did you really just mention matt stafford? part of his "ridiculous" riches of pass catchers included a guy we just cut because we somehow couldnt get him the ball.

yall really hellbent on blaming everybody but the guy who has the ball in his hands every snap. yall are the football version of maga hatters. its everybody faults but the guy in charge. and when things go right, its all baker.

this crap is sad.

since the "other" side constantly has our fandom questioned, imma start going at you homers with the same energy.

some of yall posters seem to be a bigger fan of one guy than the actual team. yall will throw the entire team under the bus for one dude just because of his draft status.

here's a FACT for yall: baker STILL looks like ass even after OBJ left. but hey, its not poor little bakers fault. poor baby, its all his receivers!!! and then its chubb and hunts fault!!! and his lame O line!! and joe woods fault for making baker mayfield throw pick after pick every game!!!

im a fan of the team first. which means baker gets critiqued just as hard as anyone else. just like i go hard in the paint when stefanski screws up playcalling.

its easy as hell to route for baker during gamedays. but during the week? watching you guys make excuse after excuse makes it hard to just buy into him. first it was OBJ, now its the ENTIRE receiving core?

that nonsense is laughable. this man had obj, landry, hooper, njoku, chubb, hunt, and one of the best O line in football. THATS an ridiculous amount of riches. baker mayfield has pass catchers AND a dominant run game, something a lot of other QB's in the league dont have. so yea, its really easy to go "damn, if burrow his THIS, what would he do here in cleveland?". you can do that with a lot of QBs around the league. what would watson do with this? lamar, stafford, ryan, etc.

hell, i can credibly argue that our record would be better with mac jones as our QB. imagine your defense getting 4 picks in one game, and still losing the game. imagine your defense holding teams to 17 points or less multiple times, and still losing.

here's something for you guys who refuse to critique baker properly: we lose that broncos game if he plays. and yall wouldve blamed all the injuries and other crap for why we lost. case and d'ernest won that game, but if baker starts, a great defensive effort would've once again been wasted.

lol, matt stafford and mcvay can get obj the ball, but somehow we couldnt? ok.