Courtney Fallon‏Verified account @CourtneyFallon_ now 9 seconds ago

Source: Free Agent DB Justin Gilbert has been suspended by the Commissioner for the first 4 weeks of the 2017 season. Former 1st rd pick.

it seems like that's one draft pick that won't pan out

man.....such a horrible waste of talent. not the worst, but still bad.

Free agent? The steelers let him go?

Yeah, he didn't even last there six months before they axed him.

Swish said it best, what a waste of talent. His NFL career is over IMO. He's done nothing in the NFL except that one INT play.

What a screw up that pick was...

If only farmer had actually interviewed him, or got to know him.

How did we get anything for him?

Did they state the offense that caused the suspension.

Unfortunately the jokes on us...he made millions without doing squat.

jmho

Finally. Gilber's Break Out Season has arrived.

Man that ranks right up there with the worst picks ever by any team. Very physically talented, but something between the ears or in the heart was just missing.. What a waste.

Just think about the right track we could have been on with so many years of 2 draft picks. The Gilbert/Manziel and Richardson/Weeden are just an abomination (luckily we recouped a little with the Richardson one ... only to blow it two years later)

j/c

Honestly, why does anyone care? Gilbert will never play in the NFL again. Why? He never played when he was in the NFL!

I only care that in the sense that it was a wasted pick by us. And a high one at that.

Suspended from NOT not playing?

It's over! Sashi tossed to the curb whatever wasn't salvageable and then some from that era. Wasted pick no more!! It's very sad and painful. It's time to move forward.

Is there an anti bump button. Last night I was hoping for an anit bump button, and there's 3 more responses,

and now this one.

Got worried when I first read the thread title, had to try to remember who he was. I mean he wasn't even a Cleveland Brown for at least a full year, and that's before Pittsburgh cut him.

You can't be suspended from something you don't do anyways, or don't do anymore.
Like suspending Michael Phelps from the tour de france, or Lance Armstrong from professional boxing in the state of Nevada.

Maybe the ref's can lock the thread, to be an anti bump.

Or, maybe more people have more to say on this and want to weigh in.

Maybe someone should start a poll in the k9 consensus to either keep this thread going, or delete/lock it.
It is the slow season.

I don't know if this is true or not, but to me, Gilbert is an extra special type of bust.

Weeden, Richardson, Quinn, etc. were guys that kinda looked the part, tried hard, had their moments, but ultimately (for one reason or another) just didn't quite make it. Other teams, to varying degrees, have players that bust similarly.

In the case of Gilbert, it's just something totally different. The guy had attitude issues that (allegedly) completely took him off of other people's lists. We took him high without ever meeting with him, and his attitude issues basically keep him from seeing the field at all.

oober, the litany of squandered first round picks the past few years can make one nauseous but the daily double of Gilbert and manziel the same year is the dregs of awful drafting. doubt there has been anything even close to that abomination.

I just recall that day when Gilbert was drafted the slobbering and drooling over Farmer and Pettine like they landed the next great CB and how Gilbert was gonna lock down Brown and Green for year's to.come
Only 2 1st Rd picks of that draft are no longer in the NFL
Care to guess who they are ?

Why do you care if people respond to him being suspended? You don't have to read it if you don't want to.

JC
I wish the kid luck in life because he wasn't cut out for football.
All the god given talent and no heart or maybe more mental issues,
He escaped the heavy scrutiny because we had Manzel for that- Lol

And here's yet another one of our own the incompetent FO let get away.

Now you posted about not posting so it won't get bumped up...and it got bumped up...lol

I find it almost impossible to believe that we got draft picks for Gilbert and Mingo, from quality organizations like the Steelers and Patriots. That really blows my mind.

Mingo at least tries/cares. (I assume)

He walks away with 12 million gauranteed I believe. I mean that was his contract with us I believe.


I'd call him dumb, but he did make millions basically just practicing.

Damn.

I don't mean this in a super negative way.

But I wonder, 5 years later.

How much he has left.

I can be more forgiving of guys who don't live up to hype due to injury ... or even guys that, by all accounts, work hard and are good teammates

but guys like Gilbert who steal paychecks get under my skin

we are talking about Justin Gilbert? Gilber?

Wonder if it was Performance Enhancing Drugs. If they helped him get out of bed in the morning it would be an improvement.

What a waste

PEDs to help him get outta bed, omg bro hahahaha... way too funny.

I mean this in a negative way:

How much does he have left? Can't be used up by any stretch of our imagination . . . .

My "Performance" enhancing drugs help me get up

I took one of those pills once, but it got stuck in my throat ... woke up the next day with the stiffest neck

On $12M there'd be at least 10% taken right off the top for his agent. If he had a manager or management team, there'd be another 15%, so figure $9M before taxes. Then:

Tax Type.........Marginal Tax Rate...Effective Tax Rate..........Amount
Federal.................39.60%..................37.40%..............$3.365,801
FICA.......................2.35%....................2.41%............... $217,011
State..................... 5.00%................... 4.97%............... $447,168
Local..................... 2.25%....................2.25%............... $202,500
Total Income Taxes.................................................................... $4,232,480
Income After Taxes.................................................................... $4,767,520

Substract binge spending on clothes, cars, watches, sneaker collection & tattoos, mama's house, his own overpriced pad, stupid investments, making it rain & cases of Cristal, out of town trips with the posse, & leach money, and he's probably got about eighty bucks left. Maybe he put $40K away in an IRA, but who knows?

I simply meant in general. It seems like another media post making fun of Cleveland.

That's the way a lot of people feel these days when facts are reported. Why wouldn't it reflect more poorly on the Steelers who picked him up?

I don't think it reflects poorly on the Steelers. They gave us a 6th-rounder, iirc. That's a throwaway pick to see if the change of scenery and culture could help a guy that had the look and measurables of a starting football player. Given our situation with the FO, defensive coaching, and overall culture and attitude... that's not a terrible gamble on the Steelers' part.

We gave up a high first to draft him. We could rattle off the "who's who" of the people drafted after him in round 1, but let's skip that because you get the point.

I just thought it was funny how bugs made it sound like the media was picking on the Browns.

Sometimes you simply earn it. It has nothing to do with people making fun of you. You drafted suckey players, have a suckey record and people report it.

You get what you give.

I'm scratching my head here. My point was this guy is done why is this news?

Another simple story about another failed draft pick. I get Browns deserve every bit.

Maybe another report about Manzial drinking.

I agree and the fact Gilbert was probably suspended for a PED..(does anybody know?) it shows that Gilbert probably knows his playing days are in serious question.

Hope he saved some serious money as he starts his new life out of football. I hate it when I read about guys like Gordon who went out and lived the big life, not knowing that money is pretty easy to spend and hard to make.

The standard cut for NFL agents is 3%.

He was suspended under the substance abuse policy-- basically the recreational drugs policy. The PED policy is separate. http://www.cleveland.com/browns/index.ssf/2017/05/former_browns_bust_justin_gilb.html

Your percentages on what NFL agents make is way off. I have read that 3% is the maximum they can make off a players playing contract. Endorsement contracts is different. Maybe up to 10% on those.

The agent and agency is basically the manager. There may be some services fees for legal and finiancial services as an example, but it isn't anywhere near as high as you depict. Players aren't dropping 25% of their money to agents. All things considered, it's probably 6-8%, and those are the big money players. The average player rookie, 3%. Not many rookies get endorsement contracts. Agent rates are fair, to get good representation, and basic advice on life in the big money world.