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#2085192 09/29/2024 11:18 PM
by Dawgs4Life
Dawgs4Life
Disappointing
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#2085204 Sep 29th a 11:27 PM
by leadtheway
leadtheway
Sell the team haslam.. you had the right GM and you swapped out for downgrades across the board. Dickerson should lose his job tonight. We can't keep trotting this group out there. Berry has done ZERO to address, anyone with eyes can see that Jones, Hudson and Harris don't belong anywhere near an NFL roster, Losing callahan is the worst loss of this franchise, no other coach leaving has resulted in this big of a drop in production. We need to find some else.. Hell, give JT a chance if he wants it. He absolutely couldn't be worse than Dickerson. Our recievers leave ALOT to be desired. From catching, route running, to getting separation. they do it all towards the bottom of the NFL. So many issues on the Stefanski side of the ball and our pathetic media will never call him out on it. I'm sick of watching us get outplayed, outcoached and outhustled week in and week out. This team has no spark. You never believe they are just a play or two away from seizing the game. Instead you feel they are a play or two away from a blowout loss. Its simple, we are not any better than we were when Berry and Stefanski took over, in fact we are worse in alot of ways and we have yet to draft or develop a single impact player that the team can use to establish their identity. I will tell you we had exactly that with Baker and chubb. Its just disappointing so many people give this team the benefit of the doubt only to be smashed every single year.
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#2085247 Sep 30th a 11:30 AM
by mgh888
mgh888
j/c

Loads of good and on point observations which I want to highlight or echo. In no particular order.

3 people mentioned uninspiring - that's troubling both from a talent perspective and effort and attitude perspective. Couple that with looking unprepared and while not so much this game but others - KS still getting outcoached in the 2nd half of games when other HC's have made their adjustments ... very troubling and points to a coaching issue for me. We've seen a very strong history of having a solid first drive with scripted plays - maybe a good Q1 - and then losing the rest of the game and being out-schemed.

Someone said KS coached scared - but that's something else we have seen time and again. I don't think scared - but playing not to lose, being conservative. How many games with giant leads (3 scores) ended up close? A lot. The Stefanski supporters claimed it was a well managed game to reduce risk - but look around at winning teams and top tier head coaching and when they can, they step on the throats of their opposition. I'd like to see us do that more. We're aggressive on 4th down (because the analytics says to do it) but not anywhere else within the game.

Someone talked about no-one being to blame - I think it's about accountability and hearing the HC talk platitudes in the post game presser and saying 'on me' 'must try harder' doesn't cut it. For all the love Schwartz got last year - for example - he's calling some questionable defensive plays or the D in general is performing under expectations. And you'd like to see some passion and fire among players and coaches .... not week in week out. Not fake stuff - but when it's so chronically bad, and the attitude is pedestrian it's frustrating.

Amari - As much as I loved the acquisition and think highly of him, his play 2024 has sucked. Attitude appears to suck. Awful drops and body language. Sort it out.

DW played well - he showed some grit - he wasn't the problem. Are we going to see more of the same every week for the rest of the year?? It would be a huge huge improvement.

As someone said, we've lost to two really bad teams - games we gave ourselves a chance to win despite playing badly - both times shot ourselves in the foot and snatched defeat from the jaws of victory. Good teams or bad teams that are well coached find ways to get the W. Can't help wonder what Tomlin would have got out of the talent the Browns have had over the last 3-4 years. They consistently find ways to overperform and finish - while we don't. Very frustrating again.

Lastly - salary cap not withstanding - I think I am at the point where I think Berry has done a terrible job. Put aside the DW trade - there's more at play there than simply Berry ... but the WR position has been badly managed. Behind Chubb who was a Dosey pick, the RB's are below average. The OL has starters with a history of injuries and woeful depth behind them. . . . There are some hits in his drafts. Newsome and JOK probably the best ... but so many misses. Check them out .... https://brownswire.usatoday.com/lis...-browns-have-made-under-gm-andrew-berry/

With the improved play from DW - we can win some games with some improvement in other areas. We might not look so bad moving forward ... but a winning record is almost impossible at this point. Playoffs no. Another year gone while we wait till next year. Ugh.
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#2085359 Sep 30th a 08:00 PM
by Jester
Jester
Just wondering what the narrative would be like this week if the Nick Harris hold doesn't get called...

Browns win
Cooper with a TD and 121 yards receiving
Watson 257 yards and 2 TDs
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