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Even little old ladies are not safe from the tyranny of the aclu money mongers profiteering from homosexuals persecuting christians trying to live a moral life that doesn't give in to sexual perverts.

1000 fine and over 100,000 in lawer fees to destroy an old woman's retirement fund because she felt she could not bring herself to work for a gay wedding in her 70s. So they systematically destroyed her.

Buy hey same sex marriage doesn't harm Christians right to religion right? WRONG. It doesn't matter that she was willing to sell them flowers like usual but just felt she could not be part of a homesexual marriage ceremony that goes against her religious beliefs. They could have gone elsewhere but it was more important for the ACLU to destroy a poor old lady.

http://www.christianpost.com/news/conser...florist-175205/

Truly an abomination.

Conservatives 'Stunned' by 'Devastating Blow' to Religious Liberty as Court Rules Against Christian Florist
BY STOYAN ZAIMOV , CHRISTIAN POST REPORTER
Feb 17, 2017 | 8:14 AM
Several conservative leaders and organizations are speaking out against the "devastating blow to religious liberty" after the Washington Supreme Court ruled that Christian grandma florist Barronelle Stutzman violated an anti-discrimination law for refusing to provide services for a same-sex wedding.


Barronelle Stutzman, owner of Arlene's Flowers in Richland, Washington, is seen here in her shop.
"Today, religious liberty was dealt another devastating blow as the Washington state Supreme Court ruled against [72]-year-old florist Barronelle Stutzman. Now is the time to rally to her defense and support her," said David and Jason Benham, two conservative brothers who in 2014 lost out on a HGTV house-flipping show after voicing their stances on marriage and abortion.

Russell Moore, president of the Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission of the Southern Baptist Convention, called it not only a "terrible decision" but also a "loss for every American."

"The government should not bully people into violating their conscience," Moore argued on Twitter.

"A govt that can bully consciences into participating and celebrating what the conscience finds immoral is a govt that can do *anything.*"

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Benham Brothers: Sexual Liberty Is 'Crushing' Religious Liberty in America
Stutzman, owner of Arlene's Flowers in Richland, Washington, was sued in 2013 by a gay couple for refusing to make floral arrangements for their same-sex wedding.

In 2015, she was fined $1,001 and held responsible for legal fees after the Benton County Superior Court ruled that she violated the state's nondiscrimination protection on the basis of sexual orientation.

The state's Supreme Court unanimously upheld the lower court's decision on Thursday, with Associate Justice Sheryl Gordon McCloud insisting in the majority opinion that Stutzman's constitutional protections have not been violated.

"Discrimination based on same-sex marriage constitutes discrimination on the basis of sexual orientation. We therefore hold that the conduct for which Stutzman was cited and fined in this case — refusing her commercially marketed wedding floral services to Ingersoll and Freed because theirs would be a same-sex wedding constitutes sexual orientation discrimination under the WLAD (Washington Law Against Discrimination)," the opinion stated.

"We also hold that the WLAD may be enforced against Stutzman because it does not infringe any constitutional protection. As applied in this case, the WLAD does not compel speech or association."

Stutzman had long served Rob Ingersoll, one of the men who sued, selling flowers to him for nearly a decade. But when he asked her to provide flowers for his same-sex wedding, she felt she could not act against her Christian conviction to serve her friend.

The Family Research Council said it was "stunned" by the court's Thursday decision.

"Americans were told repeatedly that redefining marriage would have little impact on their lives. Yet now courts are seeking to drive families from their businesses – and now today even their homes as the result of crippling government imposed fines designed to force them to deny their faith," FRC President Tony Perkins said.

"Cultural elites," he argued, are succeeding in convincing judges to "strip away the livelihoods of people." But he insisted that they will not sway public opinion.

"The Supreme Court must correct this gross injustice and we urge President [Donald] Trump to sign an executive order protecting religious freedom to ensure the federal government does not engage in the same discriminatory behavior as rogue states like Washington," Perkins stated.

"Americans of all backgrounds have suffered the loss of their religious freedoms because of [former President Barack] Obama-era policies. The time to protect religious freedom is now."

Alliance Defending Freedom, the law firm backing Stutzman, has meanwhile issued a call for one million people to donate $24, in order to help the florist appeal the decision to the U.S. Supreme Court.

ADF noted that Stutzman has to pay attorneys' fees "that the ACLU racked up in suing her" and that oftentimes those fees end up costing hundreds of thousands of dollars.

"It is alarming to think that Barronelle, a small business owner and creative professional who loves and respects everyone who walks through her shop's doors, stands to lose all she owns – her retirement, her life savings, her home. It's all at risk simply because her long-time friend and customer asked her to create custom art for one event that violated her conscience," the group wrote.

"This is a devastating loss, and Barronelle needs our prayers."


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I am still waiting for the ACLU to force the Left to get rid of those anti Christian rainbow hate flags.

"We also hold that the WLAD may be enforced against Stutzman because it does not infringe any constitutional protection. As applied in this case, the WLAD does not compel speech or association."

Um... telling an old lady she has to bake a cake for a wedding ceremony IS compelling her to associate! LOL

Candice Wiggins took early retirement from the WNBA because of hetero-bashing.

Wiggins, told The San Diego Union-Tribune that the culture in the league was ''very, very harmful'' and that she was targeted throughout her career for being heterosexual and popular.

She claims that 98% of the league is homosexual.

I’m shocked.

I’m besides myself. And were both shocked.

Gays in the WNBA?

I wish I could put into words how ticked this makes me.

*tolerancemyass

I looked it up and even though it's a small town they could have gone elsewhere to get the floral arrangements. They deliberately did this to her to make her suffer for not accepting their lifestyle. They have now caused her over $200,000 in lawyer fees from their layers and not hers.

This is how they destroy people. They charge an outrageous fee to the client and even though the fine was only $1000 when they add those court costs which include the lower fees they bankrupt people on purpose. This is a SEVERE abuse of power by this judge by awarding such an outrageous settle over a freaking flower arrangement. They know the ACLU is deliberately trying to target and bankrupt any bridal businesses that are Christian and refuse to commit an act they view as against their religion. Flat out profiteering and extortion.

Good ! At least she will have a pulpit to speak from to further her homophobic agenda ... won't have much money but she has her pride . Years past her and her kind would have refused service to minorities , refused to let " them " soil her children's schools . No sympathy for bigoted old hens like her .




Lol jk I could care less but IMO the court got it right .

No, the court didn't.

Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion or prohibiting the free exercise thereof.

Someone is prohibiting her free exercise.

P.S. Ruining the bakers lives in Oregon was one of the reasons you all lost, a small one, but one of many. You're doing it again.

The ACLU is nothing more than a hitman organization for extreme liberals anymore. Except they do it to line their own pockets than for moral justice.

Sodomites just don't get it. It's not fear. It's her religion.

ACLU scorecard:
Number of folks put out of business for refusing to participate with gay weddings - 7
Number of pending lawsuits against businesses who openly vowed to discriminate against Trump supporters - 0

And they wonder why the right hates them so much.

You know the ACLU represented that Milo dude to be allowed to speak at Berkley. And he was supporting nearly everything you seem to be...and then some.

We need a new buzzword ... Christiaphobic?

What are you going to do about it?

It's an honest question. It seems to me like Christians have largely disavowed the 'unsavory' types out there who would dare fight back. Now you're left with these out of control liberals and their all out assault on your religion and way of life, and all you can do is gripe about it on the internet.

Here's a thought: those same liberals will push for dramatically increased immigration from an area of the world where a common view is that homosexuals should be tortured, imprisoned, or killed. That is a maddening lack of consistency when viewed through the lens of gay rights. Change the filter to 'anti-conservative Christian', however, and it makes sense.

And exactly how much money is the ACLU suing Berkley for?
When is the court date?

Yea, that's what I thought.

Thats not even the worst one ... my favorite ...

So 2 Muslims take a job delivering pop, wine, beer and other beverages ... after 6 months working there they decide that delivering alcohol is against there religion so they refuse to deliver it .... they get fired ....

So far ... 1 + 1 = 2 ....

The Muslims sue based on their religious beliefs ... they win 250k each ...

Now ... not quite sure what 1 + 1 equals ... but i know it isn't even close to 2 ....

This country's upside down ... some religions are protected, others aren't ... yup ... that makes sense ... oh well ...