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I am very surprised this isn't already a topic

Sean Spicers Hitler Comments


WASHINGTON — The White House press secretary, Sean Spicer, set off an intense backlash on Tuesday when he suggested that President Bashar al-Assad of Syria was guilty of acts worse than Hitler and asserted that Hitler had not used chemical weapons, ignoring the use of gas chambers at concentration camps during the Holocaust. Mr. Spicer later apologized.

During his daily briefing for reporters, Mr. Spicer was defending President Trump’s decision to order a missile strike on Syria by trying to lend gravity to the actions of Mr. Assad. American officials accuse the Syrian president of using sarin gas, a lethal chemical weapon, in an attack on a rebel-held area of Idlib Province last week that killed dozens, many of them children.

But in misconstruing the facts of the Holocaust — Nazi Germany’s brutally efficient, carefully orchestrated extermination of six million Jews and others — Mr. Spicer instead drew a torrent of criticism and added to the perception that the Trump White House lacks sensitivity and has a tenuous grasp of history.

“We didn’t use chemical weapons in World War II,” Mr. Spicer said. “You know, you had someone as despicable as Hitler who didn’t even sink to using chemical weapons.”

He continued, “So you have to, if you are Russia, ask yourself: Is this a country and a regime that you want to align yourself with?”

The White House charged Tuesday that Russia had sought to cover up the Syrian government’s role in the chemical attack.

Asked to clarify his remarks, Mr. Spicer then acknowledged that Hitler had used chemical agents, but maintained that there was a difference.

“I think when you come to sarin gas, he was not using the gas on his own people the same way that Assad is doing,” Mr. Spicer said, incorrectly, before mentioning “Holocaust centers,” an apparent reference to Nazi death camps.

160,000 to 180,000 Jews killed by the Nazis were from Germany, according to the United States Holocaust Memorial Museum.

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Mr. Spicer’s explanation drew gasps from reporters in the briefing room. The remarks almost immediately elicited outrage on social media and correctives from scholars of the Holocaust.

“Historically, it’s just wrong,” said Deborah Lipstadt, a leading historian of the Holocaust and a professor at Emory University in Atlanta. Mr. Spicer “should not be making comparisons,” Dr. Lipstadt said. “It’s, at the best, not thought out, and at the worst, shows a latent anti-Semitism.”

Shortly after his briefing, Mr. Spicer again tried to clarify his comments, saying in a statement that he was not “trying to lessen the horrendous nature of the Holocaust.”

“I was trying to draw a distinction of the tactic of using airplanes to drop chemical weapons on population centers,” he said. “Any attack on innocent people is reprehensible and inexcusable.”

But the clarification did not quiet calls from some corners, including from Representative Nancy Pelosi of California, the Democratic leader, for Mr. Trump to fire Mr. Spicer.

By Tuesday evening, Mr. Spicer was on CNN, offering a contrite apology. “I was trying to draw a comparison for which there shouldn’t have been one,” he said.

The Trump administration has a history of missteps on the Holocaust. Days after Mr. Trump took office, a White House statement marking International Holocaust Remembrance Day was sharply criticized for failing to directly mention Jews or anti-Semitism.

Nor was Tuesday the only time Mr. Spicer has shown a hazy understanding of world events or appeared not to understand the implications of his words.

On Monday, he said that the president would retaliate against Syria not only if it used chemical weapons, but also barrel bombs. “If you gas a baby, if you put a barrel bomb into innocent people, I think you will see a response from this president,” Mr. Spicer said.


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Barrel bombs are the Assad government’s preferred tool of mass killing; Syrian forces dropped more than 12,000 of them in 2016, according to the Syrian Network for Human Rights. Mr. Spicer’s comments, if taken literally, would signal a much broader American intervention in Syria’s civil war.

Mr. Spicer also said twice on Tuesday that Iran was a “failed state,” lumping it in with North Korea and Syria. Iran, though an adversary of the United States with a history of repression, is a robust, functioning state.


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Meh, seemed to me he was saying that Hitler didn't use Chemical Weapons during the fighting of WWII, which he didn't because he was a Vet of WWI and saw the effects of Gas used in battle.

Everyone already knows Hitler gassed people in his camps.

Spicer should not have gone there. Then tried to explain, which didn't help. Bad move.
He has apologized.

If Nancy wants someone fired to help America, she should fire the nut in the mirror.

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is there a week that Spicer hasn't said something completely stupid?


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His apology was probably worse than the original statement.

I just don't understand why Trump keeps letting this moron speak for him


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Originally Posted By: Swish
is there a week that Spicer hasn't said something completely stupid?



Well he has to speak on behalf of the president...so no.


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11th grade history, 1984 was the year. My history teacher told us that a German spy saw canisters of something on a train. He phones back to Germany saying that we have chemical weapons.

Hitler didn't use them on us because he was afraid we would use them on his soldiers. If he thought for a second he could get away with it he would've done it without hesitation.

Whatever that spy saw, wasn't canisters of chemical weapons. One of those twists of fate that helped our cause in the war.


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Originally Posted By: kingodawg
I just don't understand why Trump keeps letting this moron speak for him


A moron speaking for a moron... Brilliant!


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Hate.

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I actually feel sorry for Spicer. He has to try to excuse everything that goes on. He is not a good speaker and shows what happens when you appoint someone that's really not suited for the job.


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Meh, Shawn is right back at it today, doing his Press Conference. He made a mistake, apologized, and got back to work feeding the sharks.

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I believe he did a fine thing when he apologized. Like I said, when you're really not a good public speaker and you get thrown into a role like that? I just kinda feel sorry for the guy.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Hate.
I didnt really mean it as hate, it was a serious question. I dont understand why this is the guy Trump has speaking for him. I am not trying to bash Trump, just seems the sign of a good leader is hiring good people to fill roles.


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No problem my man, if you look again, I was talking to Old Cold One.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Meh, Shawn is right back at it today, doing his Press Conference. He made a mistake, apologized, and got back to work feeding the sharks.


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At this point, Sean Spicer is the American Baghdad Bob.

I'm pretty sure that he's just a deliberate sideshow.


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I think he has the toughest job in America.

There are no good Hitler references. But in that job, you have to clean up a lot of messes. We do not know what directions he has been given.


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Originally Posted By: ChargerDawg
I think he has the toughest job in America.

There are no good Hitler references. But in that job, you have to clean up a lot of messes. We do not know what directions he has been given.


Ever since Nixon all Presidents have kept their Press Secretary pretty dumb. They always keep them uninformed and out of the loop. That way they can't incriminate the administration. Can't say anything wrong if you don't know anything.

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Worst job in the Western World.

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