Surely we can do that, can’t we?

Here is more bad news: the Lions have dropped several close games and are due to get their first W.

On O, we should run the damn ball, hopefully Chubb is back this week, and what I hope for as much as anything, is that our deep passing game can gel, to put pressure on the Lions secondary.

On D, we have to do what we didn’t do against the Patriots. Whatever that is exactly, we have to do it, or someone is getting fired next week in Berea.

I wish Vers was here, he was excellent at providing well-thought analysis into this thread.

Chase: just keep kicking as per usual.
Have at it , kids.

NOPE. I'm not going there. I didn't think we could lose the last two we lost. I'm saying wait and see every game now. Do we get great, average, subpar, or what is this &%$*#?

In other bad news, we lose to the Lions a high percentage of the time. The good news is that it has taken until mid-late November before I am starting to question if I feel like making the near 600 miles drive up to the game.

Actually, it is the drive home I think about. Most of the time I split the drive up in to two legs. Maybe get 6 or so hours down the road on Friday, then 3-4 hours on Saturday morning. On the way home, I just have this thing about not wanting to spend a night in a hotel 2-3-4 hours away from the house, That just bugs me so I just roll out around 6am and get home around 4ish.

What happened to vers?

Do NOT let Godwin Igwebuike beat you.

Face mask I don't care. He only played 4 snaps last week, and had a 42 yard touchdown.

On offense we need to take advantage of the Lions bad secondary and throw the ball deep. Our WRs should have a field day against what maybe the worst secondary in the NFL.
The Lions don't have much of a pass rush so Baker should have all day to throw. Detroit's LBs are slow and have trouble covering TEs and RBs. I expect our TEs and RBs to have a big day catching the ball also.

The Lions have one of the lowest scoring offenses in the league. Because of Goff and bad WRs, the Lions don't throw the ball much downfield. They mostly try to run and throw short passes to Swift and Hockenson. We need to crowd the line to stop the run and force Goff to beat us which he can't. We also need to pressure Goff when he does try to throw downfield, which isn't very often. He is not very mobile and we should be able to get to him.

We should win this game easily.

If we lose we might as well shut it down for the year...

https://profootballtalk.nbcsports.c...-has-his-status-for-week-11-in-question/

Jared Goff has an oblique injury. David Blough anyone?

Please tell another one.

One of the many posters on here who claimed to know it all, yet proved wrong time and time again. That said, I do miss his late night rants as a result of mixing prescription medication and wine.

We're doomed.

Our lifetime record against the Lions is 5-19 the worst losing % we have against any other NFL team.

But we've never lost more than 4 in a row to them, and we're at 4 right now. So, we'll win! Lol. Actually thanks for sharing this, I had no idea our records against them was so bad.

I think this game comes down to injuries - who is in and who is out. Then playcalling is next most important. If we run the dang ball, I feel comfortable that we will win. If we go pass heavy again, I'm not so sure.

"Obliques is a term referring to muscles on the side of the upper body that help to assist in turning the body from side to side. They are actually two sets of obliques, called internal and external and each set contracts in a different way during twisting or side-to-side movements. This is the area of the body is also where the famous “love handles” develop, which people work so hard to eradicate."

Tough injury to overcome and make NFL passes.

Detroit is the mirror image what we've been over the years. Their fans have suffered just like us. Dumb draft picks, draft picks that were suppose to work out that didn't, poor management and just plain lousy luck. It's sad that most younger fans don't realize that these franchises were once 2 of the NFL elite.

If Bakers foot is still hurting, Not sure the deep threat will be available. This game has to be on the ground pounding the ball. Baker is beat up ! just let the run game win this !! and hope the Defense turns up to play .

j/c

Regardless of who is QB for the Browns - or who the RB is - there is only one way to beat Detroit. Only one way to salvage the season (if it's possible). And this is based on everything we've seen this season .... we got to play with intensity... we got to play like we want to win and expect to win .... we have to out physical them ..... while eliminating stupid penalties and remaining disciplined. If we do that it doesn't matter what else we do - because I believe there is far too much talent to lose to Detroit if we simply play like that.

As of now Goff is starting.

The last NFL championship the Lions won was in 1957. They beat the Browns.

Yea that is a good point about Baker. We should be able to run the ball. Especially if Chubb plays.

You're right about having far too much talent than them. Detroit is the worst team in the NFL period. We can not play down to their level by making stupid mistakes and penalties. We must play with intensity and to save a season that had so much promise! If we do that, we should win easily.

Just execute, limit the stupid mistakes (penalties, turnovers, etc) and play with intensity and we should win this game.

Sure .. .say what I said but take *80% fewer words to say it ! LOL

Lions podcast quick first listen on the post game of the steelers tie, had 2 points.

the head coach got mad and took over the offense.
the offense rushed for like 210+ yards. And they talked about the passer getting so few attempts.
So David Blough might not hurt them, plus, they will end up playing Goff not Blough anyway.

I think the Browns need to focus on stopping the run, stopping it 59 times or more.

That'll never work. Have you watched the NFL in 2021?

The yellow flag warriors.

Not much of a chance of either team making it that far this year.

It's absolutely ridiculous that these 2 franchises haven't won a championship in 64 years and 57 years respectively. What fan back then would have thought that inall these years they would not have won another one.

My dream Superbowl is the Browns and Lions in their first SB ! My first cousin was a WR for the Lions in 74 75.. Browns win it by 7 of course !

Holy crap I looked it up, we haven't beat detroit in a regular season game since 2001??? I guess I got mixed up with us beating them a few times in pre-season but we better send blitzes out the wazoo at them

The only one I really remember is the one when Stafford got injured and he went to the sidelines and they took him into the tent, prayed and rubber him with holy water, and he came back onto the field on the verge of death itself (they may have sewed his right arm back on during a TV timeout, I can't remember), but he rallied them for the game winning TD. At least that's what the broadcasters said happened.

Certainly not me, Homes.

I grew up in Lima, and had deep family ties to Toledo. Our house was a Browns house, but we spent every Thanksgiving in Toledo. Lions were the game every year. I've always known about DET. At lease 2-3 times/yr, DET becomes my default NFL game.

My dream matchup: CLE/DET for the Super Bowl.
An epic battle of North Coast NFL teams.
An epic battle of OG teams.

I'm pretty certain I will never live to see my dream matchup.

[shakes head slowly]

Color me sad, I'm just glad it's on FOX and I'll get to watch it in my garage. (not allowed to yell in the house. But on a side note, that rule goes back to when Sooga was taking naps............)

I have no idea what to expect for this game. Just, I'll be able to watch it on tv, instead of in my office on my computer monitor.

Got a Judge a while back. have only been able to celebrate scores 1 time with that, as well as with my shotguns. Hoping Sunday gives me the opportunity to kill an evergreen in the back yard. (all safe, for those that might wanna gripe. 640 acres behind me. Shoot straight, I have a mile to the next house. Shotgun shells with #8's don't go far. I'm a smart gun owner. )

But what happened to him? Was he banned from this message board?

I don't really care. He is gone and this board is better as a result.

Well Vegas has the Browns as 10 point favorites. 11 points on some boards.

Losing to the Lions is simply not an option.

No, he was not banned from here. He just left of his own accord.

Because not everybody appreciated his genius and admitted he was right?

That hasn't stopped me!

The Browns Lions game will come down to 2 things!!

Is Baker Mayfield better than Jared Goff.
and.

Is Nick Chubb better than whoever the heck... runs the ball 59 times for those dolts in Detroit.

There is no way that should be 10 points.

More like a pick em game. The Detroit defense, and pass defense. The Detroit running game.
Defense and a running game those are two terrible comination items in an NFL game.
(I just listened to the Detroit post game again from sunday,) Detroit had 9 pass break ups and played a gambling in your face defense all day against the steelers. So, the Browns defense, if they play soft, off the ball backpedaling prevent defense all day long, the Browns defense will look like just that, soft.

Vegas doesn't follow the Browns. The Vegas 10 point line, is based on a Browns team as healthy and psychologically pumped as they were in game 1 against the Chiefs, or even at the start of the LA Chargers game.
Everyone on this board knows the Browns are beat up, the psychology has taken a beating.

The coaches are holding this team back with their stubbornness, and refusal to take field goals on 4th down, imo.
If they keep going for things on 4th downs, then the execution won't be there on 3rd downs. How about that for analysis.
Stefanski, or the offensive decision maker, has failed to attempt about 13 field goals in these 10 games, because they went for it on 4th down, and they only got touchdowns on less than half of those.

Detroits biggest threat, is if their defense holds the Browns to lower scores. The Browns, need to get points, more points and points any way possible, including, getting field goals on 4th downs.

Detroit has only scored 18 or more points one time all year, that was the opening day loss to the 49ers, and most of those points came after they fell behind by a big ton.

First team to 24 points wins.
One way the Browns can hurt themselves, is NOT taking the field goals when the game presents it to them.

When the Browns converted on the fourth down for a TD against the Pats, of course I was glad we scored, but at the same time shaking my head that this will just embolden Stefanski to keep going for it and not taking the points that are there.

Emboldening someone to do the right thing seems like the right strategy.

Given our success rate for a long time, it didn't seem like the right thing to do.

Tim Boyle is starting at QB for the Lions.

Reminder:

In college Tim Boyle played in 37 games. He had 12 TDs and 26 INTs. If we lose to this guy it’s an epic disaster.

It won't be anything new. We lost to a first time starter at Denver named Brandon Allen in 2019.

He threw 2 TD passes and had almost 200 yards passing.

He's with the BenGALS now.

Maybe we can help Tim Boyle out and build up his confidence!!!