|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,761
Hall of Famer
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,761 |
And I have ALWAYS maintained that Sheard is better suited to the 3-4 than the 4-3. Maybe, not so sure about that, but I do remember that you liked or defended Mingo over Sheard. That didn't work out very well. Mingo is battling for the last OLB depth chart spot with Orchard, behind Kruger, 7th rd A.Bryant and 5 time waived Solomon. Would you take Sheard over him now?
#gmstrong
"Players come along at different points in time" - Ray Farmer
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
And I have ALWAYS maintained that Sheard is better suited to the 3-4 than the 4-3. Maybe, not so sure about that, but I do remember that you liked or defended Mingo over Sheard. That didn't work out very well. Mingo is battling for the last OLB depth chart spot with Orchard, behind Kruger, 7th rd A.Bryant and 5 time waived Solomon. Would you take Sheard over him now? If Mingo wasn't injured, would he be battling for that spot?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,985
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 18,985 |
You're not allowed to use that word around here.
At DT, context and meaning are a scarecrow kicking at moving goalposts.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
You're not allowed to use that word around here. He did it first.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544 |
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 13,472
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Nov 2008
Posts: 13,472 |
Ouch, that's a REALLY crappy injury list for where we are in teh season (one game in).
People are blasting Pettine for running a soft camp, and I think he's learning that easing up in camp doesn't correlate at all with less injuries/wear and tear. Pettine needs to put this one into the 'lessons learned' bin and weather the storm.
There is no level of sucking we haven't seen; in fact, I'm pretty sure we hold the patents on a few levels of sucking NOBODY had seen until the past few years.
-PrplPplEater
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
Ouch, that's a REALLY crappy injury list for where we are in teh season (one game in).
People are blasting Pettine for running a soft camp, and I think he's learning that easing up in camp doesn't correlate at all with less injuries/wear and tear. Pettine needs to put this one into the 'lessons learned' bin and weather the storm. If we had won the first game, with all our players being healthy, people would say Pettine was brilliant for not riding his guys.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544 |
Ouch, that's a REALLY crappy injury list for where we are in teh season (one game in).
People are blasting Pettine for running a soft camp, and I think he's learning that easing up in camp doesn't correlate at all with less injuries/wear and tear. Pettine needs to put this one into the 'lessons learned' bin and weather the storm. If we had won the first game, with all our players being healthy, people would say Pettine was brilliant for not riding his guys. but we did not.
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,577
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 5,577 |
Suggs blowing out his knee is huge
SaintDawg™
Football, baseball, basketball, wine, women, walleye
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
Suggs blowing out his knee is huge It was actually his Achilles, which is even worse. He already tore the other one. He's 32, his career might be over.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
Suggs blowing out his knee is huge It was actually his Achilles, which is even worse. He already tore the other one. He's 32, his career might be over. Ouch I was under the impression it was his knee too. End of the ropes is actually a possibility there.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,475
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 17,475 |
Could be Miller Time for Suggs....
as in Jamir.
jmho and then there were NONE??? No safety, no MLB, no NT and now no OLB from their vaunted Defense of yesteryear!
Defense wins championships. Watson play your butt off!
Go Browns!
CHRIST HAS RISEN!
GM Strong! & Stay safe everyone!
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,886
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Jan 2015
Posts: 2,886 |
dont understand why Jason Babin is good enough for the Ravens but not good enough for the Browns to have looked at.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544 |
dont understand why Jason Babin is good enough for the Ravens but not good enough for the Browns to have looked at. baffling isnt it? i mean he is 35. just the age farmer targets....
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
dont understand why Jason Babin is good enough for the Ravens but not good enough for the Browns to have looked at. Because he is an injury replacement. Not many quality players readily available this time of year. Do you think the Ravens would sign Babin if Suggs was healthy?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,064
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 11,064 |
Wonder how the NFL can replace all the cheap shots he might have taken this season.
Big news. I will not miss him.
"Every responsibility implies opportunity, and every opportunity implies responsibility." Otis Allen Glazebrook, 1880
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
dont understand why Jason Babin is good enough for the Ravens but not good enough for the Browns to have looked at. This comment.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,870
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2007
Posts: 10,870 |
Browns acquire DB Don Jones via waivers; LB Scott Solomon placed on IR Posted 31 minutes ago Clevelandbrowns.com @Browns Facebook Browns add depth at safety The Cleveland Browns on Wednesday claimed DB Don Jones via waivers from New Orleans. In addition, the club placed LB Scott Solomon (knee) on injured reserve. Jones is 5-11, 195-pounds and in his third NFL season out of Arkansas State. Originally a seventh-round pick by Miami in 2013, Jones has appeared in 34 career games as a reserve and has logged 23 career special teams tackles. He appeared in five games with the Saints this season and has one special teams tackle. A native of Town Creek, Ala., Jones graduated from Hazelwood High School. Solomon appeared in two games and totaled one tackle this year. He sustained an ankle injury in the first quarter of the season opener and returned to action last week before the knee injury. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...36-fa60fe1354ad
You know my love will Not Fade Away.........
#gmSTRONG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
Browns acquire DB Don Jones via waivers; LB Scott Solomon placed on IR Posted 31 minutes ago Clevelandbrowns.com @Browns Facebook Browns add depth at safety The Cleveland Browns on Wednesday claimed DB Don Jones via waivers from New Orleans. In addition, the club placed LB Scott Solomon (knee) on injured reserve. Jones is 5-11, 195-pounds and in his third NFL season out of Arkansas State. Originally a seventh-round pick by Miami in 2013, Jones has appeared in 34 career games as a reserve and has logged 23 career special teams tackles. He appeared in five games with the Saints this season and has one special teams tackle. A native of Town Creek, Ala., Jones graduated from Hazelwood High School. Solomon appeared in two games and totaled one tackle this year. He sustained an ankle injury in the first quarter of the season opener and returned to action last week before the knee injury. http://www.clevelandbrowns.com/news/arti...36-fa60fe1354ad With as physical as Poyer is playing right now, I mean this kid is drooling to hit people it looks like when I watch him, and with Gipson dealing with his injury - maybe it wasn't bad move for this Jones guy.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Oct 2006
Posts: 17,024 |
I noticed Poyer a lot on Sunday.
In a good way.
LOL - The Rish will be upset with this news as well. KS just doesn't prioritize winning...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440 |
I will say that Gipson did not look as good as last year thus far
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Feb 2007
Posts: 13,358 |
Yeah Poyer played pretty well on D. We already have Campbell and Whitner. I don't understand why we're using a roster spot on Jones. Big time draft hype player who never lived up to any expectations in the pros.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 5,583
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Apr 2013
Posts: 5,583 |
So much for Dilbert I guess.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,163
Dawg Talker
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,163 |
Yeah Poyer played pretty well on D. We already have Campbell and Whitner. I don't understand why we're using a roster spot on Jones. Big time draft hype player who never lived up to any expectations in the pros. It could be as simple Jones plays better in O'Neil's schemes vs Rob Ryan. Farmer is simply taking a look at highest available talent. It's week 6. You aren't going to find pro-bowl caliber guys sitting on the couch. As for Poyer, I made reference in preseason he could have a breakout year similar to what Gipson had last year. Depth on this team is starting to take shape. Say what you want about Farmer, but the bottom of the roster has greatly improved. One of Browns biggest faults was the big drop off of talent when starters go down. It explains losses at seasons end. I think it is critical for Orchard and Shelton to continue improving. More pressure these guys can make improves others around. Both these guys have a high ceiling and that level of play is needed.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
One of Browns biggest faults was the big drop off of talent when starters go down. It explains losses at seasons end. And a team like the Ravens is the opposite. They have a ton of dead money on the cap. So when guys like Steve Smith or Terrell Suggs go down, they are screwed.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,163
Dawg Talker
|
|
Dawg Talker
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 2,163 |
One of Browns biggest faults was the big drop off of talent when starters go down. It explains losses at seasons end. And a team like the Ravens is the opposite. They have a ton of dead money on the cap. So when guys like Steve Smith or Terrell Suggs go down, they are screwed. Oh the dilemma of the draft and when to let vets go. Lot to be said how Seattle and New England structured their team.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Jan 2009
Posts: 42,413 |
One of Browns biggest faults was the big drop off of talent when starters go down. It explains losses at seasons end. And a team like the Ravens is the opposite. They have a ton of dead money on the cap. So when guys like Steve Smith or Terrell Suggs go down, they are screwed. Oh the dilemma of the draft and when to let vets go. Lot to be said how Seattle and New England structured their team. It helps when Russell Wilson makes something like $1.5 million, combined, the first three years of his career. Also, Tom Brady is somehow only the 14th highest paid QB. Stafford, Kaepernick, Cutler, and Alex Smith are all making more than him this season. He's only making a $1 million more than Sam Bradford. This is known in the sports world as "The Duncan."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,425
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Jul 2007
Posts: 3,425 |
sounds like its gonna be johnny ball for a few weeks
I`m good with Baker... Playoffs is good enough for me.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 73,440 |
sounds like its gonna be johnny ball for a few weeks unless he's suspended and it's Davis ball
"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 12,635 |
sounds like its gonna be johnny ball for a few weeks unless he's suspended and it's Davis ball I'm not opposed to seeing Austin. Who knows what's going to happen with Manziel, IMO, best to start prepping Austin.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 16,195 |
#GMSTRONG
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544 |
 so they have johnny listed as a WR? guess he is going to start at WR over Bowe?
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,825
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 30,825 |
I don't see JM listed as a receiver. What am I missing?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,167
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Sep 2006
Posts: 28,167 |
Nice to see Haden & Gipson practicing, especially if Poyer is hurt. As always is the case, when we have a position group of strength, we get hammered with the injury bug - year in and year out. The secondary has been super beat up this year, probably won't be all healthy until we're completely out of the hunt of anything meaningfull. As for Manziel at WR... they are listing the position before the name, not after... otherwise Marlon Moore is now at CB and Williams is positionless 
Browns is the Browns
... there goes Joe Thomas, the best there ever was in this game.
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544
Hall of Famer
|
|
Hall of Famer
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 4,544 |
Nice to see Haden & Gipson practicing, especially if Poyer is hurt. As always is the case, when we have a position group of strength, we get hammered with the injury bug - year in and year out. The secondary has been super beat up this year, probably won't be all healthy until we're completely out of the hunt of anything meaningfull. As for Manziel at WR... they are listing the position before the name, not after... otherwise Marlon Moore is now at CB and Williams is positionless oops. didnt look at it close enough lol.
being a browns fan is like taking your dog to vet every week to be put down...
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,468
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,468 |
Crowell as a DE would be highly entertaining
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 55,499 |
Why do we have three guys who didn't practice due to "not injury related" reasons?
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,468
Legend
|
|
Legend
Joined: Mar 2013
Posts: 52,468 |
Vets day off, remember. Except for duke.
Last edited by Swish; 10/28/15 07:06 PM.
“To announce that there must be no criticism of the President, or that we are to stand by the President, right or wrong, is not only unpatriotic and servile, but is morally treasonable to the American public.”
- Theodore Roosevelt
|
|
|
|
|
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 623
All Pro
|
|
All Pro
Joined: Dec 2014
Posts: 623 |
Maybe they are so good they don't need to practice.
|
|
|
DawgTalkers.net
Forums DawgTalk Pure Football Forum Injuries
|
|
