Originally Posted by WSU Willie
Originally Posted by GraffZ06
Originally Posted by WSU Willie
Baker is not the problem. Next up will be the 'ole 'Baker can't lead a comeback' BS (not saying from you)...he did it TWICE yesterday in answer to the Steelers' last TD...TWICE!

Wait. I must have bumped my head. How many times did Baker lead scoring drives that brought the Browns from behind to ahead during the 4th quarter again yesterday???

Gaining some yards that don't result in points is neither an "answer" nor a "comeback".

That's the equivalent of a point guard that can dribble really fancy but can't actually shoot or pass. Nobody cares.

He can only lead the comeback (which he did twice in the 4th Q)...he can't throw it AND catch it. In any scoring drive, someone in addition to the QB HAS to make a play. He had the opposite of that.

Gaining some yards? Seriously. After the final Pitt TD, he "gained some yards" on two separate drives where we had the momentum and someone else made a mistake to stop the comeback.

If the point guard makes passes to the big guy under the basket and the big guy keeps fumbling the ball out of bounds, does that mean the point guard didn't do his part?

I don't think you understand what the word "comeback" means. Literally to come from behind and take a lead, usually at or near the end of the game, resulting in your team winning a game they were previously losing. No, a single player can't always do it alone. But in a league where all the rules favor offenses and passing and are specifically designed to facilitate close endings, the elite franchise QBs lead real "comebacks" fairly regularly, regardless of the team around them.

Yes someone else made a big mistake on two of those drives but there were other plays and other opportunities as well. It didn't happen. They didn't score, thus NO COMEBACK occurred. You don't just get to claim it out of thin air for funsies just because you like the guy. It either happened or didn't.

Sadly with Baker it doesn't happen a lot for a guy trying to get paid to be the guy who can do just that on a regular basis. You make your money and win your games in the 4th quarter.

And no, to your basketball analogy it doesn't mean the PG didn't necessarily do his part (though again there are other opportunities - maybe pass to someone else - maybe take the shot yourself etc) but you also don't get to give anyone credit for a comeback that didn't happen.