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The Punt God will be drafted.

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Cade York or I finance a re-do of the Cleveland Balloon release!


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Originally Posted by cfrs15
The Punt God will be drafted.

By whom ?

And what of Wallis? A QB that at one time - pre-Watson trade, you would have been all in for in the first round. . . In fact I am sure you said you'd have traded up from the Browns original 1st round pick to get... ? Do you still feel as confident about him? Why did he slip?


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Originally Posted by mgh888
Originally Posted by cfrs15
The Punt God will be drafted.

By whom ?

And what of Wallis? A QB that at one time - pre-Watson trade, you would have been all in for in the first round. . . In fact I am sure you said you'd have traded up from the Browns original 1st round pick to get... ? Do you still feel as confident about him? Why did he slip?

The Titans took Willis.

Before Watson I was desperate for a QB with upside because it was clear to me that Baker wasn't an option going forward. Willis was clearly the QB with the most upside. It is evident there were major flaws that the league saw that I was blind to.

As far as Punt God. Who knows.

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God only knows how much WORSE this draft is going to get.

Can we just skip tomorrow?

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Titans took Willis with the 86th pick in the draft. I have no idea if they got the steal of the draft or not - but you were advocating moving up from the Brown's original 1st round draft position to get him. Not wanting to be cantankerous but that seems to be a miss read of Willis's value. Call me sensitive or particular or pedantic - but it bothers me slightly when posters are so anti-Baker they'd advocate expending draft capital to move up for a QB that ended up being taken 2 rounds later and that opinion never gets reviewed or discussed.


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I have no problem with people asking legit questions. I also have no problem admitting when I'm wrong (as I did above).

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As I alluded to - you aren't wrong. Willis most definitely could be a starting QB for an NFL team, and in TEN he has a really solid opportunity to develop for a year under Ryan T. More so than most teams he could have been drafted by. I don't think you or anyone else didn't indicate he Willis had a lot of growing to do. The only issue I was sensitive to was him being viable to replace BM this year. Personally of the 3 "top" QB I think Ridder might hold the best shot at being a legit NFL QB. But that is mostly because I am not a fan of running QB. I don't think Lamar will be a Raven for more than a couple of more seasons, and despite some progress in 2020, he's more RB than QB. imo


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I want Winfrey. DT is a huge area of concern for me.

Wouldn’t mind Cade York too as stated above


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Cade York and Matt Araiza! At least salvage something from this draft. Is Daniel Faalele, the massive OT, worth taking a chance on?

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Originally Posted by Dawgs4Life
I want Winfrey. DT is a huge area of concern for me.

An example of how we are all wrong at some point - I would have been happy taking Winfrey at #44. I'd still be happy with him now if we can get him.


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I would use a 4th on Cade York. We need to fix the Kicker position and I think that would do it.

I don't love Araiza as much as some of you guys. His booming punts are impressive. But I don't see a lot of punts dropping inside the 10. I am also concerned about technique. He looks like a 4 step punter. I worry that in the NFL he is going to get a lot of punts blocked. I would prefer Jordan Stout out of Penn St later in the draft.




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How dare you!

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Sign me up for:

Dominique Robinson
Khalil Shakir
Damarri Mathis
An O-Lineman I've never heard of

And to quote Patrick Henry:

"Give me Cade York or give me death!"

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Kingsley Enagbare is still available, too.

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Cade York is a kicker. They should be able to manufacture a Kicker without wasting a draft pick. emm.

The Browns need a WR that can play in the slot!

And the Browns need to consider who is going to play Tight End???

And the Browns need a Wr that can play in the slot! <------ I think a good NFL team should have about 7 of those at all times. (or 17)


Can Deshaun Watson play better for the Browns, than Baker Mayfield would have? ... Now the Games count.
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Originally Posted by SuperBrown
God only knows how much WORSE this draft is going to get.

Can we just skip tomorrow?

NFL . com gave us a Grade of A

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1. P. Winfrey
2. D. Kinnard
3. C. Kolar
3. R. Walker
4. M. Butler
5. K. Shakir
6. M. Araiza
7. C. York
8. E. Perry

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Originally Posted by SuperBrown
God only knows how much WORSE this draft is going to get.

Can we just skip tomorrow?

Please feel free to skip it, and to skip posting about it.


I AM ALWAYS RIGHT... except when I am wrong.
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TE JAMES MITCHELL, VIRGINIA TECH (PFF BIG BOARD RANK: 109)

Mitchell has been forgotten in the tight end class after tearing his ACL in Week 2 of 2021. He possesses some of the best natural receiving talent in the class and is a more-than-willing blocker on tape.


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My ideal draft:

Round 4 I would love to see us take Perrion Winfrey, Cade Otten, and Cade York


In round 6/7 I would like, in no particular order: Jordan Stout, Kevin Austin, and an OT
OT I like, don't know if they will fall this far are:
Zack Toms, Braxton Jones, Ryan Van Demark


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Look to take a DT - TE - WR - OT Today


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Winfrey fans, this pick is for you.


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yesssss - Winfrey, not Oprah...

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Great value.


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Winfrey is great value here...my favorite pick for us here. I wasn't so high on him, but thought for sure he would be gone early portion of round 3...I know his run performance and times getting completely washed out would cause him to dip some...I do love us adding to the Dline, as I always wanted us to obtain a dline like the Eagles of a few years ago (where they would rotate everyone in and out, and not lose a step do to their deep depth)

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Originally Posted by Jester
My ideal draft:

Round 4 I would love to see us take Perrion Winfrey, Cade Otten, and Cade York

One picked by us, one picked before us


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Hoping maybe Charlie Kolar at TE, and perhaps Oline help...a lot of the LBs I thought could be around, are gone.

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I'm hoping for Neil Farrell Jr (DT) and Kellen Diesch (OT) for our next two picks in the 4th

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2 of the next 8 picks .... wink


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4 pretty decent TE's available still:

Kolar Iowa St
Isaiah Likey Coastal Carolina
Jake Ferguson Wisc
Chigoziem Okonkwo Maryland


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Originally Posted by clwb419
I'm hoping for Neil Farrell Jr (DT) and Kellen Diesch (OT) for our next two picks in the 4th
I like OT/OG Kellen Diesch a lot, moves very well...would not mind him as our swing...he kind of gives me vibes of Bitinio coming out (just not as stout) I wouldn't mind Kinnard either, but I wonder about his ability to stay at tackle a little more versus Diesch.

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Love this pick


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Actually Jalen Wydemyer Texas A&M is still available too.
He was the #2 ranked TE behind only McBride coming out of the season.
Big TE 6'5 260# But was painfully slow in the 40

If we don't take a TE this round I might take a chance on him late


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I like Tyreke Smith from tOSU as a situational pass rusher.


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Our first draft day trade today:

The Browns trade: Pick 118

The Vikings trade: Pick 156, a 2023 4th round pick


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Traded pick #118


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On film Wydermyer doesn't look slow



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I’m good with gaining some draft picks next year


"First down inside the 10. A score here will put us in the Super Bowl. Cooper is far to the left as Njoku settles into the slot. Moore is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Ford are split in the backfield as Watson takes the snap ... Here we go."
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Originally Posted by Jester
Actually Jalen Wydemyer Texas A&M is still available too.
He was the #2 ranked TE behind only McBride coming out of the season.
Big TE 6'5 260# But was painfully slow in the 40

If we don't take a TE this round I might take a chance on him late

I wouldn't mind him late, if we avoid TE this round. I know his stock has unfortunately dropped perhaps more than anyone's with the porous testing you had mentioned.

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