DawgTalkers.net Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Ryan Mallett vs. Brian Hoyer: Both quarterbacks impressive in first practice against Redskins

is mallett available

now that was funny!!!

was but we did not even talk to him.

How did he play in game 2?

dont know. but he is young. has alot of upside. certainly more upside than mccown or shaw and maybe johnny too. its all about taking the chance to get better.......

Well, let me answer why he is sitting, and Hoyer is starting.

Mallett was lousy in game 2, He completed 5/7 passes in game 2, for a whopping 23 yards. He repeatedly missed (looking at) open receivers, and looked short, shorter, and shortest with his passes.

In other words, he would have fit in perfectly with the procession of ineffective QBs we have paraded through Berea over the past 15 seasons. (with 1 or 2 exclusions)

Mallett is probably not sitting because of his [lack] of performance in the preseason games. Mallett is likely sitting because the coaches watched these two players practice for several weeks and determined that Hoyer was better.

The fact that Hoyer outperformed Mallett tells you a lot about Mallett.

ok. you and YTownBrownsFan are right. there is no way mallet could improve ever.... no way he has more upside than mccown or shaw. he should just give up football right now.....

Just watched the video of O'Brien choosing Hoyer over Mallett.

Douche versus turd sandwich is what I got from O'Brien during that video. He did not exactly inspire confidence.

I'm not sure we know if we did or not. If we did I missed it.

well either did not talk or FAILED to sign him. either way......

Mallett was the 3rd string QB behind Hoyer in New England and he's coming back from a 2014 injury. (Really that's all I need to know.)

He's not through with football just yet but his days are numbered if he can't beat out the likes of Hoyer. Besides Houston isn't going to let him go until they see Hoyer's production.

are you talking about johnny?

We don't know the answer to this question right now, but was Garoppolo drafted because he was good, because Mallett was bad, or because Mallett's contract was expiring soon?

Yeah, I watch Hard Knocks on HBO. O'Brien didn't exactly give Hoyer a nod of confidence. Said both were very close and his decision was a hard one. that there was very little difference between the two. Said he wouldn't deal with sucktitude and told Mallet to be ready in a moments notice.

he signed his contract on the 9th... FA period started on the 10th. so yeah we did not talk to him.

March 7-10: Clubs are permitted to contact, and enter into contract negotiations with the certified agents of players who will become Unrestricted Free Agents upon the expiration of their 2014 contracts at 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 10. However, a contract cannot be executed with a new club until 4:00 p.m., New York time, on March 10.

March 10: Prior to 4:00 p.m., New York time, clubs must exercise options for 2015 on all players who have option clauses in their 2014 contracts.

and he signed on the 10th so yea. we could have try....

But there is a difference I'm sure you know.

* Did not talk = did not try.

* Couldn't sign him = tried but couldn't get a deal done.

Also, an odd point I'm sure, but if we tried but couldn't sign him it doesn't necessarily mean they "FAILED" to sign him. It could mean they "failed" to sign him.

Or, more likely, they just didn't want to sign him?

Doesn't matter anyways . It's Ryan Mallett.

The best free agent QB available was Mark Sanchez. So yeah, we were never going to get anyone good. (This is why I advocated for trading for Jay Cutler even though he is a turd.)

Browns shutting down Johnny Manziel's sore elbow for a while and might need to sign a QB

http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2015/08/browns_shutting_down_johnny_ma.html

well isnt that great.

The fact that Farmer chose to pay McCown pretty big money over keeping Hoyer tells you a lot about Farmer.

Texans' QB Mallett Stung by Losing Starting Job to Hoyer

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Ryan Mallett was still seething on Tuesday, a day after Brian Hoyer beat him out to earn Houston's starting quarterback job.

"Am I disappointed? Yeah. Angry? Little bit," Mallett said. "Thought I did enough to deserve the job. But it was not seen that way so I'll do what's best for the team."

Coach Bill O'Brien, who announced the decision on Monday, said he wouldn't expect Mallett to be happy about losing the job.

"When you name a starter and the other guy happens to be the No. 2 guy, that guy's not going to be happy. Especially if he's a competitor," O'Brien said. "That's what you want. You don't want a guy jumping around doing back-springs when he gets named the backup."

The Texans played four quarterbacks last season because of injuries. Mallett, who started two games last season before a season-ending pectoral injury, thinks he'll get a chance to play.

"I'm just going to wait until my turn gets called," Mallett said. "At some point it's going to happen this year."

Mallett had just finished practice when he spoke on Tuesday. His hulking 6-foot-6 frame looked tense as he grabbed the sides of the podium as he spoke.

"I thought I had a pretty good camp," he said. "I thought I was consistent in my completion percentage every day. Didn't turn the ball over. Three incompletions so far in the preseason so I thought I was playing all right."

Aside from his two starts last season, Mallett has been a backup his entire career, spending three years behind Tom Brady in New England before joining the Texans last August. He felt much more comfortable in this offense this season after having an entire year to work on it and lamented being relegated to second string once again.

"I wanted this job more than anything," he said.

Mallett probably won't get over the sting of this decision for a while, if he ever does. So for now all he can do is stay focused and continue to prepare in case he gets a chance to play.

"I don't know what else to do but work my (butt) off so that's what I'm going to keep doing," he said.

That's an interesting comment.

Is he saying that he knows Hoyer is injury prone or is he saying he knows Hoyer will suck? LOL..........sounds like a great teammate.

Hoyer -- who started for MSU in Mark Dantonio's first two seasons of 2007 and 2008 -- and Mallett joined O'Brien in a meeting room, and O'Brien got right to the point.

"I don't expect everybody to agree with every decision I make, but I do expect that we act like pros and we're good in the locker room, and we go out there and try to keep the best interest of the team in mind at all times," O'Brien said. "So I'm gonna name Brian the starter, Ryan, OK? And really, it comes down to consistency. It's just consistency over time, from OTAs through training camp. Consistency in the meeting room. Consistency on the field. Consistency all the way around in the organization."

O'Brien turned to his right to address Hoyer.

"And it's really not that big of a difference, I'll say that in front of you," O'Brien said. "It's really not. You've got to earn it every day. OK now, when it comes to leadership and things like that, it's important for the quarterback to be a leader, there's no doubt about that. But you've got to earn it on the field, you've got to win games with the Houston Texans before you become the leader of the team."

O'Brien turned to his left to address Mallett.

"And what I would expect from you, Ryan, is to be a professional about it, to prepare like a starter and to be (expletive) ready to play."

Back to Hoyer: "If things aren't going very well, look, we're not on a short leash here but, look, we're not gonna like sit there and let it go like eight games of not being very good."

To Mallett: "You need to be really ready to go."

To Hoyer: "Not trying to put heat on you, I'm just telling you, you've got to get after it every day. We're going with Brian right now, because he's been the most consistent. If there's anything else you guys want to talk about, you can come see me any time. All right? All right."

And with that, O'Brien left and the HBO cameras stayed on him as he walked out of the facility. He was New England's quarterbacks coach and then offensive coordinator in Hoyer's first three seasons in the NFL as Tom Brady's backup.

Hoyer, 29, was 6-3 as the starter for his hometown Cleveland Browns last season before struggling late in the season and losing his job.

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LOL----------another guy who "gets" quarterbacks.

McCown did not get big money. For a veteran starting QB (which, like it or not, he is) he is making peanuts.

wonder if we could trade for DA?

why on earth would we??

Yup. For what he is, that contract is chump change, and it is front-loaded with the majority of the money being in annual salary. It's really quite affordable to cut him after this year if he doesn't work out, and he's cheap if he does work out.

How do you not see what Bennett and I are saying? Go back and read it again.

We both realize he isn't making big money for a QB, but that was kinda the point.................QBs that aren't very good make more money than very good players at other positions.

Come on, man..............you are smarter than that.

To relive that game at Cinci in game 15 of 2007, when he threw three first half picks and essentially cost us the playoffs?
Ah the memories....

It is amazing how many things are misinterpreted around here. Seriously.

Right. Because QBs are more valuable than other positions.

be nice to win a few games. besides DA never got to play behind a O-LINE like this so who knows how good he could be.......

Yeah, I really hated him going 9 and 6 that year and leading us to our best record since our rebirth. That sucked!!!

I also hated how he put up some of the greatest numbers in the ENTIRE history of the franchise, even before the rebirth. That sucked.

I hated how we scored so many points. That sucked.

I hated the POSITIVE national media attention. That sucked.

I hated actually looking forward to the games. That really, really sucked.

Man, y'all kill me.

2007 was a glorious season. It is story that cannot be told without Derek Anderson's successes. Unfortunately for us, Derek Anderson's story continued into 2008 and 2009 where he was Weedenesque. He then went on Arizona and was also horrible.

But we will always have 2007.

I think the reason for DA's failure in 2008 was three-fold:

1. The fans and media whined, complained, stomped their feet, threatened to petition the game, etc if BQ did not supplant DA as the starter despite DA making the Pro Bowl.

2. We lost a ton of key personnel that year.

3. DA was a physically tough guy, but emotionally weak and could not handle the criticism.

You are right. He bombed in Arizona, but he has played well in Carolina. Some say he has moved the team much better than Cam.

I thought the fans and media don't impact things.