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#1946547 05/24/2022 1:10 PM
by bonefish
bonefish
There could be some changes after June 1st or before camp starts.

But for the most part I think the roster is set. Clowney was kinda of the final piece.

The big question of course is what will be done regarding Watson? We don't know that.

As you start to look around this is the time when everybody starts predicting wins and loses. In the case of the Browns it is pretty hard to figure that.

I looked a little at Brissett. IMO if Brissett were to play the entire year. The Browns would be close to a 500 team. A eight or nine win team.

We have a good enough defense and enough weapons on offense to accomplish that with the type of qb Brissett is. In fact he may surprise us because of the offense we have. He will not be expected to be exceptional. He can execute the basics and the team has the talent to play at that level.

You can never factor injury because it is random. So, you figure injury will happen and you look at depth. This is probably the deepest team we have had since the late 80's.

If DW plays nine or more games. We should be a playoff team.

I do not believe you can look into the playoffs till the regular season is over.

I am a believer in Berry and Stefanski. It is my hope they remain in place for a long time. I believe that when you have good people. They will get through tough times. Sometimes changes have to be made. But I am not big on firing guys. I think Tomlin and Harbaugh are both excellent coaches. I applaud the owners sticking with them. IMO it is necessary to do that for long term success. There will be ups and downs. It does not always mean you fire your head coach when things don't go well for a season.

It is my hope that the NFL will make a decision on DW sooner than later. However, this is a first time with this decision structure. So, I don't have a guess to what will happen.

No matter what does. The Browns will be a fun team to watch. We have plenty of guys on this team who are really good players.
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#1946628 May 24th a 06:33 PM
by bonefish
bonefish
Yes he did injure his ankle. Did it hurt him all year? Hard to say.

I am basing my comment on a interview I saw with Joe Thomas. Joe basically said Wills has the ability but he needs to learn that you have to be good with your technique on every play.

Wills is still a very young guy who is learning the ropes of the NFL. He has an excellent coach.

To be great it takes total commitment all year. Some guys need to learn that and learn what it means in preparation.

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#1946667 May 24th a 07:42 PM
by PrplPplEater
PrplPplEater
Originally Posted by bonefish

I can't say I agree about the receivers. Cooper is a proven vet. DPJ has gotten better every year. Last year Baker was a handicap. It was the rookie year for Schwartz. He got a serious concussion and missed games. When he did play the offense was a mess. Bell is a rookie this year.

Njoku and Bryant are both receiver type TE's. Our backs can catch the ball.

I kept reading this, waiting to come to the part where you reinforced your belief that our receivers aren't a gigantic unknown and potential liability, and I came away thinking that you're really just talking yourself into that notion.

There is Amari Cooper and a LOT of question marks and inconsistencies. That's it.
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#1946680 May 24th a 08:27 PM
by Iluvmyxstripper
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I think now the Browns have a borderline playoff caliber roster.
I'm kind befuddled though that in a league where offenses are
Built around QB WR TEs, the Browns go away from That
Method and really well stocked at RB but not WR

The Browns oline is good. But what 2021 taught me was
Having a top 8 oline guarantees nothing.
Willis is good but he needs to be great. Conklin needs to be great

I felt the Browns didnt do enough at WR in the off season
They are putting their faith in 2 guys (DPJ Schwartz)
Who really didn't do much in college
And now they are expecting them to make that huge leap
In the NFL.? If Cooper goes down , then what ?
Bell could surprise but can he seperate at this level right out
The gate ? Alot of Big 10 WRs struggle in their rookie years
Ohio St WRs are the exception

The Browns D has alot of fast guys who can cover
All areas of the field. I think their depth at LB could be
A issue though
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#1946827 May 25th a 03:29 PM
by PrplPplEater
PrplPplEater
OBJ was present, but he was never *REALLY* here. I completely discount his presence as he basically just occupied a roster spot. Beyond that, I wasn't talking pre-season speculation when I wrote that, but instead what the reality of that room actually was. We had THOUGHT and HOPED and EXPECTED that OBJ would be OBJ, but it was still unknown and unclear to us that OBJ just wanted OBJ to be in LA and not CLE.

We swapped Landry for Amari.
We changed Higgins to Bell.

Other than that, it's the same room. The absence of the one is the same as the presence of the one. Amari for Landry is a change. Bell for Higgins is still just as unknown as Higgins ever was. We have the same boat, different paint job.
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#1947484 May 29th a 12:43 PM
by Versatile Dog
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Hubbard is back this year.
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#1947488 May 29th a 01:15 PM
by WSU Willie
WSU Willie
I like Hubbard a lot as a backup...and it sounds as if he's a great guy to be around. He is the oldest (31) player on the roster other than Hughlett @ 32. He was out for the remainder of the season (injured) late in '20 (dislocated kneecap surgery) and early in '21 (triceps surgery).

I don't think 31 is "old" for most OL...but surgeries at 30 & 31...in back-to-back seasons...makes me nervous. One can't predict it (injuries) nor let it keep you from retaining a quality player...but there HAS to be some concern there. Hudson has a loooong way to go...but they seem to like him. Like most teams, if our starting OTs stay relatively healthy, Hubbard - and even Hudson - may be just fine.

Sticking with the OL for a minute: We should see Wills, Bitonio, Harris, Teller, Conklin as starters with Hubbard, Hudson the backup OTs. That leaves 2-3 spots for a slew of other guys...many of whom have proven to be pretty-good backups - Hance & Dunn specifically. We have a ridiculous number of backup IOL and even Hubbard can play inside at that.

After his one-game (?) stint at LT last year, I think Bitonio is - by far - the best backup LT we have...as a matter of fact, I think he's a better LT than Wills. We all know Bitonio is a terrific LG...but man...if he was our starting LT, we'd have Wills as our #1 backup (or our starting RT where he probably belongs). Replacing Bitonio at LG won't be easy or as equitable...but we have a lot of guys who could compete for that starting LG spot.

The OL competition in camp should be interesting.
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