The Punt God will be drafted.

Cade York or I finance a re-do of the Cleveland Balloon release!

By whom ?

And what of Wallis? A QB that at one time - pre-Watson trade, you would have been all in for in the first round. . . In fact I am sure you said you'd have traded up from the Browns original 1st round pick to get... ? Do you still feel as confident about him? Why did he slip?

The Titans took Willis.

Before Watson I was desperate for a QB with upside because it was clear to me that Baker wasn't an option going forward. Willis was clearly the QB with the most upside. It is evident there were major flaws that the league saw that I was blind to.

As far as Punt God. Who knows.

God only knows how much WORSE this draft is going to get.

Can we just skip tomorrow?

Titans took Willis with the 86th pick in the draft. I have no idea if they got the steal of the draft or not - but you were advocating moving up from the Brown's original 1st round draft position to get him. Not wanting to be cantankerous but that seems to be a miss read of Willis's value. Call me sensitive or particular or pedantic - but it bothers me slightly when posters are so anti-Baker they'd advocate expending draft capital to move up for a QB that ended up being taken 2 rounds later and that opinion never gets reviewed or discussed.

I have no problem with people asking legit questions. I also have no problem admitting when I'm wrong (as I did above).

As I alluded to - you aren't wrong. Willis most definitely could be a starting QB for an NFL team, and in TEN he has a really solid opportunity to develop for a year under Ryan T. More so than most teams he could have been drafted by. I don't think you or anyone else didn't indicate he Willis had a lot of growing to do. The only issue I was sensitive to was him being viable to replace BM this year. Personally of the 3 "top" QB I think Ridder might hold the best shot at being a legit NFL QB. But that is mostly because I am not a fan of running QB. I don't think Lamar will be a Raven for more than a couple of more seasons, and despite some progress in 2020, he's more RB than QB. imo

I want Winfrey. DT is a huge area of concern for me.

Wouldn’t mind Cade York too as stated above

Cade York and Matt Araiza! At least salvage something from this draft. Is Daniel Faalele, the massive OT, worth taking a chance on?

An example of how we are all wrong at some point - I would have been happy taking Winfrey at #44. I'd still be happy with him now if we can get him.

I would use a 4th on Cade York. We need to fix the Kicker position and I think that would do it.

I don't love Araiza as much as some of you guys. His booming punts are impressive. But I don't see a lot of punts dropping inside the 10. I am also concerned about technique. He looks like a 4 step punter. I worry that in the NFL he is going to get a lot of punts blocked. I would prefer Jordan Stout out of Penn St later in the draft.

How dare you!

Sign me up for:

Dominique Robinson
Khalil Shakir
Damarri Mathis
An O-Lineman I've never heard of

And to quote Patrick Henry:

"Give me Cade York or give me death!"

Kingsley Enagbare is still available, too.

Cade York is a kicker. They should be able to manufacture a Kicker without wasting a draft pick. emm.

The Browns need a WR that can play in the slot!

And the Browns need to consider who is going to play Tight End???

And the Browns need a Wr that can play in the slot! <------ I think a good NFL team should have about 7 of those at all times. (or 17)

NFL . com gave us a Grade of A

nfl grades

1. P. Winfrey
2. D. Kinnard
3. C. Kolar
3. R. Walker
4. M. Butler
5. K. Shakir
6. M. Araiza
7. C. York
8. E. Perry

Please feel free to skip it, and to skip posting about it.

j/c,

TE JAMES MITCHELL, VIRGINIA TECH (PFF BIG BOARD RANK: 109)

Mitchell has been forgotten in the tight end class after tearing his ACL in Week 2 of 2021. He possesses some of the best natural receiving talent in the class and is a more-than-willing blocker on tape.

My ideal draft:

Round 4 I would love to see us take Perrion Winfrey, Cade Otten, and Cade York


In round 6/7 I would like, in no particular order: Jordan Stout, Kevin Austin, and an OT
OT I like, don't know if they will fall this far are:
Zack Toms, Braxton Jones, Ryan Van Demark

Look to take a DT - TE - WR - OT Today

Winfrey fans, this pick is for you.

yesssss - Winfrey, not Oprah...

Great value.

Winfrey is great value here...my favorite pick for us here. I wasn't so high on him, but thought for sure he would be gone early portion of round 3...I know his run performance and times getting completely washed out would cause him to dip some...I do love us adding to the Dline, as I always wanted us to obtain a dline like the Eagles of a few years ago (where they would rotate everyone in and out, and not lose a step do to their deep depth)

One picked by us, one picked before us

Hoping maybe Charlie Kolar at TE, and perhaps Oline help...a lot of the LBs I thought could be around, are gone.

I'm hoping for Neil Farrell Jr (DT) and Kellen Diesch (OT) for our next two picks in the 4th

2 of the next 8 picks ....

4 pretty decent TE's available still:

Kolar Iowa St
Isaiah Likey Coastal Carolina
Jake Ferguson Wisc
Chigoziem Okonkwo Maryland

I I like OT/OG Kellen Diesch a lot, moves very well...would not mind him as our swing...he kind of gives me vibes of Bitinio coming out (just not as stout) I wouldn't mind Kinnard either, but I wonder about his ability to stay at tackle a little more versus Diesch.

Love this pick

Actually Jalen Wydemyer Texas A&M is still available too.
He was the #2 ranked TE behind only McBride coming out of the season.
Big TE 6'5 260# But was painfully slow in the 40

If we don't take a TE this round I might take a chance on him late

I like Tyreke Smith from tOSU as a situational pass rusher.

Field Yates
@FieldYates
Our first draft day trade today:

The Browns trade: Pick 118

The Vikings trade: Pick 156, a 2023 4th round pick

Traded pick #118

On film Wydermyer doesn't look slow

I’m good with gaining some draft picks next year

I wouldn't mind him late, if we avoid TE this round. I know his stock has unfortunately dropped perhaps more than anyone's with the porous testing you had mentioned.

Did I count right ... the Rats have 6 oicks in the 4th????

Another pretty good TE is Peyton Hendershot Indiana

they are unfortunately killing it, as always...

I am thankful that I did not have a mouthful of beer when I read that. I don't care who you are or what you think about...well..anything...THAT was funny.

Cleveland drafts a kicker, Cade York, at 124

Can't complain about drafting a K

You know one way that you (meaning me) don't really have a clue about the draft? When you are happier with Day 3 than you were with Day 1 and 2.

Too early. I would have waited for our new 5th to take him, if I were to do so.

Death avoided.

As much as the Browns have struggled with kickers, fixing the problem was the priority.

They tried to wait on McPherson last year and lost him to Cincy. If that’s the guy you covet you take your guy

Best TE/OL for our next pick please

He is by far the best Kicker in the draft.
I definite starter from round 4
The difference between any other player and the next best at that position is minuscule
Love the pick

Tend to agree, but I don't think we have a fifth unless something happened in a trade.

EDIT: My bad, don't know what I was looking at.

Update on my ideal draft going forward:

Round 5 - a developmental OT


Round 6/7
Jordan Stout, Kevin Austin, Jalen Wydermyer

We pi ked up a 5th in the trade with Minnesota. However, that is reserved for the punter.

And then you end up diking around and lose the guy. He's the best kicker in the draft and it is a big need.

That checks all the boxes I need checked.

That’s what happened last year.

CBS Sports review of the picked says:

"Probably the premier K in this class, but not a giant need for the Browns"

NOT a giant need? What team have they been watching????

It's a classic national-pundit-evaluation of a Browns team.

Dang Ravens - Took my boy Jordan Stout P
Matt Araiza still on the board

There is no such thing on earth!
as too early to select a player, ...if you like him!!!

I would have taken Kolar or Tyreke Smith. I think they would have had a bigger overall impactt

"Sometimes you're the windshield, sometimes you're the bug" Dusty Rhodes

To be fair Buccs took a kicker. Could’ve been York had we not taken him (or maybe they wanted the other guy)

Steelers take one of "my guys" every year ... RIP Calvin Austin III.

That is strange that two punters are off the board before Araiza.

RAVENS TAKE A 2ND TE THIS DRAFT - KOLAR AND LIKELY

Let's just hope that York is our Sebastian Janiwokowski

Hoping for Oline (Kiesch or perhaps Lindstorm inside...not sure if Kinnard is still available) Perhaps Beavers if he's still still out there...another LB I like is McFadden out of Indiana...Not sure who's still out there for TE, I lost a lot of hope once Kolar was snagged by guess who...the Ravens.

They say it is all about hang time. Araiza booms them, but does not hang them.

I would think if you can boom them, you can learn to hang them.

Kinnard is available
CBS Sports has a draft tacker of the picks and a "best available" tab



https://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/draft-tracker/

I think the Browns like Jalen Wydermyer as TE. Next pick if not the Punt God.

I liked Jordan Stout because of his ability to drpo the ball inside the 10
I don't see Araiza do that - Araiza is flashy with those boomers.

24 years and Zero -- reliable slot receivers drafted by the Browns.

and now we know why they drafted Emerson.

Dang there goes McFadden who was my sleeper at LB

Hmm seems like we have a lot of boundary CBs...wonder who'll play inside now

Good question.

Rasheed Walker would be a good get about now, I think.

They could do worse than Thayer Munford OL, OT/OG Ohio State if they were on the clock right now, in fact I don't think any punter would be a better selection than a solid offensive lineman.

j/c...

Kinnard gone -> 145 to the Chiefs

Good. Gaining picks for next year. Next year is the year that can hurt us the most by not having a 1st. This pick and the 4th earlier give us some flexibility.

A $3,375,000 cap savings.

I am hoping for Tyreke Smith with our pick .....

We'll see ....

JAX took Snoop Conner
Next they need to take Smoke Monday and go for the all name team

Jerome Ford

Bleh. Not a fan of the RB. I would have taken Smith or Walker.

There goes Smith to the Seahawks.

Probably a wasted pick here ... no TEs'?

They could have found better than a Jerome Ford Rb Cincinnati bearcats. Bearcats? really.

Ford is a upside pick.

It also makes one wonder if something is brewing? It could also signal the move of Felton to the WR room.

I still think the best move long term is to trade Hunt.

Time to trade the rest of the day draft to get Punt God and call it a day.

Trading Hunt is the only way I could see us taking another RB ... not that I am advocating that we do so.

This is Hunt's last year (unless he re-signs) and D'Ernest is only tendered. I think there were bigger needs, but drafting a RB makes sense to me.

This is turning out to be a more than decent draft for us.

Kevin Harris Rb South Carolina just went to the Patriots near 25 short of pick 200 overall, and
He could possibly be the best player in the entire draft and have, I mean, what is not to like about Kevin Harris except that he's on a team other than the Browns. I really think that guy is special and he is going to prove to be special.
Kevin Harris is, man, just Solid.

Draft failure

Everybody has a big board. Not all are created equal.

Michael Woods WR, Oklahoma

Buffalo drafts Araiza at #180
1st pick of round 6

Are we done?

No

We just drafted Isaiah Thomas DE Oklahoma

Scheduled for one more pick at 246.

And one more pick at 246

Our favorite pick Cade York got a D+ grade by CBS Sports

You posted these picks when I asked what we had now on day two:

68
78
99
108
118
124
202
223
246

I missed what happen with @118, we trade? If so what did we get?

Trade. We got a pick next year and a later pick this year.

A 2023 4th round selection and pick 5/159. <RB

The Browns shipped the 118th overall choice in the fourth round to the Vikings for the 156th overall pick in the fifth round a fourth-round selection next year.

I wouldn't put a grade on our draft just yet but IMO we had an above average draft and I'm not even including Deshaun at this time.

j/c:

Probably no one else cares, but I was glad to see Desmond Ridder get drafted. He has accuracy issues, but he is such a high-character individual and a great leader who quietly uplifts others and doesn't seek attention. Him applauding his teammates being drafted him was so sincere. Great kid who will be a winner in whatever walk of life he ends up in.

They also said K wasn't a need - so clearly CBS is a bit clueless.

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Ridder to the Falcons. I live in Atl. so I will follow him.

I wanted to draft Ridder in the second round before we got DW.

Like him a lot. I would have drafted him over Pickett. He has a chance to become a solid qb in the NFL.

He does a lot of things well. Great athlete. Exceptional leader. Needs work on ball placement but what he needs work on are things that can be corrected.

He could be the steal in this draft. Always hard to figure quarterbacks but he could be damn good.