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Grossi is also in love with Shaw. He wanted Manziel to start so bad last year, then turned on him when it was popular to do so. But he loves him some Shaw.

I'm pretty sure I can throw the ball harder, faster, farther than Shaw.

I think Shaw is very smart, isn't he? Maybe they like surrounding Johnny with as many positive influences as possible

Reason enough to cut him.

No reason on earth to cut Shaw.. none

I do realize he's not on the 53, and I don't have a beef. I'm just saying I don't understand why he's here at all. If brains, work ethic, small stature and a weak arm were the qualities you looked for in a QB, my daughter could play for the Browns.

On earth? Really? Are you sure?

j/c...


Looks like Carey Spear is out and Travis Coons is the guy...for now. Wasn't Coons the one who couldn't reach the end zone on a kickoff?

Travis Coons, a University of Washington product signed by the Browns on Dec. 30, has apparently won the kicking job over Carey Spear.
Spear, a Vanderbilt graduate, was born in Mayfield Heights, Ohio and grew up in Highland Heights, Ohio. He was among those not at practice as the Browns made cuts to reach the roster limit of 75 by 4 p.m. Tuesday.
Coons went 1 for 1 on field goals, hitting a 41-yarder, and 3 for 3 on PATs through the first three preseason games. Spear was 2 of 2 on field goals, connecting from 47 and 36 yards, and 4 for 4 on extra points.

Link

That's odd, Spear did better based on the games, and was kicking farther on KO's. Coons must've been the leader in camp. Just read he has the stronger leg.

+1 felt the same

Holy crap, the Browns cut Phil Taylor... I know he hasn't lived up to expectations, but I didn't see that coming.

wow

Phil Taylor cut link

not surprised with us cutting Phil ... injured/unavailable most of the time.

sucks all of his salary was guaranteed tho

Whoa. You'd think he'd have some trade value.....and why did they get rid of Kitchen knowing Phil was leaving? We went from 3 NT's to one rookie.

Makes the 600K the Raiders guaranteed trich look paltry.

I like Pettine's take at least. He wasn't one of the best 53, regardless of dollars owed.

Meder just made the team.

This is key. I hope Mayle and Pryor are playing the next game like it is their last because they may be fighting for the last spot on this squad. I am a huge Phil fan but he just wasn't cutting it; Play like a Brown guys and you should be rewarded.

I have to assume that they know/think someone else will be cut that they can pick up. Or we're playing less 3-4 this season than we all thought.

yea. wonder if he will carry that over to Dwayne Bowe?

Not a surprise Taylor is gone. Spent too much time on the IR. I like Phil and I am sure somebody will pick him up. Surprised Pryor isn't gone yet, considering he has hardly practiced and hasn't played a game.

Just read over on the OBR that the injury bug might have bitten Mayle.

From Pro Football Talk:

"Per a league source, Taylor asked to be released, and teams already are lining up for a shot at the player who made his first game appearance over the weekend after aggravating a knee injury in early November."

How convenient ... IR him for the year

I'd prefer that to him taking the roster spot from someone else. So far, Mayle is a project. See if he can come back next year a better player.

Cutting taylor was a really dumb decision imo. I noticed during the Bucs game when him and shelton were on the line at the same time they couldn't run for the life of them. We cut kitchen so what happens if....or I should say when shelton gets hurt. This is cleveland its almost garunteed. I just don't understand this move

I really think that we will be playing less 3-4. Our d-line is strong and deep. Our Lb corp is fair with no depth. Just makes sense. And for the 1st time in a long time I believe we have a HC that does actually have some common sense.

Case Keenum will be the Rams' No. 2 quarterback.
Keenum has beaten out Austin Davis for the right to back up Nick Foles. With the Rams using (wasting?) a third-round pick on Sean Mannion, Davis will probably be waived. Keenum has some raw playmaking ability, but is prone to streaks of wildness/total ineffectiveness. He's a second-tier backup.

Source: Nick Wagoner on Twitter
http://www.rotoworld.com/playernews/nfl/football



Austin Davis is a kid from a small school who got some field time last year and actually did okay.

Per http://www.nfl.com/player/austindavis/2533349/profile

He started 8 games completed 63.4% of his passes and had 12 TD /9 int
Not bad playing behind a putrid Rams oline.

I saw some of those games. He looked very calm and collected for the most part and seemed to be smart. He definitely has some development to do though but seems like a hard worker. Biggest downside I can come up with is just an average NFL arm.

I would give him a look see. Definitely better than Pat Devlin. Personally, I think better than Lewis and Manziel. Right now probably about as good as McCown but he has a chance to develop and get better whereas McCown has reached his full potential.

shocked they cut taylor. unreal... as we still owe him money and and we need depth.

I honestly think Richardson must have been juicing in college. There is now way you go from being that dominant to being that putrid just from playing with broken ribs.

My theory with richardson is that IF and a BIG IF he was to play good you would have to play him behind a FB with good vision that he trusts to follow. That what he did in college and for a good bit his first year with us.

He's fine as a third QB you can keep on the practice squad. My bet is that he would only ever play in a short-term pinch.

I always liked thad even with his weak arm. I am glad we got him back as a back up for us.

You are the ONLY person who even challenged such ludicrous statements. That tells me a lot!!!!

If Bone says Hoyer is better than McCown, a bunch of guys rip him. If play says Farmer made a mistake by drafting Gilbert, he is ripped unmercifully. If I say that we should have taken Teddy over Johnny, y'all start crying.

But mac makes a negative statement about Banner and no one else says a word. Yeah, you guys are objective.

I wanna look at this post again.

Poor, poor TRich didn't do well because the poor little baby was traded. Am I supposed to believe that nonsense? Good God!!!

Then, mac says:



Fact? Really? No one but 05 challenges it? <<sigh>>

TRich has been released by two RB-needy teams in less than a year. We got a first round pick for that bum. And it is a freaking FACT that we did not screw over the Colts?

As 05 said, TRich missed a ton of holes in his rookie year. He averaged 3.5 yds. a carry and the other backs ALL looked better.

Banner fleeced the Colts. But y'all hate that guy and loved H and H. Weird.

I said I was hoping we would bring in Fred Jackson. I can see why we didn't. After all, Seattle has a worse team and their RBs are not as good as ours.

There are reasons some teams suck and some teams are good.

I take Banner and Lombardi over Holmgren and Heckert every time. When in doubt, go against the guys who drafted the 30 year old QB in the first round.

Maybe we didn't bring in Fred Jackson because Fred Jackson would rather play for Seattle?

Our scouting department and GM's have all completely sucked since 99. The jury is still out on Farmer.

I think the argument of who sucked the worse and by what margin is pointless. They all sucked.

I'm sorry for going off. It's just frustrating to see the double standards on here sometimes.

And I admit I am sometimes guilty of lumping everyone together.

I apologize.

With that said, I still say mac's comment was ludicrous and it is kinda crazy how it wasn't challenged.