Brissett is not playing. I think that’s all we need to know about the situation.

Interesting that they wouldn’t at least play him a series or two

Most of the starters aren’t playing. He’s the starter.

Hmmmm.........that's a better point than my musings of him being part of a trade for Jimmy G on the other thread.

Down in Destin, FL with the family and we just came up from the beach in time to watch the Cade York experience begin!

Very good sign for Watson to issue that long apology IMO

Our return game is so bad lol

Okay what a terrible start

Schwartz should be cut and just not look back. He just doesn’t have any skill to be a nfl wr. Maybe try him as a returner

A bad pass, a drop, and Harris is out for the year

JC Tretter on line one.

I still think you should be full contact early and often in TC. Then guys aren’t getting hit for first time in game

Stefanski believes in making training camp as easy as possible.

I'm surprised the starters are even playing at all.

Didn’t we sign a center in offseason from Seattle or something

Yes. He’s not good.

We need Tretter ASAP. Harris is done for the year

And Emerson toasted

Stefanski says if players are healthy they practice, yet don’t play anyone in preseason. Schtick is old

Jags driving easily

We need DTs desperately. Ours suck

Should have played Garrett.

Smh

Funny how many Drs we have on this board

No we shouldn’t have obviously

Our vaunted secondary toasted by a long haired hippie who was horrible last year

leadtheway is melting down over inconsequential preseason plays.

FOOTBALL IS BACK!

The Browns look like how they practice.

I think Lawrence is going to be good.

We will see if it was urban holding him back but last year was bad

Etienne certainly looks quick and explosive

j/c, How did Harris get hurt?

Camp cupcake looks productive….

Fumble by D’Ernest

This is why you pay hunt

If the saying, "same old Browns" was a preseason game Listening and it sounds bad

DPJ missed a block entirely

Elliot with a nice double move

Greedy got away with one

Stefanski will probably give the offense participation trophies after the game.

good job by Elliott on that 1st down

I get being vanilla, but atleast try a few things to see what you got. There is too conservative

They did participate.

Wonder if stefanski will allow Watson to audible

So poorly coached. I know it’s first preseason but man this is ugly

DPJ hold. Not a great start for him

Shwartz is complete trash. No way he makes the final roster

Dude, Schwartz can’t possibly be relied upon haha

Anthony Schwartz looks like poop.

Pieces change but a stefanski coached team play the same as the pieces before

Very poorly coached. I just don't know about Stefanski.

How is he going to keep a team with Brissett starting afloat?

Lots of penalties too. I’d be at the point to get all the starters out and get back to work

They look like they have no clue what they are doing.

If being completely unprepared to play a football game was the goal, the Cleveland Browns are absolutely nailing it!

It's also Jacksonville's second game.

We look the worst of any team that has played so far. That’s not good

The team stayed afloat last year with bottom of the league QB play. Brissett just needs to be average (that’s a big ask).

Now I remember why I never participate in the the Gameday threads during the season. Good God!

Yeah but they aren’t doing anything to us . We are doing it to ourselves

Good play there by thomas

Good DE depth it looks like, just not a single DT . Hope Elliot comes through

Wow this defense

If Stefanski pulls Watson after zero first downs simply because the clock says it's the second quarter, can we all agree that Stefanski has question marks?

Lawrence looks improved to me

This is why not playing everyone that’s healthy does nothing but give future grocery baggers empty reps instead of letting the ones that will play valuable gel and timing reps

Lawrence was always good, even last year. Last year was just rookie growing pains under an extremely dysfunctional environment.

Hard to tell against our defense. Rosen would prob light them up with as much space we are giving them

#notarealfootballplayer

Or we look so bad, we make him look good

The WR position is an issue. Even with Cooper, I still have question marks with DPJ and Schwartz (obviously lol)

I really hope they are watching stefanski closely. They need to have a short lease on his playcalling

For those flipping out over a preseason game...

Have a drink and relax.

56 has looked good

I’d take Antonio Brown. He’d be cheap and he’s every bit as good as cooper

Their playcalling is so much better than ours. Pederson is so much better at it

😳 For real. So much conclusion jumping. Do we not learn almost every year that preseason tells us almost nothing about the regular season?

13-0 jags

Watson out and Dobbs in. Interesting.

#stefanskibaby

1 for 5 for 7 yards is not great

Now we just want the clock to run out. We didn’t get much out of tonight

A reminder to all.....

....Hue Jackson was 4-0 in the pre-season.

Josh Dobbs over Josh Rosen, huh?

How do you not even play your starting qb a single series

He cuts back and it’s a td

Nice run by FOrd

Ford a lot bigger than I thought. Looks like Jamal Lewis

So it doesn't look like Brissett is going to play at all.

Good decision or bad decision?

I'm laughing as I type that question.

Good RAC by Kelly

Looking good. We're in mid-season form!!!

I wasn't talking about Watson. I am not even watching the game. I visited this thread to learn about the game, but all I see is hysteria. Again, it's why I never read or participate in these Game Day threads during the regular season.

Good run by Ford too

Whoever Petrola is just was awful HAHA

Ford looks good.

Ford might take Johnson’s job

TD BROWNS

j/c:

I mean............a meaningless preseason game and we have posters suggesting we consider firing the HC, who was named HC of the Year in 2020. Un-freaking-real!!!!

WE MADE THE XP

I think that was the plan when we Drafted Ford.

Fair.

Ford looks good

Vers, I'm being irrational and having fun with it, but I am not a Stefanski guy. I don't want to get rid of him, and I am hoping he is successful, but I just don't see it personally. Not sure what is so good about him.

I agree Ford looked good

Wow nice play by Bell

Emerson is playing with fire letting guys get behind him

After drafting him, I tried to youtube some college games. He looked awful in most of what I watched.

Thats just lead. He could hit the lottery for 50 million and all you would hear from him is him complaining that the jackpot wasn't 100 million

Maybe you should ask the refs to move negative game day comments to tailgate.

I missed DW playing but see we were scoreless until a few minutes ago, what did his play look like?

Our OL is a penalty machine

Nice screen to FOrd

Nothing like conservative play calls during preseason. Looks like stefanski in mid season form

Nickname for Emerson should be Drum

Orignally posted by somebody ...
" This is also Jacksonvilles 2nd game" ...

^ Is this the First excuse of the 2022 season. We've come to making excuses, and it's, well it's early.

It makes a difference dude. Set down the crack pipe.

GM: Watson looked nervous and hesitant to me (could be the circumstances, could be having 2nd stringers around him, etc). But he had a bad snap, we had dropped passes, penalties, etc. It was about as discombobulated as it could be.

Schwartz better wake up, or he could be gone

this actually happened.
The Browns got the ball first had,
A punt, a fumble (Johnson) an injured center, Harris, carted off, ( Watsons' first play of the game was an off target pass, the 2nd play another off target pass, a holding call, a declined holding on a drop by Schwartz,
but the ,
Punt, Fumble, Injured player, holding, and gave up 2 Fgs, all occurred Before
The Browns had one complete pass, or rushed for a first down.
7 yards in the first uarter.
I do believe you could call uarterback sneak I2 times and get more than 7 yards in a @uarter.

More unforced backbreaking errors

A defensive holding on 3rd and long … that was a pretty bad call lol

I just trashed Emerson, and he just made one of the best plays I've ever seen. LOL

Well well Emerson. That’s how you make a mark. Nice one kid

EMERSON HAHA WOW

That's hilarious.

Great play

Why do we have so many corners that look like Chris rock lol

Good god what a leg

I said, Within I5 minutes of the day he was drafted but, whatever, hope springs eternal

Its also been 19 months since he played in a game

Yeah no doubt. It was as rusty as you’d imagine

I hope excuses don't begin to dominate the discussion of the Browns' offenses' performance.

Just got home. How is Josh Dobbs doing? I wish he had a better chance in Pittsburgh. Hopefully he can be a good backup for the Browns.

Started off 4 for 4

For everyone throwing shade about Brissett not playing, quite a few starters were announced as healthy scratches before the game started, including Brissett.

Great job THomas

Sack!

Did that 6th round Wr play? Did Woods at WR play?
And or, did Felton play?
I know that, Amari Cooper didn't, and , the 4th round ish Wr from Purdue? is injured, but at the games start,
Who is going to catch the ball as a starting Wr, they looked, Bleak whooh.

Brissett needs the work.

Begin? Haven't we be bombed by excuses for the last 4 years?

What is the score?

Well, but the Browns go through @uarterbacks like the Travel Channel goes through paranormal shows.
(They never saw a new one they didn't like)

I told was by many here when I said Schwartz was a bust
"OH no he's not, you can't judge a player after 1 year"
Yes there are some players you can tell right away if he
Has IT or NOT. you don't need a full year to judge a player
Schwartz played scared last year.
He is not a NFL caliber WR. Being the fastest man in college
Means nothing at this level

14-13 CLE

Really? Thanks. Sounded like we were losing by 40.

I think you're right. Playing timid just doesn't cut it in the NFL.

My guess is that Brissett gets the majority of first team reps after this game.

The score is I4-I3 the Browns lead and in scoring position, but failing on 3 plays in the red zone, about to try a fg.
3rd and i4 from the i3? to the end zone... incompleted thrown inside of anybody fading in.

You can be up by 20 in the gameday thread and there will be wrist slitting every other play. You must have really forgotten that if this surprises you. I don't think I spent more than a quarter in here over the last 5-6 seasons without getting sick of it.

Yeah, I never read these Gameday threads during the regular season. I'm only reading it tonight for information because I an unable to watch the game.

Nice pass.

WOW!!!!! TD

How?

Dobbs is getting it done against the 3rd stringers. I'm pleasantly surprised.

Dobbs and Ford having nice nights.

The Jags should fire Doug Peterson.

Sorry, I was looking at another forum and didn't see your post till now. QB ran for a bit and then threw it to our RB (I think Ford), who was falling and caught it on his back in the endzone.

Doug Pederson will be happy it's not him.

Dobbs had some good moments with the Steelers. I wish he was still with them.

Ball punched out/fumble - great D - we got it!

Dobbs threw a td pass to Ford, who earlier rushed for a td, ford, while I was out of the room.

earlier, Martin Emmerson, litterlly (high armed, Imagine 4 arms 2 players in almost a td ref signal, ... rolled the ball out of the top grasp of the pass catcher and then it became an int. which he returned for a TD,
the Browns...
made the FG after my earlier post, the score is 24-I3 Browns.

And the Browns get a turnover, another turnoer,
D'Anthoney Bell, gameballs, Isiah Thomas, sacks gameball, ... young guys looking good.
..
Josh Rosen enters the game.
a False start. Forbes,
there was an OT earlier having penalty troubles (name had an M, in it, hardly heard of him )

Ford has really impressed. Our RB room is legit … easily the best RB room in the NFL

It’s Rosen’s show now

3rd and 4, Rosen to Daylon Baldwin for 7, uick inside ...
Motion, Travel harris, they give to Kelly ending the final play of the 3rd uarter.
2nd and 9 at the break

Baldwin has looked better than Schwartz

Kelly had a good run play, and a 3rd and short got wrapped up, so they go for it on 4th down, and convert,
then move another First down forward.
Only entering FG range.

Rosen has looked serviceable for a 3rd stringer … but we just fumbled it away

The player always, trying to fight for the extra yards to get the first, is in danger of what happened here, a fumble, Jags ball at the break, was his knee down?

How?

Browns are playing that, ... give up the middle pass and keep the clock running , defense we've seen it a lot from KS's tenure as a coach.

I didn't realize Josh Rosen ended up with the Browns, wow.

I hate the preseason....

ready for regular season...

FL: ford fumbled on the Jags 15 yard line. They are driving with about 7 mins left … we are up 24-13

Moffet with the sack!

Nothing like a 40 yard DPI penalty
That’s H. Miller’s 2nd

Ty,

I Like Moffatt, he was on another teams roster a couple months ago, I thought he was gone,
Browns need to keep Moffatt

Jags in scoring positon, got an offensive penalty.

We have double digits in penalties

Just like that, offensive holding,
Herb Miller redeems himself, with an interception getting toes in the right sideline to have 2 feet down.
Touchback, Browns ball.

Miller with the INT! Makes up for the PI

Thomas has really shown something

Browns win 24-13 … back at home next week!

Oh you mean Isaiah Thomas the DE, the 6th/7th round pick from Okalahoma, yes he was in the backfield The Browns defense made a Bunch of big plays, After the 2nd @uarter started. A bunch.

DW's stats look terrible, he threw it, but 3 drops hurt your completion rate. Ugh!!!

Schwartz is simply not good enough

His first pass, the very first offensive snap of the game, may have been called a drop but it was also off target too high and not in sync with the receiving target.
(Analytics' must think that WRs don't matter, they don't draft any Ist round WRs or even 2nds, and... it's been ongoing.)

I think it was determined that schwartz ran that first route at the wrong depth

Why go to Schwartz? Is there medical cure for dropsy? Wouldn't be throwing at him meself.

I don't get this concept... of... there being nothing more to it than running a route anyway.
a I/2 a month ago I wanted to have this argument that, if you get the perfect route runner, doesn't every defense, NFL defense, defender, and coordinator, that make their LIFE being a defender already know about all the routes somebodys ever thought up of, so their must be,
their must be a place they know the ball is headed to, and they can anticipate routes sometimes, and when I re-saw the Browns vs. Chiefs playoff game it sure seemed the Chiefs wrs./players were intentionall doing odd things after they were downfield to break off, and get where the route wasn't headed but the ball ended up.
The only point I'm trying to argue is
The desire to ac@uire the perfect route runner is not an end all be all that will guarantee a I900 yd, 50 Touchdown year WR or someone on the road to those numbers. It's not soley about route running there has to be more to it than that.
And if it Were soley about route running then defenses would just hang out along those, and never let a team complete a pass anyways.

How did the Offensive line play?

I heard some highlights from the NFL/Jaguars broadcast,and I thought that Bucky Brooks sounded like a cross between constipated and drunk. That's about my biggest impact from the game. Mant of the rookies played well, and that was huge, but most were playing against other rookies who will not be in the league in a few weeks. Itw as, however, encouraging. (in its own way) I was disappointed with our "1st team" offense, almost completely across the board. (in quotes, because many 1st teamers had the night off)