Originally Posted by oobernoober
Originally Posted by Hammer
You can thank the Great John Dorsey for that.

I keep forgetting that Allen was the same draft as Baker. I'm always thinking he was a year earlier.

GM says the FO was split between Baker and Allen but the majority favored Baker. I would bet money Depo favored Allen and that's one of the reasons he's still here.


It was "football guy" mentality that had much of the league down on Allen. People argued his dismal accuracy in college and claimed "that hardly ever improves at the NFL level".

I argued it did not matter and still can't believe we passed on generational talent.

Why did it not matter? Who cares about 2.4 passes per game (the difference between 55% completions and 65%) when...

You have someone who can throw all passes from all angles to all parts of the field.
On the run or from the pocket
With finesse or 60mph
Who can throw a ball through a brick wall
And can throw the ball 80 yards
Who can pick up a 3rd or 4th and 1 at a 90% clip

Who can run through a LB...
and then runs like Gronk in the open field.

This was literally the biggest miss in Browns history.