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I never said he wouldn't get a second chance....he will probably end up getting a third, and fourth and fifth chance is my only problem. I also refuse to let anything from the offseason offset what he did IN season.
It's not offsetting anything. What he's doing right now (and I'm sure Braylon knows this) isn't going to change a thing if he comes into the season and puts out a repeat performance. There's no reason reading all this should convince anyone of anything.
However, I'm baffled as to how a guy going out, saying all the right things, donating to charity, and working hard in the off-season program can actually get him BASHED.
He's doing all he can right now to mend his image and he's doing a good job of it. It's not the final step by any means, but it's a start... I can't believe people are willing to view it so negatively.
I want to see it on the field too, but it's the off-season...
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I am not bashing him for charity work.  The things he did far outweight a few tax deductable donations. He is a Brown, which means i will analyze him WAY more than any player from another team. DO you think if we had Chris Henry I would be like "Ohh he is trying to change"....???
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I am not bashing him for charity work.
The things he did far outweight a few tax deductable donations.
He is a Brown, which means i will analyze him WAY more than any player from another team.
DO you think if we had Chris Henry I would be like "Ohh he is trying to change"....???
There's a difference between analysis and nitpicking. All analysis tells me that Braylon is working hard to get better thus far. If I want to nitpick, I can criticize him for giving one interview or spinning his charity into a donation solely to save face without having to work for it... but that's ridiculous.
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On a side note, forget any BS talk about his charitable contributions. That's meaningless. People only really care what he does as it pertains to football.
I think you're wrong.
Honestly, why do you think he was boo'ed at that Cavs game? You think it's because he didn't catch a lot of touchdowns? Hell no. He was boo'ed because people think he's a selfish jerk and that doesn't fly in this town. And guess what... that has NOTHING to do with football... that has everything to do with him as a person.
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On a side note, forget any BS talk about his charitable contributions. That's meaningless. People only really care what he does as it pertains to football.
I dont agree. I think this was a good step for him to polish his image and begin replacing that me me me image he has built since before he was drafted.
Exactly....These folks are ragging on him for his football actions right now, it's all about off season interviews and talk.
He's saying the exact same thing everyone else would say if someone stuck a mic in their face right now.
Not much different than your nephew who sucks at baseball says "hey watch this uncle soandso" and hits the ball off a tee. Do just look at him and say "prove it on the field, until then shut the hell up"? or do you say "ok, good job, now keep it up and improve your gameday hitting"
There is nothing wrong with having a little faith, it doesn't mean we are hoping to carry his jock, just that we are willing to give the man a chance to prove himself this year, without riding him every chance we get.
I guess I'm just hopeful, because I really don't want to have to spend more draft picks on WR potential if he doesn't get his act together, and as long as he is a Brown and a starter I will give him the "benefit" of the doubt.
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There is nothing wrong with having a little faith
Not unless it's misplaced faith.
He had this reputation when coming out of Michigan. It's gotten worse, not better. He was given a ton of "faith" over the past two seasons. He's used up all his free passes.
So now that he's giving money away, we're supposed to go "Awww....shucks. Maybe he's turned the corner. It's ok Braylon, we got your back."
I don't think so.
And let's all be COMPLETELY honest with ourselves here. If he were some banker that pledged $1 million, would any of you care? Hell no you wouldn't. You'd say "it's a good story" then turn your focus to the agonizing decision between Frankenberry or Captain Crunch
It's all about football. We're looking for reasons to believe that he's going to turn the corner. People in Miami believed Ricky Williams when he said he was clean for "3 years" then he got popped two weeks later. Shame on them. I'm not going to put any stock in Edwards charitable contributions as it pertains to him as a person. It doesn't matter. It's disposable money and deep down every single person here has asked this question: Would he still be doing this if he hadn't acted like a punk? Did anyone believe that Mike Vick was genuine when he gave $10k to VT after the shootings?
Giving away money doesn't mean anything here as it pertains to Edwards the football player. Too many people are using it as hope that he's turning the corner. Forgive myself and others if we aren't going to be suckered into thinking this means he's a different person. He's got to prove it on the field, not with his checkbook.
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Soup, How you come up with your latest reply is mind boggling... Either get back on your meds or put down the pipe and refrain... You are nearly a complete joke... You either don't bother to read or can't comprehend at all... You are so "out there" that it’s difficult to read your replies... Let alone try to make sense of them... You just seem to write so you can read you own ridiculous drivel... Why do you bother to reply... You continually embarrass your self here... There is so much evidence and proof that BE is and arrogant, shellfish, punk it easy to find it... It is all over the place... Are you not capable to go and find it... Have you not watched and witnessed BE actions, behavior and his interviews??? Have you not read the replies here about BE? Would you say they support your position on BE or other positions on BE? That answer is clear and complete… You are wrong, off base yet again… Move on and spew you BS on a topic you have some knowledge on... Is there a topic you can speak intelligently too??? 
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I'm sure there is ... it just doesn't fall under the realm of football .... 
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Sports Blog??? This is still new to me. Does that mean its an article written by an actual sports journalist with credentials just for the internet as opposed to print???
I understand anyone can blog but can we assume some are actual articles such as the ones written by Zac Jackson?
Does aolsportsblog have any credibility?
Anyway was just wondering what we can take as Truth, Fact, Rumor or Garbage now its confusing.
CF is the guy until BQ is ready its as simple as that.
Anderson was never in the equation...thats just out there in case somebody makes an offer for CF that we can't refuse so people don't go banana's.
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Aw jeez,Braylon,when are you ever going to learn.I enjoyed your NFL interview,and now you revert back to this.
"I want to go on record. Charlie is our guy"
Quinn hasn't even signed his contract,and already you're throwing him under the bus.
"I want to be the guy that they drafted."
What an immature cheapshot at the GM.
"I want to be the guy Romeo Crennel deserves."
He doesn't deserve that kind of disrespect.That only shows what a selfish player you are.
"I want to be the guy the city expects me to be."
Just STFU.Any mature,self respecting adult knows you can't buy your way into the hearts of Clevelanders.
There,that should save alot of people alot time.
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We should pre-emptively retire #17, Braylon Edwards is like, so awesome. 
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Maybe this will suffice then, it's the exact same quote I posted before but this time it's from the Akron Beacon Journal and not AOL Sports.
http://www.ohio.com/mld/ohio/sports/17238824.htm?source=rss&channel=ohio_sports
"Edwards briefly addressed football after the ceremony and said that Charlie Frye is the team's quarterback. ``I want to go on record. Charlie is our guy,'' Edwards said. The competition with Brady Quinn, the second of two first-round draft picks, will be ``a great one,'' but Edwards added: ``Charlie is our guy, and with the new (offensive) system, Charlie could be looking at a big year.''... Edwards said he learned much last season, and he's ``trying to be a better man, be a better team player.... I want to be the guy that they drafted. I want to be the guy Romeo Crennel deserves. I want to be the guy the city expects me to be.''
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On a side note, forget any BS talk about his charitable contributions. That's meaningless. People only really care what he does as it pertains to football.
WHOA there Toadmeister,,, that's just not true man,,, that's just totally NOT TRUE... the only people that care ONLY about what he does on the field are those that are living in a Playstation world and thinking Fantasy football NOT real life.....  
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"I want to go on record. Charlie is our guy"
Quinn hasn't even signed his contract,and already you're throwing him under the bus.
Savage said the same thing in an interview recently, Charlie is the incumbent and as far as things are at this very moment, Charlie IS the guy until otherwise decided. Quinn hasn't signed his name yet, so he isn't even "officially" a Brown yet.
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Why because he's saying he wants to live up the the expectation of the team that drafted him. Basically saying he knows he hasn't been everything that expected yet, but he's working on getting there?
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He doesn't deserve that kind of disrespect.That only shows what a selfish player you are.
Disrespect? He indirectly just said, that Romeo deserves better than what he has given him to this point. He's showing he has respect for RAC.
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Just STFU.Any mature,self respecting adult knows you can't buy your way into the hearts of Clevelanders.
There,that should save alot of people alot time.
Just stating again, that he knows he hasn't lived up to the expectations of the fans.
Unless all your comments are sarcastic in nature, to summarize the general feeling of many of this board. 
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Aw jeez,Braylon,when are you ever going to learn.I enjoyed your NFL interview,and now you revert back to this.
"I want to go on record. Charlie is our guy"
Quinn hasn't even signed his contract,and already you're throwing him under the bus.
"I want to be the guy that they drafted."
What an immature cheapshot at the GM.
"I want to be the guy Romeo Crennel deserves."
He doesn't deserve that kind of disrespect.That only shows what a selfish player you are.
"I want to be the guy the city expects me to be."
Just STFU.Any mature,self respecting adult knows you can't buy your way into the hearts of Clevelanders.
There,that should save alot of people alot time.
Love it, thats exactly how some react to everything he says. This isnt Randy Moss or T.O. people, yes he has made some mistakes but at least he is trying to learn from them.. but again, words are great but they don't mean anything if he doesn't back them up.
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And let's all be COMPLETELY honest with ourselves here. If he were some banker that pledged $1 million, would any of you care? Hell no you wouldn't. You'd say "it's a good story" then turn your focus to the agonizing decision between Frankenberry or Captain Crunch
What a load of crap.
Frankenberry, without a second's deliberation.
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(or is that Booberry? I forget)
As far as Frye or Quinn.........Frye gets the nod. That's simple common sense. He SHOULD be the guy to get the first crack at it, and he SHOULD be the guy that gets the most reps.
The only way he isn't the starter is if BradyBunch blows him away, and I can't see that happening as a true rookie.
Now what happens when we're out of the playoff picture? What happens if Chuck still can't get his rating into the 80's? All bets are off........
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Wow, a critical comment in the first reply - gotta love our supportive fans.
Yes,the fact we wish to SEE results rather than HEAR the "talk" is simply unbelievable.
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The difference between you and me BpG is that I'm willing to give the YOUNG man a chance to grow and learn and be a better person.,.,,,
We're giving him a "chance" too. A chance to "show us".
I've heard more BS from pro athletes in my lifetime than Carter has liver pills.
I'll be thrilled and overjoyed if he turns it around,I really will. But if you think this little "media blitz" means anything in terms of his actions,I think that's very premature.
Let's SEE what he does. Hopefully he backs up his words. I'm waiting to see if he does. But seeing is believing and hot air is free.
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Wow, a critical comment in the first reply - gotta love our supportive fans.
Yes,the fact we wish to SEE results rather than HEAR the "talk" is simply unbelievable.
No, but the fact that you want them NOW (when they are impossible to provide) and refuse to accept anything else as a positive indicator in the meantime IS.
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Winslow and Edwards were cut from a very similar mold. Winslow took the public humiliation and jokes along with another year of rehab before he began showing growth and maturity. Maybe the incidents of last year and the shots by fans and media has pushed Edwards down that same path of growth and maturity. I really hope it has.
If we get a truly dedicated Braylon Edwards we will have one hell of a player. Its a big I but he is taking the right steps.
Very good point. Winslow had to deal with a metric ton of criticism before he became the more humble (if you can call him humble) player he is now.
Getting booed at the Q can do a lot to change how you think about yourself, I'd have to imagine. I know I'd think "Wow, I'm not as loved as I think I am. I need to change this."
It took physical AND emotional torture to get Winslow to change...will this emotional torture be enough to turn Edwards around? We'll see, I think he's off to a good start.
I hate some of the crowds at the Cavs games, my friend told me some Cavs fans were booing him after the 2006 season...
Apparently they don't appreciate 89 receptions 875 yards and playing with one leg, snobby jerks.
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Pretty simple really..................................
What has he shown us "during the season" to this point?
He gave a half a million to school kids last year during the offseason. How did that effect how he acted during the "season last year again"????
He's given a million this year during the off season. Now how will that effect him "this season" again?
See,when there's "no pressure" during the "off-season" it's easy to "say" the right thing. You don't "blow your cool" during the "off season". None of us will know untill the season is underway. He has done a great thing for school kids in Cleveland. I applaud him for that.
But from his half million dollar donation last year,we've seen evidence that his being "noble" during the off season,had NO effect on his behavior during the season. So I'm waiting to see.
If you buy into his little "media blitz" have at it. I saw the results last year after his "kind heartlidness" during the off season. So let's see if this is just "more of the same" or if he's really turned the corner. I have no way of knowing any more than you do. But I do have evidence to point to of a pattern of behavior that you simply do not.
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Aw jeez,Braylon,when are you ever going to learn.I enjoyed your NFL interview,and now you revert back to this.
"I want to go on record. Charlie is our guy"
Quinn hasn't even signed his contract,and already you're throwing him under the bus.
"I want to be the guy that they drafted."
What an immature cheapshot at the GM.
"I want to be the guy Romeo Crennel deserves."
He doesn't deserve that kind of disrespect.That only shows what a selfish player you are.
"I want to be the guy the city expects me to be."
Just STFU.Any mature,self respecting adult knows you can't buy your way into the hearts of Clevelanders.
There,that should save alot of people alot time.
I hate being the bad guy here but to everyone who is saying these harsh things about Braylon should STFU. We true Brown fans don't need your BS.
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Aw jeez,Braylon,when are you ever going to learn.I enjoyed your NFL interview,and now you revert back to this.
"I want to go on record. Charlie is our guy"
Quinn hasn't even signed his contract,and already you're throwing him under the bus.
"I want to be the guy that they drafted."
What an immature cheapshot at the GM.
"I want to be the guy Romeo Crennel deserves."
He doesn't deserve that kind of disrespect.That only shows what a selfish player you are.
"I want to be the guy the city expects me to be."
Just STFU.Any mature,self respecting adult knows you can't buy your way into the hearts of Clevelanders.
There,that should save alot of people alot time.
I hate being the bad guy here but to everyone who is saying these harsh things about Braylon should STFU. We true Brown fans don't need your BS.
I don't mind people saying they don't think he did too well on the field, or that they didn't like him getting mad on the field (although it was warranted) I just don't like the people that are bagging him for doing good things in the offseason.
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I don't mind people saying they don't think he did too well on the field, or that they didn't like him getting mad on the field (although it was warranted) I just don't like the people that are bagging him for doing good things in the offseason.
Everyone is entitled to their opinion. I find it highly amusing, hence why I read the forums. Assanine comments and people getting butthurt about people who have no impact on them whatsoever, helps me get through my day.
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Sounds invasive and painful.
I hope it's not contagious.
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"There,that should save alot of people alot time."
Did you read that line,its called brevity.I knew you and your cohorts wouldn't get it,but what I find strange,is the two Florida boys missed it.Must have something to do with continual sun beating down on the top of one's head.
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I tried to keep up with this thread, but it kind of took off - I haven't read "every" reply, so forgive me.
Bottom line, for me, is BE doesn't take responsibility for the problems he has caused - he's blaming others for the problems, not himself - not once have I heard him simply say " I should be doing more", as in knowing the playbook, running the right routes, downfield blocking, etc.
Instead, we get him blaming others, and people that defend his "new" attitude (donating money) by saying "look, he just turned over a new leaf".
Was he drafted to donate money, or was he drafted to improve the team? If some of you are happy now that he's donating a small portion of his immense salary, then I would lobby you to have the Browns hire me - I will gladly give/donate 70% of the millions the Browns sign me to, just as long as you don't expect performance on the field. (hey, I would look good in a uniform, and I can catch like a backstop with a wild pitcher - but I ain't so fast, and I get hurt easy)
Was he drafted because he would donate money, or was he drafted to improve our team? He's done one of those things, but not the other. Until he improves our team, I have no love lost on him. And that goes for any other player, as well.
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"There,that should save alot of people alot time."
Did you read that line,its called brevity.I knew you and your cohorts wouldn't get it,but what I find strange,is the two Florida boys missed it.Must have something to do with continual sun beating down on the top of one's head.
I didn't reply to or quote you, I quoted someone else reacting to what you said.
Nice witty comeback
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I hope it's not contagious.
It is Toad!
Any time you listen to words rather than a persons "actions" you can get a case of it.
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I hate being the bad guy here but to everyone who is saying these harsh things about Braylon should STFU. We true Brown fans don't need your BS.
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I hate being the bad guy here but to everyone who is saying these harsh things about Braylon should STFU. We true Brown fans don't need your BS.
Define "true Brown fans" please.
Browns fan - Gets drunk at games if 21 or over, possibly younger, screams random things at games while intoxicated. The Indians and Cavaliers are just a distraction and mini-camp is more interesting then regular season games for either team. September 9th is circled on your calendar, and you know that hope can be very deceiving, you hope to win every game even if the team is the best in the league, and when you lose, you throw a tantrum and call for everyones head.
Thats my opinion.
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Thats my opinion. Duly noted and ignored.......
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It wasn't meant to be offensive to Browns fans at all... If you've been to a Browns Game at the Dawg Pound you would know what I am talking about.
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Actually, my seats are two sections over from the Pound. And while there are a fair number of over-imbibers it's really not as bad as you make it sound. To each his own, I guess.
"People who drink light 'beer' don't like the taste of beer; they just like to pee a lot."
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It wasn't meant to be offensive to Browns fans at all... If you've been to a Browns Game at the Dawg Pound you would know what I am talking about.
I've probably been to more Browns games, in the pound, than you've watched in your life. Don't tell me about "real" Browns fans. Many on this board have seen pictures of my truck - perhaps you have? Perhaps you haven't? Don't tell me, or any of us, about "true" Browns fans, as many of us, myself included, own you in that department.
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What I said doesn't sound bad to me one bit... Did you even read it for what it was, ill dissect what I meant for you, as it wasn't meant to be offensive at all. Quote:
Gets drunk at games if 21 or over, possibly younger, screams random things at games while intoxicated.
I see it where I sit, I hear people yelling random funny things the entire time and half the people around me are drunk, its fine, they go there to have fun, hell the guy next to me was smoking pot.
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The Indians and Cavaliers are just a distraction and mini-camp is more interesting then regular season games for either team.
I love the Tribe, but its not even close, mini camp footage is more exciting then most other sports related, and training camp owns, that is just how it is for me.
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September 9th is circled on your calendar.
Browns Pittsburgh, I cannot wait, I'm sure others cannot wait either, in fact I can't wait for more Mini-camp footage and for day one of training camp which I will attend. I don't get how anything I said so far is offensive.
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and you know that hope can be very deceiving.
Do I need to even explain this one? Tim Couch, Courtney Brown, Gerrard Warren, William Green, Jeff Faine... 9-7 in the playoffs up a ton thinking were going to win... As a Browns fan, you hope for the best, but after a while you understand that at some times your hope can deceive you and kill you.
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you hope to win every game even if the team is the best in the league,
Entering the San Diego game, I wanted to win, expected to win...
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and when you lose, you throw a tantrum and call for everyones head.
After the San Diego game, I was upset with the fact that our red-zone offense was absolutely horrible, and we could have had a chance at upsetting a monster in the AFC, after most games fans get pissed at someone and call for their heads, AKA Fire Crennel!!! Cut blah blah blah... Then they get over it, this is what I see all the time, don't try to BS me at all and say this doesn't happen, because it happens all the time.
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Thats my opinion.
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It wasn't meant to be offensive to Browns fans at all... If you've been to a Browns Game at the Dawg Pound you would know what I am talking about.
I've probably been to more Browns games, in the pound, than you've watched in your life. Don't tell me about "real" Browns fans. Many on this board have seen pictures of my truck - perhaps you have? Perhaps you haven't? Don't tell me, or any of us, about "true" Browns fans, as many of us, myself included, own you in that department.
Glad to know that having a truck makes you a "true" browns fan...
I didn't try to insult anyone, I just told you what I thought of when I thought of Browns fan, I really doubt you own me as a Browns fan, you have NO idea how much I like the Browns.
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