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I actually saw this special last weekend. Focused almost entirely on a comedic interpretation of the Founding Fathers and the Constitution. Nothing groundbreaking, but a good set. I've always liked Colin Quinn.

nah.


PC has it's ups and downs. part of being PC is understanding that you aren't the only person in existence. the other side to that is we have to understand that we can't be offended by everything.

however, i noticed that a lot of people complaining about PC is the people who are mad that they can't spout their racist or sexist stuff whenever they want, however they want.

is it too much to say you don't agree with homosexual lifestyles? no.

is it too much to say that homosexuals should burn in hell because they are an abomination? yes.

I've posted before how someone connected an app to google chrome that whenever it recognized the words "political correctness" it replaced it with the words "treat others with respect".

It's pretty funny if you do it yourself while reading someone whine about words other people whine about.

I don't know that PC is the problem. I'd rather people stop being so over sensitive to everything all the time constantly. People are way too easily offended.

If people would just realize and accept that they have absolutely zero right to not be offended, it'd all be great.


You're offended I said something? Great... now, move along.

Pretty much this.

Agreed.

I've just realized this as a universal fact: Somebody, somewhere is going to be upset over something. We shouldn't oppress people, but we shouldn't be self conscious all the time about what we say.

I understand standing up for yourself, but getting into arguments and fights over every little thing is not healthy or sane honestly.

I don't know why some people insist PC is a serious problem. I'd rather people stop being so over sensitive to PC all the time constantly. People are way too easily offended.

PC has always been the norm in public situations, it was called manners and social behavior back then.

The difference now is that if you let something slip, someone goes off the deep end.

How far off the deep end are the ones who keep complaining about it?

Aren't they both the same behavior?

Used to be, someone called you out on it, you apologized or defended your position, and that was that.

Now...
We tweet it, call the news station, report it to the authorities, assemble a protest, and in the end we get JuJu Beans banned form public sale, all because someone said Mike and Ikes are better.


Edit: Changed the Chocolate and Vanilla ice cream example as it may be taken as a racial innuendo.

The problem I have with political correctness is how it has been combined with social media...

Back in the good ol' days, if you said something that might be deemed insensitive, you might offend a person or two in your immediate circle... heck, if it was bad enough, that person might take a swing at you, either way, it generally ended right there...... now, it will go viral, it will generate a flash mob of faux outrage, one comment can literally consume your life.

Recently a singer introduced his latest love song like this on stage... saying, “It is about trying to find that number one woman of your life, which none of you can relate to because most of you are girls. Except for the boys in here, you know what I’m talking about.”

Anybody got a problem with that? Evidently social media did, he is still apologizing and trying to recover for his "homophobic" comments...

The main difference is the internet. People love to A) be a-holes on the internet (see the death threats Kanye West got for making a rant while high on MTV VMAs) and B) be outraged at everything they disagree with on the internet, including the A holes.

I can't help thinking that the more people complain then the more pc outrage will continue.

It will run its course and most people will ignore the outrage and understand that people make a big deal for nothing.

Ignore it. It really shouldn't be a problem. Say what you want, if people complain, move on and don't worry about it.

The more people make a deal about it and give it too much attention, either side, the longer it will continue.

I think this applies with what your saying:

This:http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/01/world/auschwitz-holocaust-showers/index.html

jc

Are you talking about the same good ole day's when Jimmy the Greek was fired for making racial comments about black athletes? No social media then and he still couldn't hide.

And really was it the good old days when people could say and offend others without much of a consequence or backlash for being a total a-hole?

I'm glad we have the social media to expose people for what they really are. Yes the good ole days of hiding after being a total a-hole are long gone... thank god.

Not sure how this applies to me, but ok

jc = just clicking.

This was the best post so far.

It all depends on who is calling "A-Hole".

To many, the crying, whining, poor poor victim of everything in life who points out others as being A-Holes and has made nothing of himself but a helpless victim, is an A-hole.

just sayin'

And that's a shame. Back in the day, even the 'offended' party had enough manners to at least ask for a clarification before going off. If the 'offender' then doubled-down on the offensive comments, then it would be on.

Nowadays, everyone seems to skip that all-important step.

That's why so many are just shouting at each other in 2015. What they don't seem to understand it this simple truth:

"In a room full of shouting people NOBODY gets heard."

Yes.
See my comments above about 'shouting.'

Only problem is that only hard working honest, conservatives have to be P.C. and lib hypocrites can say anything that their little hearts desire with impunity....plenty of examples

Social media has changed the game, and there are two prongs to the fork, both of which are driven by market forces. On one end, you have business, which will go out of its way to protect relations with a potential customer demographic. On the other side, you have the media, which thrives on opinion conflict. If you can drum one up, you'll get your clicks. I see a lot of things these days where it's "Outrage Over X". Now, when you click on the link, it's like 7 people complaining on Twitter. But the article itself is enough to drive a comments section, thus creating an issue.

What I find that is often used as an excuse is the difference between political correctness and just down right being rude.

While I'm not for political correctness at all, I do believe that people should make some attempt at being civil. Using rudeness and name calling is a far cry from being politically correct.

Often times when people are simply being crass and rude, they say they're not being politically correct. WRONG! Those are two completely different things.

He said it on television.. that was the social media back then.


If you offended somebody, then that somebody had the option to say something about it or not... rather than tweet it out and get a million other nobodys, who had no context, to rally on your behalf...


What if it's not what they really are? What if it's taken completely out of context? What if it's manipulated to make a point? What if they were just having a bad day or were having an extremely emotional moment or a momentary lack of discretion?


And they have been replaced with a culture where you have zero privacy and your life can be ruined in the blink of an eye by a million do-gooders who have never met you... yea progress.

and see, here's the problem.

I would respond with "so only conservatives can be hard working and honest? I'm liberal, so that automatically means i'm lazy?"

I'm not offended, yet what i am doing is defending myself.

but that's when Erik and 40 will jump from the rafters and say i'm being offended and go on some rant about being PC.

See, even Swish can learn, lazy as he is...

At what point does it go over the top though? Justine Sacco wrote an off color tweet, apologized for it, and still got fired anyway. Trevor Noah is lucky Comedy Central didn't can him over the outrage of some of his tweets as a comedian. Lindsey Stone did something that was disrespectful, but thought it was within her inner circle of friends and family (it wasn't) and lost her job over what she did too. Adria Richards got a tech worker fired, and then she got fired too over the backlash. Victor Paul Alvarez, Adam Mark Smith, and countless others have been shamed, ridiculed, fired, or even had death threats sent to them. For making off color jokes?

I look at these people and I don't see total a-holes. I see people who have made dumb comments and are paying a high price. Perhaps you haven't made a dumb comment before. If so, I would contemplate that perhaps you are the only person who has not done so. I carefully filter what I put on the web because once it's out there it's out there. But as more and more people get into tech like facebook and twitter, that maybe don't have a tech background, they may not realize just how "exposed" their comments are. Does that make them total a-holes?

word on the street is you was too lazy to stop the fires cause you was running game on the ladies in your fireman suit.

They do love the gear. I could tell you stories on that one.
Especially when driving the Engine back to the station and
being followed...
Nevermind, Pope's comin'

The Pope has lived a pretty full life. I'm not sure you could say many things that would shock or surprise him.

Now see, this is exactly what I was pointing out. There's a difference in not being politically correct and being down right crass and rude.

People just try to hide the difference with the PC stamp.

I think Riley spoke his mind and I can agree with him.
You on the other hand are acting like my old spinster Aunt Nilly. Go poo poo someone else, there are kids in your yard!

Excellent post.

The same thing is happening with religion, where people have this mistaken idea that the Constitution calls for freedom from things they don't like ..... like religious expression, speech, and so on .... rather than protecting those very expressions as necessary to the growth and freedom of our society.

Too many people seem to think that the Constitution protects us from things ..... whereas it really protects our rights to do things.

Sawwy that i accidentally described you

I was talking to pit not you 40