Originally Posted by Swish
Originally Posted by oobernoober
Let me preface what I'm going to say by putting this down first....

None of this is possible without GOP being the dumpster fire it is right now. None of this is possible without McCarthy somehow being regarded as a turd by literally everyone he works with (not an easy thing), but yet somehow being pushed to the front of the Speakership line.

But something I feel that's lost in the noise is the fact that those GOP hardliners (Gaetz and co.) would not have been able to oust KM without a unanimous vote from Dems. This historic black eye on the House (and the ensuing chaos) is as much on Dems as it is on the wackadoos (if not moreso).


Honestly... what am I missing here?

Stop. This isn’t on the Dems whatsoever

Not what I'm trying to say at all. There are like a hundred different things that, had they gone even slightly differently, would've prevented this from happening. It's just kinda weird that the last thing that happened really isn't getting all that much discussion. This was a strategic move by the Democrats (vs rampant incompetence on the other stuff).