Originally Posted by Bull_Dawg
Originally Posted by PitDAWG
[1]Calling and hiring anyone for something sexual is illegal. Massage therapists included. At least if you're going to call someone expecting to have sex, call someone that's actually known for giving you sex.

[2]Other players aren't being accused of unwanted sexual advances. It seems you're still having a problem separating consensual sex with unwanted sexual advances. The lack of being able to distinguish between the two obviously happens far more times than I had ever realized before.

[3]You have done everything but call Buzzbee an ambulance chaser and you claim I only point out the good? That's pretty rich.

1. Which is why he never hired anyone for sex, and no one involved in the legal case has claimed so.

2. I have no trouble differentiating. You have trouble with assuming which one happened based on hearsay and inherently biased witness testimony.

3. I admit that he's won big cases (that had slam dunk physical evidence.) You keep ignoring everything unsavory about him. Being an effective attorney doesn't make one an arbiter of the truth. I might be tempted to argue, that in general, being an especially "effective" attorney indicates the opposite. But I may have just seen too many episodes of Suits.

At the same time, if people want to hold the where there's smoke there's fire argument for Watson, why can't it be applied to Buzbee? Watson was at the top of his field with a sterling reputation until recently. Buzbee has been linked to scandals for decades (going back at least to his 2002 run for the Texas State House.)

Seriously, read the Texas weekly article (linked in the tailgate forum thread), tell me three concerning facts about Buzbee from it (there are plenty to choose from,) and maybe I'll believe you read it. Otherwise, I'll strongly suspect that you're specifically only looking for things that support the conclusion that you've already come to.

So far I've heard about oral and masturbation, did he have actual intercourse with any of them? Pit, I know massage therapists are supposed to be for massages only, but don't pretend men with money don't buy sex via that route. Sounds like Instagram is on its way to be a backpage/OnlyFans hybrid. I'm not sure what if anything DW actually did wrong, but he is sure as hell guilty of being a special kind of rich creep, right along with Robert Kraft. He knew damn well what he wanted when he called these women. Nobody will ever prove different. It's still too early to tell if he is also a predator, but 50+ different therapists is starting to damn sure paint that picture. Such a Browns' thing to do, give up the future to get this kid, then watch this take him down, and he never plays a snap. But what I actually think is going to happen is that DW will get his second chance after paying some kind of settlement on these cases. The whole truth will never see the light of day, and we fans will be left to trust whatever the FO puts out on him. He will play in Cleveland, and if he can keep it in his pants, he will have some success. But since we're the Browns, you have to expect him to get suspended, then do more stupid crap to get banned.