Originally Posted by 40YEARSWAITING
Originally Posted by OldColdDawg
Screw Putin, if he's going to use nukes there is nothing we can do to stop him that is not against our worst interest in the long run. You don't let thugs and bullies have what they want, or they never quit taking. A dead world would be better than one run by Putin era fascists.

Not true. We have the ability to find solutions that don't involve Nukes.

You have to allow the bully a way out when he has a gun to your head.

Or die.

Choose.

If there is a gun to your head, you're dead already... you're just breathing through it. Attempts to appease in the hopes that it means you're not dead is just weakness and fruitless, wishful dreaming.

Reagan would get on Johnny Carson and mock Putin, say that he's too weak and soft-backboned to seek peace and leave Ukraine.... and he'd be right to because he's smarter in that you give the gift of saying that seeking the peace IS him being the strong ruler. You get to take your shot AND publicly steer him to your goal while also giving him the face-saving words he needs to not escalate.

You do NOT give ground just because the freaking Soviet trash tosses out threats.