Unless I'm wrong we have the 16th and 17th picks in the 4th round which should translate to picks #115 and #116.

# 115 - Cleveland receives Buffalo's 2015 1st and 4th round pick and a 2014 1st round pick (# 9) for a 2014 1st round pick (# 4 - Sammy Watkins).

# 116 - Cleveland receives Houston's 2015 2nd (# 51), 4th (# 116), 6th (#195) round picks for a 2015 2nd (# 43) and 7th (# 229) round picks.

linkadocious

Can we please start to get some offensive weapons, outside of running back...

Best Available Overall
La'el Collins OT LSU
T.J. Clemmings OT Pittsburgh
Grady Jarrett DT Clemson
Mike Bennett DT Ohio St
Trey Flowers DE Arkansas
Rashad Greene WR Florida St
Justin Hardy WR E Carolina
Anthony Harris S Virginia
Tre Jackson OG Florida St
Bryce Petty QB Baylor
Jay Ajayi RB Boise St
Doran Grant CB Ohio St
Daryl Williams OT Oklahoma
Buck Allen RB USC
Kwon Alexander OLB LSU

Maybe Hardy and Bryce Petty here?

I like RT Daryll Williams a lot...but don't know if he fits our scheme...Heck I'm not even sure what scheme we will run this year...

I also wouldn't mind QB Petty in this round...considering QBs are nearly always over drafted, the 4th round is a good spot...Need a PR...I wonder if WR Diggs can fill that role? Also be interesting if we trade off perhaps Phil Taylor?

Like TE O'Leary...with a clause in his contract that prevents him for going crazy on his motorcycle

I like the following

-TJ Clemmings (1st round talent that slipped due to injury, grab him in the 4th and red shirt him if necessary)
-Tre McBride (WR)
-Ifo Ekpre-Olomu (see TJ Clemmings comments)
-Ramik Wilson (LB)
-Ibraheim Campbell (S)
-Tre Jackson (G)
-Stefon Diggs (WR)
-Brandon Bridge (QB)
-Taiwan Jones (ILB)
-Jeremy Langford (RB) - I know we don't need one but this will be a steal for the team that picks him

I'd trade the 17th pick for a later 4th and a 5th.

I would perhaps take Collins with the latter 4th. He is worth the gamble on talent alone although I feel really uncomfortable saying that not really knowing the ins and outs of the off-field situation.

If we can find a Kirksey-alike this draft I'll be really pleased. I think Kirksey will benefit having Shelton and a fully stocked DL cupboard, as will Mingo and the other LBs. I actually think Mingo will breakout this year, with his injury to one side. Fingers crossed.

Give me Tre McBride, WR, William & Mary with one of those picks and I will be thrilled. I love his game, and think he's an absolute steal in round 4.

I can also see taking a shot on a QB, like Hundley or Petty, or even a shot on T.J. Clemmings at RT. Be really nice to be able to plug Erving and Clemmings in if/when Mack and Schwartz walk after this year.

Petty or Hundley? I say we grab one if available.

I say we grab Petty and then get the FB (fowler) or WR with the next pick. I think that would be an absolute perfect start to day 3.

I think we need more help on the d-line/OLBer spots. We don't have enough of those guys.

I'd like QB Bryce Petty and either of WRs, Stefon Diggs or Tony Lippett. I'm disappointed TE Heuerman went so early - thought we might get him in the 4th. But its a weak draft for TEs, apparently. Most of the TEs left are either one dimensional or they're projects. Maybe in the 5th or 6th you take a flyer on Blake Bell, TE, Okla or Mycole Pruitt, TE, SIU. Or not. I think the Browns might think they drafted their TE when they signed Housler. So get a QB and a WR in the 4th, then fill the roster with DBs and LBs for special teams. Maybe think about a PK, too.

What time does it start today?

Players I like (AKA Guys we're not drafting):

WRs: Tre McBride, Dezmin Lewis, Darren Waller, DeAndre Smelter
TE: Jesse James
OT: TJ Clemmmings- at this point he's a great value
FB: Jalston Fowler, Jeff Luc (and should be a great special teamer)
Interior OL: Shaq Mason
No QBs

Noon, EST

Believe draft resumes at noon today

The strong 3rd round got my hopes up a bit, so a strong 4th could get me back on the fence at least:

My BPA (in no order):

CB Ekpre-Olomu
CB Bobby McCain (this guy is good)
CB L.Gunter
WR Goodley
WR R.Greene
WR Titus Davis (yeah, we should go WR now)
C Dismukes (smart guy)
C Gallik
TE Rory Anderson
ILB Taiwan Jones
RB Josh Robinson

Best value is at CB, WR and interior OL. Any CB/WR combination of those listed would be good with me

Any decent OT's I was thinking T depth is still somewhat a concern. Also, any TE's worth a hoot at this point?

What safeties do the rest of you like?

Cedric Thompson's my sleeper, but he's more rd 6-UFA.

I don't know that there is a difference maker at TE available at this stage of the draft. If there is a prospect - I'd be interested.

I get the desire to have a burner at WR - but I think Gabriel with an accurate QB and better ground and pound attack will be more than average. And with all the consternation over our QB situation - why do we need a stud WR? Wouldn't that be like having a sports car you can't take out of first gear?

Biggest single area I want addressed at this point is KR/PR - I am not convinced we have a suitable returner on the team and it was a huge area of need last year.

Yikes, I forgot about Jalston Fowler, The Giant FB From Alabama. Gotta grab him now, or in the 5th.

Rory Anderson is pretty talented and would have gone higher if not for an injury plagued SR season

Round 4 is a good round to take a flyer on someone with high talent, but is a risk ...

CB from Oregon, OT from Pittsburgh, Collins from LSU could be good risks

We have good receivers and are solid at TE. I could see drafting maybe 1 receiver.

Petty please!

I heard that Lael Collins' agent announced last night that he wouldn't sign if he was drafted after the 3rd round, so he could re-enter the draft next year, presumably cleared of any involvement in the murder for which he's being sought for questioning.

Duke Johnson and Travis Benjamin. I think the Rabbit will regain his old form another year removed from his injury.

I've heard that, but why?

How high will his draft stock be after taking a year off. Sign a one year deal as a UFA with a team that fits you. You can still get paid next year if you live up to the pre-draft hype. Yeah, you lost a lot of money, but that's done now. Take the accrued year. The only way I see him sit is if he doesn't think he can hack it and is only going to get one payday. If I were the Browns I'd have someone be in his agents ear the rest of the draft. He was supposedly our top RT.

WR: McBride. Kenny Bell.

TE: Blake Bell, converted QB from OK might be worth a shot in the 7th.

QB: I'm tempted to draft Hundley and Petty back-to-back in the 4th. Seriously.

Michael Bennett (OSU) is still out there. Great hands, disruptor, handles double-teams, leader, Dline...Sounds familiar...

Only way I'd be interested in Collins at this point in time would be if he agreed to take a polygraph test. There's something really shady about the police announcing that he was being sought for questioning in a murder investigation just a day or two before the most important event in his life. Its hard to imagine them (the police dept) being that malicious unless they feel he's implicated somehow in the woman's murder. I heard last night that the baby she was pregnant with had also died. Now its a double murder. I have a bad feeling about Collins.

I don't think the police would really give two craps about the NFL draft.

I like 2 of the following.

WR Rashad Greene WR Florida State
TE Nick O'Leary TE Florida State
FB Jalston Fowler FB Alabama

I don't know, Rish ... but I read about how the Tallahassee PD "protected" FSU players (like Winston), and I'm surprised that the Baton Rouge Police wouldn't be aware that they were about to submarine the pro career of an LSU player. I have to believe that LSU football is king in Baton Rouge, and that the Police Dept would be mindful of the PR blowback in the event Collins is innocent. It makes me think they know something ...

I've read that he did pass a lie detector test, I think on the MMQB, I'll see if I can find it again.

Link

A murder investigation trumps the NFL draft in most peoples' world...

Thanks for the link, Grimm. From the article:



It would be better if it was an independent test, but I don't want to quibble. This kid should be screaming his innocence from the rooftops. Maybe I was wrong - it might be worth the gamble to take him.

Of course it does, but the Baton Rouge police went out of their way to say he was sought for questioning, while saying he wasn't a suspect at this time. They also implied he was the father of the victim's baby. If he's innocent - as Grimm's post above indicates - then the Baton Rouge PD's behavior was over the top, IMO.

Maybe I believe the media when they say he's not a suspect but is sought for information. Maybe the lady was murdered halfway across the country from where he was,( I don't know), and the police want to talk to her ex boyfriend,(Collins), to find out about anyone she used to hang out with, or anyone who may have wanted to harm her.

I don't have a bad feeling about Collins.

Geesh! Would you look at that.

Oh my! What a thought. Do you think the Draft will be held in a Stadium in years to come.

100 thousand in the stands to watch the draft. For Free of course.

For now

I'm relatively sure he didn't do it, but I'm not convinced he's completely unconnected. The assassination claim by one witness is disturbing. I'm not sure what to think really, but if he was the top RT on our board he might be worth a pick. We could cut him later if it comes to it.

Sorry Saint Dawg didn't see your post

There went Petty

dang, my hometown boy goes to the Jets

chances we take a guy no one expects us to?

We really should take Hundley if we can. I am aware of his potential problems reading defenses, but he has got to be better than Connor Shaw or Thad Lewis, he has big upside and we have to have more hope than McCown and Johnny.

I think that we will take at least 1 front 7 player in the 4th. It sure seems like that is where a lot of the value is.

With the picks going so fast, I kind of wonder if the NFL didn't finish the round last night, and then wait until today to announce them.
It was like this last year if I recall.

WR, TE QB or the snot smacking fullback from Bama

The only thing he's better than Shaw at is looking the part and throwing picks. Down the road he could potentially surpass him, but we already have our developmental QB in Manziel.

There went the snot smacker

We're going to take an OL and a front 7 payer.

Just watch. We are going to "finish" those 2 units.

Would anyone take a chance on TJ Clemmings? He is a tp quality Tackle, and has slid due to a stress fracture in his let or foot. (I can't recall which off the top of my head)

clemmings just went to minnesota

Welp .... so much for that idea.

Man I really liked Hardy from ECU ...

Just my take....In these rounds I like to start grabbing guys with top potential but injuries. After the 3rd round these dudes rarely pan out into starters or even solid players. I'd grab the guys with the highest potential possible regardless of position needs.

Browns wanted Bryce Petty and Jets traded to move up 1 spot so Browns couldn't get him. Interesting.


Ian Rapoport @RapSheet · 4m 4 minutes ago

Why did # Jets trade up with the # Jaguars just one spot to take Bryce Petty? Because… the # Jaguars had an offer from the # Browns for him

Did I miss something did we trade our 6 and 7 rd picks to get back to back 4th rounders ?

OK, I think that the Browns might take 2 of these guys here:

DL MIchael Bennett
DL Grady Jarrett
WR Rashad Greene
S Gerod Holliman
OL Reese Dismukes

safety from NW

too bad... but that's the way it goes..

When ever we come up to pick they go to commercial , Conspiracy ?

http://www.nfl.com/draft/2015/profiles/ibraheim-campbell?id=2552605

Ibraheim Campbell

EXCELLENT PICK Campbell is a very good safety ...

We traded from #43 (+ our 7th) to #51 and got a 4th and a 6th. We then traded one of our 4th and 6th and got back in the 3rd and a higher 7th.

Did anyone ever figure out if we got Devier Posey?

We had pick 116 and traded to Arizona evidently and are out of the 4th Rd. ... Did we trade for a player?

We must have traded 116 to the Cardinals.

It looks like we have 123 in the 4th.

We traded the 2nd 4th to the Cardinals - what we get??

We never did. He went to the Jets in the Texans trade.

Hopefully a pick or 2 in next year's draft.

Thanks Brother I was getting Anxious

What else did we get 123 and ?

McManamon:

Browns gave up pick 116 in exchange for picks 123, 198 and 241

According to nfl.com we got another 6th and 7th for trading down 7 spots, good deal

we got zona's 4th an 6th for our 4th as far as i can tell, we now have 3 6th's again

Why trade down from 116 to 123, that's what I want to know.

Campbell is an average pick. I can't hate a Campbell pick, if they had Wideouts somewhere!

This whole draft is reminding me so much of the year they took what's his name at Center. One before Melvin Fowler, way back. I wonder if any other team has taken 4 centers in the 1st since 99.
Jeff Faine. the year they took Jeff Faine. Not a good draft that year by the way.

Our D is getting stronger with every pick ... Campbell is a star that was hidden @ Northwestern ...

Wow, we are piling up the low round picks. Must be planning on using them to trade back up again .... maybe back into the 5th since we traded away our 5th yesterday.

Farmer needed a 3rd 6th rounder in case one of the "hot" Nose Tackles falls that far. (in jest!)

It's so fun to watch the perpetually angry Browns fans build more reasons to stay angry!

Campbell is a solid pick, kind of the theme of the draft. Evading high risk guys, drafting low ceiling, high floor prospects. 3rd round was an exception

Campbell has a well rounded game. He's not as physical as written in reports, but in turn, he's not as bad in coverage. Probably being developed behind Whitner to eventually take over. See a recurring theme of this draft? I wonder why they didn't do this last draft already?

I'm telling you guys my NCAA Focus every week is the Big Ten (Ohio State) and this kid from Northwestern can battle for a starting spot which will only make our Safties stronger ... JMHO

So, we have now:

4th - 123

6th - 189

6th - 195

6th - 198

7th - 219

7th - 241

looks like a Leonard type player... Pet likes those.

Lol at the 15 people or so at the Bengals draft party.

Also, Campbell is easily my least favorite pick in our draft so far. Not even the best available at his position.

We Still Need An ILB on D Maybe CB and On Offense we need a WR TE and maybe another OL ...

OK, How about DL Michael Bennett or WR Rashad Green here?

Could we take ..... QB Brett Hundley? (Ugh)

Just on the picks of Sammie Coates, Wr, and Doran Grant, Cb, I like the Steelers draft. Thumbsdown.

Coates has terrible hands ...

And here's my second least-favorite pick.

OK, someone wanted Vince Mayle. Now we got him.

I liked Blake Bell, just went to San Fran.
Surprised a raw TE goes in the 4th. Figured he'd be there later.

I liked Mannion, Mariota, or Winston, but. Am indifferent about the other two.



CONSPIRACY! another commercial with browns on the clock, that's freaking 5 times in a row.

If you want a hard nosed football player take Jake Ryan from That Team Up North ...

Vince Mayle is a thick body with highpointing potential from his basketball skills (reminds me of Niles Paul when he came out of Nebraska) Thought he'd be a round 5-6 guy...I'm at work but who was still available at WR?

Limited FBS experience with an immature past, struggling with motivation and inconsistent focus - had to be convinced to play football after taking a few years off.

http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/draft/players/2079732/vince-mayle

Hmmm....boom or bust flyer obviously

I know nothing about this guy fill me in boys ...

Mayle looks like a naturally talented guy, the type we can carry on our practice squad for a year, then be a No. 5 or 6 guy, then, if he develops, he can go sign with someone else. Taking him just proves that we should have gotten an NFL-ready WR when we were busy drafting 3-deep depth on the DL.

The 24th Wideout.

Vince Mayle.

Even if Nelson Agolhor was the #19 overall, I still would favor Tyler Kroft Te Rutgers at 123, to help the offense.


Oh well, We got Mayle! Now how do I pronounce his last name?

Oh geesh, How happy would yall be if you got the 17th+ D lineman as the first addressing of the position.

Looks like MoMass, Really, are they trying to get Wr's who can't play.

I should not be so negative. He is an athlete and is big and caught 123 passes as a senior.

From the NFL list showing just those with a grade of 5.3 or better;
Player Pos Ht Wt College Grade Watch

Greene, Rashad WR 6'0" 180 Florida St. 5.7
Diggs, Stefon WR 6'0" 190 Maryland 5.5
Goodley, Antwan WR 5'11" 220 Baylor 5.4
Anderson, Dres WR 6'2" 190 Utah 5.4
Smelter, DeAndre WR 6'3" 222 Georgia Tech 5.4
Harper, Josh WR 6'1" 185 Fresno St. 5.4
Waller, Darren WR 6'5" 241 Georgia Tech 5.4
Davis, Titus WR 6'2" 190 Central Michigan 5.4
Lippett, Tony WR 6'3" 185 Michigan St. 5.4
Bell, Kenny WR 6'1" 185 Nebraska 5.3
Alford, Mario WR 5'9" 177 West Virginia 5.3
McBride, Tre WR 6'2" 205 William & Mary 5.3

SI had their top rated available WR as Rashad Greene, out of Florida State.

Man, I wonder why Michael Bennett is dropping like he is.

Mayle reminds me of Greg Little.

Tre McBride, William and Mary
Josh Harper, Fresno St
Dezmin Lewis, Central Ark.

Kiper was talking about McBride at the start of the broadcast, hmm.

Maybe the Browns need to hire a personel consultant on Wide Recievers!

Some of you guys just amaze me, I am sure we picked a player in the 4th rd. looking to put him on the practice squad ...

Supposedly Michael Floyd is on the trade block - really would have liked to get him back from Atlanta rather than the 4th round pick - was sure that we were going that way when the trade came out.

Marcellus Bennett is also on the block, would be another good pickup. We need somebody who can catch passes this year.

Forgive me, Pastor. I already apologized for the knee-jerk negativity.

God Bless Brother

I am for drafting Hundley. He may be developmental, but he has the measurables to become a plus quarterback. Shaw, who I like, does not. Let Johnny F and Hundley have a bake off, and if they both suck, we limp along for a year with McCown.

That's what I was thinking. Never saw him play, but reports are drops, raw talent and rough routes.

I think Bowe, Hartline, Hawkins gives us a "safe" group for now. I support trying to develop a WR project in the late rounds at WR. I see the logic.

Shaq Mason to the Pats.

So let me get this right I hear he has bad hands and some compare him to Greg Little, yet he had 123 catches last year ... WHOA which is I mean if his hands are that bad they must have targeted him 300 times ...

I see enough upside to the kid to be excited. Any and every player taken at this point to the end of the draft is going to have big negatives.

We are about to enter round 5. Does anyone expect Farmer to sit out the entire 5th round, or does he trade back into the 5th? (I think that he trades back into the 5th)

It is Mike Leach's offense. Maybe the Washington/Washington St. game was an aberration, but I saw Greg Little.

Well then give him a big hello from all of us at the Dawg Pound

Both would be be great pickups...Im a big Floyd fan, he hasn't reached his potential due to QB issues over there...He'd face the same issues here too lol

Kroft went to the Bengals in the 3rd round yesterday...least I think

Dolphins have 4 picks in the 5th round if he's looking for a partner. With 3 picks in the 6th round, and a 7th, does anyone see a PK in the offing? Justin Manton anyone?

Thanks for the list...Odd they didn't take WR Diggs for his speed and return ability...as we still have zero PRs on our squad...Then im not sure if Diggs was a punt returner...Only one I was certain for was Ty Montgomery and he went a lot earlier.

That is correct.

Not interested in trading up for a kicker. TE/WR, Jeff Luc, maybe. I'd rather try Lambo from A&M. Still learning the position a bit, as he was a former major league soccer player, but showed some things last year. Can hit the clutch kick, has plus leg strength.

isnt that something. 123 catch and taken 123 over all.

Good luck he didn't have 12 catches. Then we wouldn't have our NT.

I read his bio he actually had 106 reception his senior year ... Not too Bad ...

So.. we have picks 195, 198, 219, 241 left the last 2 are 7th rounders