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Yep. As much as I want another CB to finish the back end of the defense, if we could get Lee, I would be thrilled with this draft. That would give us 2 impact starters, and a QB to develop.

And another first next year...

Yeah, an extra 1st and an extra 4th. Wow. if someone had told me that we would get Manziel and Gilbert, PLUS a 1st and 4th next year ...... all for the cost of a 3rd and a 5th ...... man, Farmer did a really nice job so far.

Obviously we don't know how these guys will ultimately turn out, but he sure appears to have hit the marks so far.

I still would rather have Watkins,but I'm glad they got a 1st and 4th for next year to work with.Pretty aggressive moves by Ray,and i can't wait to see what he does tomorrow.

Although I wanted/hoped for Watkins, I was not surprised at the trade down. I was surprised at the JFB selection. Really had me thinking they were going second round with the QB. What I do not think many are even considering, during the heat of the draft, is the financial aspect of it.

1- we save about a mil per position by dropping back to 8
2- we still save and gain the extra fifth year for the QB so we can red shirt him and still get 4 solid years to see if he can pan out.

That's going to be big savings on cap space later. Also, by taking a "potential" shut down corner, they cover themselves if they get in a bind and are unable to come to terms with what Haden is going to be asking after the Marshall contract.

Just some side thoughts as we move through the draft.

Go Ray, we still need a WR, OL, SS, and maybe a RB and DL depth.

Ravens take Mosley.

I hope that whoever it was who had concerns about him was right.

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Bandwidth stuff.

Ah. Never run into that before on any boards I've frequented. Was part of a thread one time that went on for over ten years and more pages than one could count....

They used to stop long threads at the most over-moderated board on the planet, the former official clevelandbrowns.com message board. Did it all the time, for whatever reason.

Yes they did. Great pick, but with Ozzie I expect nothing less.

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Looks like we could have Maziel if we want him. I'm starting to feel bad for Brady... er... Johnny.

The next team that has any need at QB is the Cardinals at 20.

I'm betting we are calling every team trying to trade up with the same package. Just waiting on someone to take it.

im starting to get this feeling too.

crap...RAvens get Mosely. I had outside hopes we d get him and bump Robertson out of the starting lineup

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I wish I had a dollar for every time they mentioned JOHNNY MANZIEL during this telecast.

JOHNNY MANZIEL
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JOHNNY MANZIEL

I know! They really have a hard on for the guy. Can't understand why. Weird.

So they can crush him when he makes his meteoric fall. Or crow to the heavens if he turns into Elway.

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I wish I had a dollar for every time they mentioned JOHNNY MANZIEL during this telecast.

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I know! They really have a hard on for the guy. Can't understand why. Weird.

A WHAT YOU SAY?

Jets could .... but they just drafted Smith, and signed Vick. I think that they have other pressing needs. It would surprise me to see a QB here. I don't think that they are done with Smith yet.

My guess is Lee.

I think that they go DB here ...... that's a huge need for them.

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I think that they go DB here ...... that's a huge need for them.

Agree - has to be DB or WR

I swear all this waiting around for our next pick is actually aging me!

Man, painful!

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I could see KC taking a QB to backup smith

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/05/5004154/possibility-that-chiefs-could.html

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Ravens take Mosley.

I hope that whoever it was who had concerns about him was right.

Yep. Let's hope that he was just overcoached by Saban and tanks like other Bama players.

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I see KC taking a QB to backup smith

http://www.kansascity.com/2014/05/05/5004154/possibility-that-chiefs-could.html

Could be, if they are really concerned about not being able to resign him.

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Ravens take Mosley.

I hope that whoever it was who had concerns about him was right.

Yep. Let's hope that he was just overcoached by Saban and tanks like other Bama players.

He's already making less money than he did at bama lol.

If Johnny Football is there,they will grab him.

they took pryor according to cbs

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I think that they go DB here ...... that's a huge need for them.

Bingo. Calvin Pryor.

Johnny Manziel might have to shave again.

I hate the Ravens and Steelers but they do know how to build a 3-4 defense. LINEBACKERS. And they both just got better. Of course having a great secondary is important too. And ours got better big time this year....

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I think that they go DB here ...... that's a huge need for them.

Agree - has to be DB or WR

Yep - Good pick for the Jets...

I think that it's obvious that we are very likely to be able to get one of Bridgewater, Manziel, or Carr at 26.

Will yall knock it off with picks before the call? Lmao

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Will yall knock it off with picks before the call? Lmao

Hey! I waited this time to say the name - haven't even said it yet

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Will yall knock it off with picks before the call? Lmao

Freaking you out, huh?

LOL

Actually, when I said the Jets were going DB, it was more an opinion of what they need.

Phins need OL Kwonjo or however you spell it

I hope it's Bridgewater, but I'm thinking Carr.... but I wouldn't bet on it.

Manziel would put us back on the map, at least for awhile...

I'm guessing Miami goes OL here...

Marqise Lee or Kelvin Benjamin maybe at 26?

looks like a lot of people were right about the lack of true talent in this years QB picks. Exactly how I felt. But a CB???

Im starting to like our options at 26..... Clinton Dix, Manziel and Bridgewater all on the board. Not to mention a crap ton of wideouts.

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Will yall knock it off with picks before the call? Lmao

Hey! I waited this time to say the name - haven't even said it yet

yea why you making me wait?

A point to consider... 1st round picks have 5 year contracts.. 2nd round have 4 year... if you really want a starter long term.. you want a 1st rounder.. so question is.. do you want Manzell or Bridgewater if you take them in second round..

just looking to future and what an early second round pick would mean.. or could we package picks for a third 1st round pick

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DO NOT MOVE UP

AMEN

The 5th year is an option, so it would be useful to have that with a rookie QB.

Seattle is going to have to upgrade Russell Wilson's contract in 2 years, where if he were a 1st rounder, it would be 3. It has its advantages.

think they wanted a CB all along.. remember.. tried to trade for Revis.. tried to sign Cromartie

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DO NOT MOVE UP

AMEN

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Marqise Lee or Kelvin Benjamin maybe at 26?

looks like a lot of people were right about the lack of true talent in this years QB picks. Exactly how I felt. But a CB???

I've been saying it for months and months....

Manzel or Bridgewater at 26 would be good I still want xavier

We could probably move back into the late first for our second and one of thirds. I would be okay with that.

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think they wanted a CB all along.. remember.. tried to trade for Revis.. tried to sign Cromartie

Sounds about right. I looked at a few mocks and Gilbert was 10 twice and 18 on another (though it was Prisco).

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We could probably move back into the late first for our second and one of thirds. I would be okay with that.

we can probably stay put and draft one of them with our 2nd round picks

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We could probably move back into the late first for our second and one of thirds. I would be okay with that.

We might even be able to get Seattle's first for our 2nd and that 4th from Buffalo. I have heard that they are trying hard to get out of the 1st round.

Saints trade up to Cards spot.

saints traded up

Who the hell do the Saints want to move up for

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saints traded up

Yes.

I would guess a receiver ..... but who knows?

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We could probably move back into the late first for our second and one of thirds. I would be okay with that.

We might even be able to get Seattle's first for our 2nd and that 4th from Buffalo. I have heard that they are trying hard to get out of the 1st round.

Saints trade up to Cards spot.

or Buffalo's first next year and a 3rd this year

Maybe saints want Dennard before GB?

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I think that it's obvious that we are very likely to be able to get one of Bridgewater, Manziel, or Carr at 26.

And if we pass on qb here too?

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We could probably move back into the late first for our second and one of thirds. I would be okay with that.

we can probably stay put and draft one of them with our 2nd round picks

We get the fifth year contract option if we take them in the first. That is worth trading up.

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saints traded up

Yes.

juwan james a 1st round pick for Phins. hehe. good luck with that miami.

too bad we need them to beat buffalo

my guess...

a QB to sit behind Breese he is 35

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I would guess a receiver ..... but who knows?

tight end?

Or maybe a WR?

No way.

Saints take WR Brandon Cooks.

(Sorry whoever was freaked out by the early picks)

cooks would be ideal

Saints just moved up to 20.

Cards get a 3rd (91st overall) to trade back.

Grossi and McManamon report that OT Taylor Lewan was Browns target at 11.

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Cards get a 3rd (91st overall) to trade back.

If that's what it costs I expect that we will move up.

Guess I'm a little slow posting

Wonder what the price was that we weren't willing to pay.

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Grossi and McManamon report that OT Taylor Lewan was Browns target at 11.

that makes sense...

who does GB take?

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Grossi and McManamon report that OT Taylor Lewan was Browns target at 11.

that makes sense...

I am not sure where Lewan plays for Tennessee. They have a pretty good o-line. Roos, Oher, Levtire, and Warmack. Where does Lewan play?

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Wonder what the price was that we weren't willing to pay.

Probably that 1st we just picked up, and a 2nd or so next year. (plus 26)

I'm glad we didn't trade up then. Lewan is a dirtbag of a human being and I would have a hard time rooting for him.

I changed that, and I think that might have been the case, because 26 to 11 is a huge jump.

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Cards get a 3rd (91st overall) to trade back.

With such a rich crop of WRs, why would you trade up for one with the exception of Watkins.... Dumb move by the Saints if you ask me.

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who does GB take?

Dennard or Clinton-Dix? Nix, Amaro or Su'a-Filo possibly.

ok now gb picked... who does KC take?

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who does GB take?

Dennard or Clinton-Dix? Nix, Amaro or Su'a-Filo possibly.

good call on dix

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ok now gb picked... who does KC take?

I HOPE they take Johnny.

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ok now gb picked... who does KC take?

I'm thinking they pick Lee...

OK, so much for the dream that we could have him fall to us at 26.

Wow, that's some suit.

Eagles will take Denard imo. They have no need of a QB no matter how much Mayock is boning for JFF here.

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OK, so much for the dream that we could have him fall to us at 26.

Wow, that's some suit.

I don't get his name - is Ha Ha a nickname or his real name?

philly up

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ok now gb picked... who does KC take?

A WR, an OG, or an FS............imo.

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OK, so much for the dream that we could have him fall to us at 26.

Wow, that's some suit.

I don't get his name - is Ha Ha a nickname or his real name?

hasean

His real name is Hasaun or something like that. HaHa is a nick name.

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Eagles will take Denard imo. They have no need of a QB no matter how much Mayock is boning for JFF here.

Maybe Roby.

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ok now gb picked... who does KC take?

They're talking about trading Flowers, that makes Dennard an option. I could see QB or Lee as well. Yankey longshot...

I called Manziel to Philly in my first mock...changed it in #2...maybe I shouldn't have? For some reason Benjamin to Eagles makes sense to me.

Gotcha - thanks...

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His real name is Hasaun or something like that. HaHa is a nick name.

I really though it was an intern trolling.

Its Philly first... Id guess WR. Allen Robinson

I could see Roby here. I'm as big an tOSU fan as there is, but I personally would just chalk it up to a wasted pick if we drafted Shazier or Roby.......great athletes, but not great football players.

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Its Philly first... Id guess WR. Allen Robinson

I think they pick Xavier...

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Its Philly first... Id guess WR. Allen Robinson

I understand.

But the question was "who does KC take".

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I could see Roby here. I'm as big an tOSU fan as there is, but I personally would just chalk it up to a wasted pick if we drafted Shazier or Roby.......great athletes, but not great football players.

I was thinking Roby might go to Cincy

who do we pick now???

Anyone else hate Mel Kiper more and more every year?

I think that Philly goes Roby, then the Chiefs could go QB, If they do, that could convince the Browns to grab their guy at 26. If not, then I think they try to get back into the bottom of the 1st round.

Wait! We're on the clock?

Browns just moved up!

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I could see Roby here. I'm as big an tOSU fan as there is, but I personally would just chalk it up to a wasted pick if we drafted Shazier or Roby.......great athletes, but not great football players.

There's no worries on Shazier, he's a Steeler.

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Its Philly first... Id guess WR. Allen Robinson

I understand.

But the question was "who does KC take".

Browns ON THE CLOCK!!!

Oh Jeeze !

GOtta be a QB

Browns trade up. PLEASE don't let it be tiny....

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Browns just moved up!

Damn.

Browns traded up......better be JFF

Well, here we go. Gotta be the QB here, yeah?

Marquise Lee IMO

his name is Ha'Sean.. Ha Ha is his nick name..

I hope we go Bridgewater ...... but .......

who knows?

Manziel is a huge risk/reward guy for a 1st year regime.

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Browns traded up......better be JFF

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Browns traded up......better be JFF

Do you really want the smallest QB in the league?

Is Kevin Costner calling the shots? Lol

PLEASE DONT!

Johnny Cleveland Football!!!

YESSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSSS

SHOW ME DA MONEY!!!

We got Bo Callahan!

We gave up 26 and a 3rd.

It's Johnny time. Whew ... big time risk/reward guy here.

Well there you go. You guys got your wish. We now have THE smallest quarterback in the league.

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Browns traded up......better be JFF

JFF!

JOHNNY FOOTBALL!

Wow... This 1st Round for us...

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Browns traded up......better be JFF

Do you really want the smallest QB in the league?

I guess so.

Ugh!

Same spot we drafted Quinn and Weeden.

im so pumped!!!!!

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Ugh!

Same spot we drafted Quinn and Weeden.

third times the charm bro

Best of Luck Johnny Football

NO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Well, this puts us in the spotlight... at least.....

I'll be behind him though, and stop my negativity.

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Anyone else hate Mel Kiper more and more every year?

Nope,hated him equally from the start.

Another cluster flop for Cleveland. Traded away our 5th round and 3rd round pick to take the second best CB in the draft and the tiniest QB in the draft.

Was Kevin Costner making the picks for us?

I've waited so long for this crock.

3rd times the charm ..

I just hope that he is the great player that so many think he is.

he worries me a bit ..... but he is an exciting player. He does have huge hands, which is a trait he shares with Wilson, who was a smaller QB who has found success.

Time to trade Hoyer. No reason to have him on the team. Johnny is the man now. And having the smallest QB in the league insures he'll never get hurt.....

It's a boom or bust pick, BUT we didn't make it at 4. I'm OK with it.

Glad I already have his autorgaph

man my facebook and phone just blew up as well!

Spirit, I'm a little confused. Do we have the smallest QB in the league now or what?

I hope to God he becomes a football god here in Cleveland.

I would have picked Bridgewater.

This is a Haslam pick, me thinks.

Let's enjoy the hype while it's here.

I'm happier with it at 22 vs 4

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Best of Luck Johnny Football

Yep...Hope he is the real deal,or it's failed project #1,234,678 Get it done kid.

How's that hopey changey thing working out?
We will all know by week 6.
I think this guy is going to get broken quickly in this division. JMHO.

Did not want him but I am his #1 fan now. I sure hope you guys are right that love him .

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Time to trade Hoyer. No reason to have him on the team. Johnny is the man now. And having the smallest QB in the league insures he'll never get hurt.....

on the brighter side of things. 2 first round picks next year if he doesn't work out.

That's hilarious. Sal Paolantonio on ESPN just said that a homeless guy told Haslam to draft Johnny Football, so he did. LOL That's just about what I thought.

I hope that he becomes a great QB here in Cleveland.

There are reports that we wanted the receiver the Saints took, so Manziel was next on our board, and we went to get him.

An Auburn DE comes off next, and the air goes out of the building. LOL Not as exciting a player as Manziel, that's fot sure.

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Spirit, I'm a little confused. Do we have the smallest QB in the league now or what?

Yes we do. We now have the smallest QB in the league. 5'11 and just a HAIR over 200 lbs. And with his stature he can't add much weight. So that's his size give or take a few lbs for his career. Facing the Steelers and Ravens twice a year. I hope I'm wrong. I hope he's this great QB all these talking heads insist he is. But MAN is he tiny. The woman interviewing him on the red carper was bigger. Not just taller but BIGGER. We shall see.

This will be the day that we remember that changed the organization folks. They may hold him back for a year to develop but this is going to be the guy. Finally, we re going to have a true gamechanger at QB.

Hoyer will start and Manziel will learn from him. He will have a big time playbook and the need to catch up to the speed of the nfl. Hopefully shanahan and Hoyer can bring him along correctly. Damn, I rather like our first two picks. I didn't want the others except for Garapallo

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Time to trade Hoyer. No reason to have him on the team. Johnny is the man now. And having the smallest QB in the league insures he'll never get hurt.....

on the brighter side of things. 2 first round picks next year if he doesn't work out.

That's what i'm thinking, it was a risk but with a really good backup plan.

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That's hilarious. Sal Paolantonio on ESPN just said that a homeless guy told Haslam to draft Johnny Football, so he did. LOL That's just about what I thought.

Haslam is a businessman, first and foremost, I think this is his pick. He knew Johnny would fill seats and all of us into football would be watching.

Wow SU-PRISE SU-PRISE ... a little Chuck Berry ... Johnny be good

Browns are reportedly working on a trade to get back into the 1st again. (maybe with Seattle?)

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Browns are reportedly working on a trade to get back into the 1st again. (maybe with Seattle?)

Only reason I haven't gone to bed... as friggin active as we've been I wouldn't be surprised if we got back in the first... but who are we targeting?

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Browns are reportedly working on a trade to get back into the 1st again. (maybe with Seattle?)

The Powers that be can redeem themselves with me by taking Carlos Hyde.

Probably a WR

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This will be the day that we remember that changed the organization folks. They may hold him back for a year to develop but this is going to be the guy. Finally, we re going to have a true gamechanger at QB.

Weeden was a gamechanger. Just not in a good way.

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Browns are reportedly working on a trade to get back into the 1st again. (maybe with Seattle?)

The Powers that be can redeem themselves with me by taking Carlos Hyde.

No RBs should be taken until middle of the 2nd. And not by us at all.

Love seeing some Bengal fans upset because they wanted Manziel. Realizing Dalton just ain't it.

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Browns are reportedly working on a trade to get back into the 1st again. (maybe with Seattle?)

The Powers that be can redeem themselves with me by taking Carlos Hyde.

I was thinking about Hyde... or maybe a WR... is Lee still on the board?

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Weeden was a gamechanger. Just not in a good way.

I need to borrow that...

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Hoyer will start and Manziel will learn from him. He will have a big time playbook and the need to catch up to the speed of the nfl. Hopefully shanahan and Hoyer can bring him along correctly. Damn, I rather like our first two picks. I didn't want the others except for Garapallo

Sure lets let Hoyer play this year. And if we go 9-7 or 10-6 then what? I get to hear next year how Hoyer "earned" the starting position and Johnny will just sit there, right?
Because we sure as hell don't need players to actually take the field. Having a QB sit on the bench will gets us more wins.....

NO. You draft a high profile player like JFF he STARTS. You live with the growing pains and hope he learns the West Coast QUICKLY, If he's such a great QB he shouldn't have any problems. JFF better PRAY Gordon stays healthy and doesn't do something stupid. And he better pray they get another RB.

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Browns are reportedly working on a trade to get back into the 1st again. (maybe with Seattle?)

Browns probably are working on giving away our two first round picks next year to get back in the first round this year. They need a do-over in my humble opinion.

Mark this on your calendar. The day I said Johnny Bust Football. He'll never make it. He'll never last.

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Probably a WR

Lee please

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Probably a WR

If a Wr, Lee would be my guess.

Trade up to get Lee ?

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Browns are reportedly working on a trade to get back into the 1st again. (maybe with Seattle?)

Only reason I haven't gone to bed... as friggin active as we've been I wouldn't be surprised if we got back in the first... but who are we targeting?

Maybe another CB, given the way they are coming off the board. WR could be a target though. Maybe Lee or Benjamin to go with Gordon?

Browns trading up to the first round again?

talk about big moves.

I wish that Farmer wasn't so nervous and hesitant.

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Weeden was a gamechanger. Just not in a good way.

I need to borrow that...

Feel free to use it as your own.

How many "favorite players in the draft" can Mayock have? LOL

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I wish that Farmer wasn't so nervous and hesitant.

Yep.

Next year I'll know to have a seatbelt installed on my recliner. I've almost gone thru the windshield a time or 3 tonight.

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Anyone else hate Mel Kiper more and more every year?

ME!

lol...

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We have Manziel, we don't need a RB.

Yeah I guess he will eventually take a beating too.

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I wish that Farmer wasn't so nervous and hesitant.

Yep.

Next year I'll know to have a seatbelt installed on my recliner. I've almost gone thru the windshield a time or 3 tonight.

At least I haven't felt it necessary to throw anything at the TV. I am worried about Manziel ..... but hopeful. I probably would have taken Bridgewater ..... but what do I know? lol

I can just imagine Manziel running around like a madman, dodging tackles, looking for a receiver who is open to throw to and he throws it to Little. And Little drops it.

I think they should stand pat and/or only trade up to 31 or 32....don't want to give up that other 3rd

Our draft is over. Now the mop up of the 'also rans' begins. Getting into the back-ups, bench-warmers and practice squad guys.

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I can just imagine Manziel running around like a madman, dodging tackles, looking for a receiver who is open to throw to and he throws it to Little. And Little drops it.

If we draft another WR, Little may not make this team.

We added Hawkins and Burleson. Add a guy like Lee on top of that and Little's days could be numbered.

I'd really love to get Lee, but I can't see him getting past the Panthers.

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I think they should stand pat and/or only trade up to 31 or 32....don't want to give up that other 3rd

Same. If they only have to give up a fourth I am good with that.

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Next year I'll know to have a seatbelt installed on my recliner. I've almost gone thru the windshield a time or 3 tonight.

That presupposes Farmer will BE here next year.... With this team that's very far from a certainty. If JFF goes out and gets killed game one against the Steelers Farmer may not survive for week 2.... I don't see Haslam as a patient owner.

Might make sense for the Cards to grab a QB here to groom.

Derek Carr does not NOT look happy.

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Derek Carr does not NOT look happy.

he'll have to root for buffalo

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Derek Carr does not NOT look happy.

he'll have to root for buffalo

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Derek Carr does not NOT look happy.

wonder if he's worried Houston might pick him....

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Derek Carr does not NOT look happy.

he'll have to root for buffalo

Maybe it is destiny to Houston to make up for his brother's failure

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Derek Carr does not NOT look happy.

I'm surprised he showed up. McShay graded him out to be a 3rd or 4th rounder.

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Derek Carr does not NOT look happy.

wonder if he's worried Houston might pick him....

Houston goes teddy.

Pats will trade out of their selection. Probably to us.

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Derek Carr does not NOT look happy.

I'm surprised he showed up. McShay graded him out to be a 3rd or 4th rounder.

Isn't Carr at home with a camera there?

Sorry, not watching. I assumed he was in the green room.

For some reason, I have the Cubs v. White Sox game on.

As long as we didn't draft him I'm good. Carr was the guy I just flat out didn't want. He panics under pressure ala Brandon Weeden. I'm sick of soft QBs who don't have the sack to handle the pressure.

I wonder if we might be able to make a trade with the Pats here?

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I wonder if we might be able to make a trade with the Pats here?

What's your thinking?

OL? or WR?

Pats pick is in - no trade

2nd and a 4th to guarantee we get Lee??? I would be happy with that.

Guess not. Looks like the Pats make their pick. Kinda surprised that they didn't trade back, with those QBs there, and with us probably looking to move back up.

With Gronk done, the more I think of it, they'll take Lee here.

Seahawks or San Fran could both be looking at Lee...

or Denver

Yeah if they don't I bet the niners do. If Lee is off the board we are smart just to set at 35 and wait until tomorrow. I suppose we could move up to make sure we get Moses ahead of the Skins, but I would probably just wait for my guy to come to me.

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or Denver

I thought that - but they have a ton of need on the defensive side... I'd be surprised if they went WR with their first pick....

sounds like a good pick for NE

I don't get it...reach

good player but not in first especially for their defense

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Next year I'll know to have a seatbelt installed on my recliner. I've almost gone thru the windshield a time or 3 tonight.

That presupposes Farmer will BE here next year.... With this team that's very far from a certainty. If JFF goes out and gets killed game one against the Steelers Farmer may not survive for week 2.... I don't see Haslam as a patient owner.

I don't like the Manziel pick, but I'll say this: If Manziel is on the field week one over Hoyer, Young or even Thigpen we're in serious trouble. My main knock on this guy after his swelled head was his size.

Definitely happy with the Gilbert pick though.

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That's hilarious. Sal Paolantonio on ESPN just said that a homeless guy told Haslam to draft Johnny Football, so he did. LOL That's just about what I thought.

Haslam is a businessman, first and foremost, I think this is his pick. He knew Johnny would fill seats and all of us into football would be watching.

So Johnny will fill seats if he's not playing?

So are we gonna be faced with "Johnny, Johnny" chants every time Hoyer makes a bad play? Damn, every QB in the league makes a bad play too, but will they have to endure the chants for the backup like we will?

I think the pick was a mistake....time will tell.

Roby to DEN

last pick of the night... will we trade up?

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Roby to DEN

last pick of the night... will we trade up?

I might have been tempted to take him if he had fallen to the 35th pick. He did have a great 2012, before slipping in 2013, and he has nice size and speed for the position.

Exactly. It was also widely reported that the Browns really liked Manziel, but that they didn't rate him as a top 10 pick. Haslem loved him of course but defered to his scouts........everybody wins. Ray and MP get the guy they wanted (and a potential high 1st next year to boot) and get the QB both they and Haslem wanted for the value they wanted to pay.

why trade up? For who?

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why trade up? For who?

Maybe Lee.

I don't think that he'll get past the Hawks if they pick. (or if they trade down a spot or 2)

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I can just imagine Manziel running around like a madman, dodging tackles, looking for a receiver who is open to throw to and he throws it to Little. And Little drops it.

If we draft another WR, Little may not make this team.

We added Hawkins and Burleson. Add a guy like Lee on top of that and Little's days could be numbered.

Let's hope so. I see Little as Braylon Edward's II, and he's not even that good..... But just as bad.

Vikings trade

Vikings traded into first - about to get a QB

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Vikings traded into first - about to get a QB

Thinking Carr? Or Bridgewater?

Lee or Latimer will fall in our lap round 2

Little is no way Edwards. Not even close. Little busts his ass in practices, in the film room, and works as hard on his body and skills as anyone on the Browns. He just simply has issues catching the ball.

I wish that we would look at him as a TE. I think he could excel there.

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Vikings traded into first - about to get a QB

Thinking Carr? Or Bridgewater?

I would think Teddy

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Vikings traded into first - about to get a QB

Thinking Carr? Or Bridgewater?

Carr to Minny, Bridgewater to Houston.

makes sense to me.

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why trade up? For who?

Seattle wanted to move back.

bridgewater is the pick

Minn trades up for Bridgewater and that's the last pick tonight. Peace

Poor Houston - missed out on Teddy by 1 pick...

I still think they go QB.... but who will it be?

Teddy to Minnesota. He's the QB I wanted (sighs).

Considering we traded down then up twice already I won't be surprised if a lot of teams call us tomorrow...and we trade down...But very good talent is still there for our picking

Well see you guys tomorrow night. Later....

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And that's the last pick tonight. Peace

Yup.
Not exactly happy. But not devastated either....
Night all.

Bedtime for Bonzo

'Night

Lee should be there when we pick tomorrow if we want him... unless someone trades in front of us... I think Houston has to take a QB and I don't think Washington will go for a WR.

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Poor Houston - missed out on Teddy by 1 pick...

I still think they go QB.... but who will it be?

How about Hoyer for a 4th?

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why trade up? For who?

Xavier Su'a Filo would be great

I wanted Bridgewater as well...just love his football smarts...and his arm is just as good as Bortles and Manziel imo

Never wanted him. l'll be interested to see how he works out in the cold weather while Minny is building their new stadium. I think it's a bad fit.

Yep. As much as I want another CB to finish the back end of the defense, if we could get Lee, I would be thrilled with this draft. That would give us 2 impact starters, and a QB to develop.

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why trade up? For who?

Xavier Su'a Filo would be great

good thing you brought him up...I forgot all about him...figured he'd be gone by now...thank god for the eagles cheifs and 9ers surprising picks

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Yep. As much as I want another CB to finish the back end of the defense, if we could get Lee, I would be thrilled with this draft. That would give us 2 impact starters, and a QB to develop.

And another first next year...

I'd take Jordan Matthews over Lee. Bad karma for USC WRs.