Who's your late round sleeper?

jc

Some good sleeper candidates already mentioned in this thread, good work guys.

I particularly like Norwood as a bigger slot WR with WR2 upside. Some of the RBs mentioned also have a shot at making it in the league, but my man crush at RB is James White from Wisconsin. Guy reminds me of Fred Jackson or Alfred Morris, as in: he does a lot of things well, but none of them "wow" you or flash, but he has little to no weaknesses in his game. He is a well rounded 3 down RB and in the later rounds those guys are rare. He runs with a great mix of instincts and wiggle between the tackles and is not afraid to go in there, unlike some bigger name guys in this draft who look to bounce a lot of runs outside. He's very smart, plays situational football and is an aware and good pass protector too. I really had a hard time finding any negative in his game.
I think his low draft status is because of the deep class and the fact that he was on the same roster as Gordon. He's a big time sleeper imho.

Other guys that are slated to go later on day 3 but in my opinion have a good shot at becoming starters include:

ILB Bullough (perfect mash 2 down ILB at worst in a 3-4)
CB/FS D.Johnson (good FS candidate)
CB W.Aikens (small school press corner)
RG Trai Turner (not a ZBS fit although he has very good athleticism. Just pushes DL out of the way)
DE Urban...this guy is the perfect 5-Tech DE with the versatility to play in a lot of formations. Very underrated.
TE Crockett Gilmore...cool name, underrated game. Good blocker, like a 6th OL and has enough athleticism to work out as a receiving option too.

Some deep sleepers (probably UDFA) that I think have a shot at making a roster and more down the line:

ILB Morris...found him when I was looking at Kirksey's tape. Guy's a very, very good and dependable ILB
C/G Harrison...underrated big school blocker
G Fulton....see above

My VERY deep sleepers are two RBs:

Zurlon Tipton from CMU and Reaves from UAB.

It will be very hard for them to get a chance considering how crowded backfields are and how much the NFL depth charts get filled by name recognition (see McGahee vs Baker), but those two should get into a camp as the 5th/6th RBs and should make some PS. They looked like they belonged with the others when I watched them.

Some of you can never let it go. Shot after shot after shot after shot. Then, you freak when someone defends one of those guys and get upset when someone criticizes any move that H and H made or Farmer has made.

But yeah, we started it.

Let it go, man.

WR Jeremy Gallon and WR Devin Street I put 3rd round "grades" on and I bet I'm not the only one.

WR Chandler Jones from San Jose State is a guy who ai think will actually go late but is talented. Same with Josh Stewart from Oklahoma State. Both are slot guys.

C/OG Corey Linsley Ohio State I've been talking up all season.

NT Beau Allen from Wisconsin... You can see a big difference in their defense when he's in there and when he's not.

QB Stephen Morris from Miami is the best QB that will be taken outside the top 100. Casey Pachall has some skills too, but I think is less likely to fulfill his potential.

I really liked Adam Muema before I found out he was a crazy person.

CB Andre Hal from Vandy can be very good if he gets into a zone scheme. He uses strange man technique that leaves him trying to catch up.

LB from OK State is really slow but has special instincts. He's better than Borland IMO who is way overrated.

Oh yeah and one more OG prospect Tyler Shatley of Clemson is pretty good, too.

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QB Stephen Morris from Miami is the best QB that will be taken outside the top 100.

Don't really know any of the other people you mentioned, but Stephen Morris has never impressed me. I don't think he's an NFL QB. Not for long at least.

I don't think he's particularly accurate and he doesn't make good decisions.

How many QBs usually get drafted? Because I'd rather take the usual crop of 8 (JFootball, Teddy, Blake, Carr, that Eastern Illinois guy, MacCaron, Mettenberger, Murray) right off the back. Then Hundley makes 9. I'd rather have Conor Shaw. That's 10. Can't think of any other QBs in the draft right now. Didn't get a chance to watch the Southern Methodist QB.

But yeah, not impressed with Morris

Well, Hundley is not in this draft. I think I have Morris behind JM, TB, DC, AM, and that might be it.

He's not really a sleeper, but I wouldn't mind a 6th or 7th round flyer on Logan Thomas, QB, Virginia Tech. He's 6-6, 250lbs, runs 4.61, and appears to throw really well (yeah, it was a highlight video). Issues, according to the guys at CBS (Brugler, Rang, Prisco) are footwork and a resulting lack of accuracy. They also question his drive and desire.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/1691193/logan-thomas

Even if he's not a prospect at QB, he could be an interesting TE conversion project. Of course, that assumes he can catch the ball.

Logan Thomas: Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

j/c

I should have mentioned this player earlier. I hope he continues to remain unnoticed, maybe until the Browns are on the clock with their final pick.
Brock Vereen

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Has tiny hands,

Geesh .... his hands are 8 1/4", the same size as mine.

Now I have an inferiority complex.

I see, you got jokes.

That aside, all prospects have some flaws. Sleepers usually have more. I'm looking more at his potential as a pass defender rather than a turnover producer where bigger mitts would be an assert.

Actually, I never saw hands mentioned as a negative as far as a Safety is concerned.

Don't know about the rest of you but I continue to stumble on to players that I didn't know a lot about. Came up with this name while playing the First Pick game. Then looked around the web for information on the guy. I think he actually has top 100 talent but he's had some off-field issues. Then I got the specifics of his "criminal involvement". Three arrest between 2012 and 2013 season. 1 Complaint of public intoxication. 2. Peeing in public. 3. Providing alcohol to a minor. Those are not good things and they should be investigated and he should have to answer any questions to the satisfaction of a team interested in him. But we're talking a 20 something kid here.

Football wise this is a big strong physical fast WR. Does body catch a little more than he should but also shows he can pluck the ball and he punishes defenders once he has the rock.

Tracy Moore #1

Tracy Moore #2

Tracy Moore #3

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Logan Thomas: Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

Last year when doing mock drafts...I started taking a liking to Logan Thomas...as far as Cam Newton comparisons I thought OK he's going to go back to school and get better...wrong lol love the guy...erratic poor timing confused too easily iffy at best decision making...but with body and arm and solid running skill...he's going to get drafted on his frame alone...saw some mocks having him going 2nd or 3rd round...that's a bust if any...though if he indeed goes very late (where he truly belongs) he's a definite project...if he sits 2-3 years and learns he could be a solid pro...I would not mind him as a 7th round project pick one bit...

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Don't know about the rest of you but I continue to stumble on to players that I didn't know a lot about. Came up with this name while playing the First Pick game. Then looked around the web for information on the guy. I think he actually has top 100 talent but he's had some off-field issues. Then I got the specifics of his "criminal involvement". Three arrest between 2012 and 2013 season. 1 Complaint of public intoxication. 2. Peeing in public. 3. Providing alcohol to a minor. Those are not good things and they should be investigated and he should have to answer any questions to the satisfaction of a team interested in him. But we're talking a 20 something kid here.

Football wise this is a big strong physical fast WR. Does body catch a little more than he should but also shows he can pluck the ball and he punishes defenders once he has the rock.

Tracy Moore #1

Tracy Moore #2

Tracy Moore #3

You know he reminds me of...Greg Little with hands

seems to play tough doesn't get huge YAC but plays strong and appears to catch well...wouldn't mind him late either...who knows may even go in UDFA I'd def. Bring him in

His best chance to make the NFL is as a TE.

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His best chance to make the NFL is as a TE.

At 6'1, 215#? As a TE?

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His best chance to make the NFL is as a TE.

At 6'1, 215#? As a TE?

He was talking about Logan Thomas.

Name: Logan Thomas
College: Virginia Tech
Position: Quarterback
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 248 lbs
Forty Yard Dash: 4.61
Vertical: 35.5"

1) Jeff Janis WR Saginaw Valley St. Size and speed, apparently did well in post season practices/ game. 6'3 guys who run a 4.4 somehow stick on rosters.

2) Vinney Sunseri S Alabama, I believe he got hurt, he and Clinton Dix were the best safety tandems in college. Coached very well and has superb instincts , very underrated athlete IMO. I really think he will play on Sundays.

Some potential steals:

Colt Lystra-TE-Oregon
Aaron Murray-QB-Georgia
Devin Street-WR-Pittsburgh

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Name: Logan Thomas
College: Virginia Tech
Position: Quarterback
Height: 6'6"
Weight: 248 lbs
Forty Yard Dash: 4.61
Vertical: 35.5"

Sorry, your response was immediately after his post about Tracy Moore. My apologies for not quite understanding that you were replying to his comment about Logan Thomas.

It was just a bit confusing with your comment without any other clarification.

In regards to Logan Thomas, I agree... but only if he can catch. Anyone know if he was on Va Tech's basketball team?

If I recall correctly that's what he played in HS and was recruited as.

j/c

Philip Gains CB, Rice. I'm not sure why he is not being touted as a top 2 rounds guy. He's a physical, fast, huge corner. LOVE him.

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Logan Thomas: Looks like Tarzan, plays like Jane.

plays like olive oil not popeye

my late round guys are Denicos Allen and Connor Shaw...

I think both will have + NFL careers. Shaw has played with high expectations and has been a VERY large part of why South Carolina has been successful the past 4 years, and was a HUGE part of it this year as they played some VERY VERY good football, and were incredibly well quarterbacked.

Denicos Allen i think is also an underrated part of the Sparty defense this season that was one of the best in the game. Allen plays alot like a TJ Ward to me...just a little slower, and a little better as a run stuffer at the LOS between the tackles. With less quality outside the tackles...but the same style player

An update on Texas CB Carrington Byndom measured in at 5'11 and a quarter 177 lbs ran a blistering 4.33 40 4.37 official 38' inch vertical...here's a nice post pro day interview...seems well rounded and mature for a player...would not mind him late in the draft...Texas DBs seem to always do well in the NFL and the guy was mentioned as a 2nd round pick last year...not bad for a round 7 steal...interview below... Looks cut as well

http://m.youtube.com/v/cmxzCuHwues

Sorry I can't get the link to work just Google "Carrington Byndom interview" should do the trick lol

Brock Jensen -QB North Dakota State

Although I think Crowell is more talented as a runner I like this player, Rajon Neal, because I think he's a more complete player. Good size and speed. Runs inside and out. Displays pass pro skills and can catch with his hands from the RB position.

Not sure Crowell would embrace any role other than featured back. I think Neal offers quite a bit as a late round pick and he would accept whatever role the team needs from him.

Rajon Neal -RB, Tennessee

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Tom Savage QB Pittisburg. 6'4 230lbs

21 TD's, 9 INT's, 2,958 yards

Gil Brandt compared Savage to a player he scouted when he worked for the Cowboys. Troy Aikman after watching hin throw for 6 TD's againts Duke last year.

Mike Mayock also feels he could be a real sleeper in the draft due to his boucing around in college. He started his career at Rutgers but lost his job when he was injured and Dodd came in and played really well. Greg Shiano went with Dodd because he did not want to remove a "HOT" QB. Savage transferred to Arizona but while sitting out his transfer year Arizona hired Rich Rod. Savage is a pocket passer and did not fit Rich Rod's spread option attack. He then transferred to Pitt.

Strengths-
Has a cannon for an arm. quick release, moves in the pocket well, shows good ability to lead receivers, like Big ben has shruggged off defenders and extended plays, decent speed to escape in the pocket but not a threat to run the ball.

Weakness -
Needs to have better touch on short routes, passes hang when throwing on the run, relies heavily on arm strength to beat defenders needs to learn to move defenders with eyes and pump fakes, body of work is limited due to transfers.

Would be a nice project to draft in the 5th or later.

From what I've read,he's flying up draft boards to the point he was invited to the draft. I have to assume he's no worst than a day 2 pick now.