he's not good for me.
I hope he lives up to his potential and gets his act together, I really do. That would be what is ultimately best for the Browns.
Without Edwards, we have 884 less yards and 6 less TDs. I'd say that's good for the taeam.
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I swear some of you are more a fan of the individual players than you are of the team. So far, Braylon has not been good for this team. You can turn a blind eye to the stories about his attitude and his playing if you like, but it looks as though you have more love for the player than you do the team. If he's not good for the Browns.....he's not good for me.
I hope he lives up to his potential and gets his act together, I really do. That would be what is ultimately best for the Browns.
Without Edwards, we have 884 less yards and 6 less TDs. I'd say that's good for the taeam.
6 out of 22 offensive TDs...and 884 out of 2898 yards....man we should cut this guy.
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I showed you that if he caught EVERY pass thrown to him he'd have had exactly 1000 yards. Your gripe about him not doing his job was not getting 1000 yards. I showed that everyone (Wayne, Holt - you know - 2 of the best WR in the game) drop passes so tere was no way he would get 1000 yds. He did his job. The dropped passes magnified in our offense because it was crap. You people are whining just to whine. You saw a guy "throwing a tantrum on the sidelines" I saw a guy pissed off and tired of losing. You'd have a point if his tantrum was "throw me the ball Charlie, look only my way" but it wasn't now was it? He was pissed because the TEAM was LOSING. I for one, wish we had more players like him - pissed about losing.
Pit been owned.
Because he made some flimsy excuse why Braylon lacks the self restraint of an adult?
I think not.
Making up excuses for punk behavior isn't "owning" anyone. It's making excuses for millionaires to be spoiled brats and being disruptive to the whole team. That's a cop out. That's making excuses for him to continue to act like an ass.
Or are those the traits this generation looks up to?
Well, then obviously you despise Peyton Manning. He called Vandy an idiot kicker and reams out his lineman if they mess up.
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I showed you that if he caught EVERY pass thrown to him he'd have had exactly 1000 yards. Your gripe about him not doing his job was not getting 1000 yards. I showed that everyone (Wayne, Holt - you know - 2 of the best WR in the game) drop passes so tere was no way he would get 1000 yds. He did his job. The dropped passes magnified in our offense because it was crap. You people are whining just to whine. You saw a guy "throwing a tantrum on the sidelines" I saw a guy pissed off and tired of losing. You'd have a point if his tantrum was "throw me the ball Charlie, look only my way" but it wasn't now was it? He was pissed because the TEAM was LOSING. I for one, wish we had more players like him - pissed about losing.
Pit been owned.
Because he made some flimsy excuse why Braylon lacks the self restraint of an adult?
I think not.
Making up excuses for punk behavior isn't "owning" anyone. It's making excuses for millionaires to be spoiled brats and being disruptive to the whole team. That's a cop out. That's making excuses for him to continue to act like an ass.
Or are those the traits this generation looks up to?
Well, then obviously you despise Peyton Manning. He called Vandy an idiot kicker and reams out his lineman if they mess up.
Sorry pal - apples to oranges there. Don't compare the best q.b. in the league, and what he does and says, to a run of the mill rec, and what he does (run wrong routes, etc). Just doesn't fly.
Great for Braylon - he donated a HUGE sum of money. And congrats to him for that. But take a step back and realize that he donated a portion of his salary, his salary that he hasn't earned. I don't care if he came back "early" from a knee injury.
Until he does it on the field, he is nothing but a "potential" great player. Potential doesn't mean squat.
Catch the ball, Braylon. Run the right routes, braylon. Keep your mouth shut in the huddle braylon. Do what you're told, and maybe someday you'll be a top notch rec. Help the Browns win, I'll love you.
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Mike Vick donated money to Virginia Tech. Does that make up for all the negative things he's done in the past year?
Braylon Edwards donates money, does that make it okay for him to now do and say whatever he wants?
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Mike Vick donated money to Virginia Tech. Does that make up for all the negative things he's done in the past year?
Braylon Edwards donates money, does that make it okay for him to now do and say whatever he wants?
Mike Vick donated $10,000 when he has a contract double the size of Braylon's. Braylon's donated $1.5 million.
Mike Vick was also caught with a water bottle that smelled like pot, flipped the bird to his home fans and is involved in a dogfighting ring.
Braylon hasn't been involved in any off the field issues.
It's ludicrous to put Braylon in the Vick/Pacman/Henry category.
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And this is why you will never be a credible poster on this board.
You smack of agenda. This is how players get quoted out of context. Here is what BE really said:
"I saw some growth, but I still saw a kid that was coming from an Akron or a [Mid-American Conference] school and didn't necessarily have the knowledge or preparation of a Brady Quinn-type of collegiate QB.
"So I saw a guy that's still learning, still has a long ways to go. But also I saw a guy that was put in a bad situation. I saw a guy who didn't have the best protection in football."
There was a 2nd part to the quote. All that first part meant what tools CF had to contend with the NFL coming in as a Rookie and in his 2nd year making his first season as a starter. Finish the quote and give us information instead of your GARBAGE AGENDA... The continuation was "SO I SAW A GUY" and that is the point of the subject not your selective misleading agenda quote. 
JMHO
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Face it Eo....Corp still has a scab on his ass from Couch being dumped in favor of Kelly Holcomb.
It's not worth the effort to try to explain things to him. I am beginning to wonder if Corp isn't really Tim or maybe his brother who does all the talking for the guy??
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Jules I'm not upset about Braylon and there is no reason for me to be... We were 4-12 with him, without him up to the Bye week when he comes back, who says we even win a single game?
If you want to say I'm more a fan of a player then the team, if thats even close in any case, thats for Winslow, and I've been a huge fan of him since 2004, fast forward to the year 2006, 89 receptions and 875 yards later, thats looking pretty damn good to me playing on one leg practically.
I don't get how you can criticize me for sticking up for a player on the team, maybe he has said some stupid things, who cares, if you are going to get that offended over words as a pro-athlete then you are in the wrong career, because every where you go people are going to let you hear it.
Braylon heard it towards the end of the year from Browns fans, it ended up at a point where anything that happened he was blamed for...
Example? The Steelers game where he went over 100 yards, there was a hail mary, the throw was terrible, Joe J. some how managed to knock it back in play, Braylon had to go out of bounds to get a hand on it, and he couldn't come up with the juggled pass...
People then proceeded to blame him for the game, believe it or not, I heard it a ton the following week.
Now, maybe I am a worse fan because I don't see the big deal, the guy has played 2 years, came back from a knee injury faster than anyone imagined, and seemed to me like he really wanted to win.
Now yes, he did drop passes, he did run wrong routes (I've seen Marvin Harrison and Peyton Manning off page...) and he did line up in some wrong places (So did Winslow.)
Theyre young players, give them a chance, I am sure if he does great, you guys will be the first to praise him, then the next time he messes up, you'll be the first to bash him.
Support your players...
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I swear some of you are more a fan of the individual players than you are of the team. So far, Braylon has not been good for this team. You can turn a blind eye to the stories about his attitude and his playing if you like, but it looks as though you have more love for the player than you do the team. If he's not good for the Browns.....he's not good for me.
I hope he lives up to his potential and gets his act together, I really do. That would be what is ultimately best for the Browns.
Without Edwards, we have 884 less yards and 6 less TDs. I'd say that's good for the taeam.
So Soup, Your saying that whoever replaces BE catches no passes for no yards? Antionio Bryant might have caught a few and he wasn't afraid to go over the middle. Seems to me about half of Charlie's ints were passes to Edwards that got tipped or he gave up on or didn't bother to fight for or ran a bad route or broke off to soon. The guy has the ability he just needs to produce.
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