Nope ... we are just talking and having a conversation. There isn't a need to say he's guilty. *** But in conversations people communicate and say things that might not be technically accurate but convey the meaning and sentiment of a situation ... it's a lot like saying the USA is a democracy, when in fact the USA is a democratic republic.

I think there is definitely a need for some like yourself and Peen to try and come up with some technicality or argue a definition to try to say people can't say he's guilty. That'd be a you thing.

If he's not viewed and JUDGED to have been guilty of the actions he was accused of - there is no liable. You can define Libel vs a guilty VERDICT. . . but you can't get around what the jury determined. My revised statement is 100% correct.