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Originally Posted By: RocketOptimist
Vers get banned for a couple of weeks for going ham on YTown over disabilities.

Eve stays around while making baseless claims about my mental state.

All the while she demeans those who legitimately suffer from such a condition with baseless accusations.


Keep my name out of your mouth.

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I understand exactly what I posted.

And what I posted, combined with the other link, says that you have nothing.

This investigation is about trump. Not Hillary. Remember that the next time you try to deflect. Hillary doesn't love you. Let her go.


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That was creepy.

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Anyway, now that I'm done with the deflectors,

Sup with the Tax reform thingy? Is the GOP gonna flop on that, too?


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Plan for U.S. tax increase on rich not being considered: Mnuchin

https://www.yahoo.com/news/plan-u-tax-increase-rich-not-being-considered-135929706.html

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The Trump administration is not considering a plan to raise taxes on the wealthiest Americans in order to pay for tax breaks for the middle class, U.S. Treasury Secretary Steve Mnuchin said on Sunday.
Speaking on ABC's "This Week," Mnuchin said the administration plans to release its tax plan in early September and is aiming for a vote on Congress on it by the end of this year.

The news website Axios reported that Trump's chief strategist Steve Bannon was advocating a proposal to raise the highest tax bracket to 40 percent or above in order to pay for tax cuts on middle-class Americans.
"I've never heard Steve mention that," Mnuchin said.


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Anyway, now that I'm done with the deflectors,

Sup with the Tax reform thingy? Is the GOP gonna flop on that, too?


Gotta get healthcare out the way first so we know how much money we gots left for tax cuts. Caint do one witout the other!

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So that was a response to say "not too good"

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I didn't deflect anything swish. Man, I quoted from the article you posted. If anything, YOU are deflecting.

You thought the article was bad for trump - hence your "yall better hope it's not true" statement.

When in fact, the article sheds more light on hillary and the dnc.


Read to understand. Don't read to have it fit your agenda.

And, as it turns out, supposedly there was nothing to it - on either side.

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Nah, we will get it, just not on yer schedule.

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What agenda do I have? That I don't like the idea of our current president and his people colluding with the Russians to win an election?

Yea, how terrible of me.

The article I posted was about trump jr going to the Russians to get crap on Hillary.

Which is why I said y'all better not hope it's true.

Because that's the family that you voted for. Not me. There's a reason Hillary isn't under investigation for Russian collusion but trump is. Somehow that doesn't register in your brain, though.

This has and always will be about trump. Sorry about it. Which is sad because trump is too stupid to realize he didn't even need the Russians to win. Yet there he is, on stage asking the Russians to find dirt on Hillary for him.


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You have trump poison on your head.

The article YOU posted sheds more dark on hillary and the dnc than anything about trump.

In your hatred of trump, you can't see that.

Allegations of russians financing hillary AND the dnc. Yet you want to make it about trump?

Come on - this is why I can't take most of your political posts for anything other than hatred. If you were white, and trump was a minority, you may be labeled as a racist for your constant ignorant bashing of trump.

The article YOU posted. Keep that in mind. The article YOU posted talked about your girl hillary, and the dnc. Luckily, lynch was involved, so it apparently never got investigated.

Hey, but that clinton foundation is rolling in cash, isn't it?

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Originally Posted By: Swish
What agenda do I have? That I don't like the idea of our current president and his people colluding with the Russians to win an election.


Where did that notion come from? What proof have you, to state it as fact.

As of the article YOU posted, it sounds like the russians were colluding with hillary and the dnc.

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Trump poison? You do realize that he only way I can be poisoned is if I drank whatever trump gave me.

You clearly did. I stopped reading there cause there's no point of discussing this further with you.

Trump jr tried to collude with the Russians to get info on Hillary. That's a problem. Regardless of whatever you have to say on the matter.

I'll take the intelligence community over you all day everyday. Remember that.


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Trump jr is not part of our government.
He is a private citizen and can talk to a Russian, German, Italian Lawyer any time he wants.

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Former CIA Dir. Calls Trump's Words 'Dishonorable Thing to Say'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-cia-dir-calls-trump-060557534.html


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Originally Posted By: Swish
Former CIA Dir. Calls Trump's Words 'Dishonorable Thing to Say'

https://www.yahoo.com/news/former-cia-dir-calls-trump-060557534.html


Don't you mean Obama's CIA Director?
Who Da Thunk It? rolleyes

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Current administration officials say Obama is a Dink.

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Trump poison? You do realize that he only way I can be poisoned is if I drank whatever trump gave me.

You clearly did. I stopped reading there cause there's no point of discussing this further with you.

Nah, you stopped reading because you know I'm right and you have no answer.
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Trump jr tried to collude with the Russians to get info on Hillary. That's a problem. Regardless of whatever you have to say on the matter.

Trump jr. has nothing to do with this. At least, according to the article YOU posted. It was all about russia and hillary and the dnc. Deny it all you want, you posted it, I read it. I even cited it.

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I'll take the intelligence community over you all day everyday. Remember that.


Me too. What does the intelligence community have? So far, nothing. If they do, I'll be all over prosecuting him.

Until then, read what you post first. It makes you look foolish when you don't.

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A Dink? Obama has two daughters. What are you talking about?

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Some of my words don't come from the dictionary.

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I've noticed.

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You're not right. Not even close. You should probably stop patting yourself on the back for victories you don't have. Pretty stuck up of you.

Clearly trump jr had something to do with it, or his name wouldn't be in the article.

The intelligence communities have something, or else there wouldn't be an investigation if they didn't.

Hopefully mueller doesn't find any collusion, but I have a feeling that unfortunately we are dealing with the worst scandal in the US history.


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Perhaps.

And I'm not patting myself on the back. I know as much as you do, which at this time is "ain't nothing to see here". However, you and others have already determined guilt. Unlike with your girl. That investigation got nixed early on, by O's own appointee.

Remember, YOUR post listed hillary and the dnc. Not my post. Not my article. YOURS

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Ok? Russia may or may not have dirt on Hillary.

Time for us to play gumshoe!! I love this game.

Let's have fun with hypotheticals and say the Russians have some dirt on Hillary.

Wouldn't the better play be for them to blackmail Hillary, or collude with Hillary and have her win the election if that was the case? it's well documented that Putin dislikes Hillary. And it's because Putin knows Hillary can and will drop the hammer on him if she was president. I've said this before, sometimes it takes a snake to deal with a snake.

The reality is that he would have zero control over Hillary.

But guess who he does have control - or at the very least, influence- over? The businessman who not only trump, but the trump family has fincacial ties to.

Having Hillary in power does nothing for the Russian agenda. If anything it will make getting things done on putins end much harder.

But trump? The guy who has trashed our allies, weakened our influence in the world and most importantly, weakened the bonds of NATO, the biggest road block to Russia currently, is the better option for the Kremlin.

also, I was the ONLY person on this board who posted about the US charging Russian hackers and spies in the data breach of yahoo in 2014. 500 million accounts, Arch.

500 million accounts were hacked by Russians hackers and spies. That's a fact.

So....the Russians ALREADY hacked American companies. Fact. So it's mind boggling to me how you and Haus and 40 somehow think it's not the Russians who meddled in the election.

Comey already said that trump was their preferred candidate. I think it was fairly obvious to anyone with a brain that the Russians preferred trump over Hillary.

So the question becomes: how did the Russians do it. Who else was involved. Were there Americans involved? If so, who? How far up the food chain does this go?

I've said this before, trump might NOT be guilty. But he's certainly acting like someone who is, or at least someone with so,thing to hide.

Firing 3 people investigating him doesn't look good
Refusing for the longest to acknowledge that Russia hacked us doesn't look good
Going against our intelligence community doesn't look good.
People directly tied to the trump campaign having to recuse themselves for lying about Russian contacts doesn't look good.
Kushner trying to set up backdoor connections to the Russian government doesn't look good
Trump wanting to set up a cyber security unit with the same country that hacked us doesn't look good.
Trashing our allies, but not talking tough to the guy who hacked us doesn't look good.

And I can go on and on.

But what makes me highly critical of trump is.....why is it always Russia? See, if there was multiple countries involved in this, at least I could go "he's a businessman so at least I can see why he's already tied to so many countries".

But it's always just Russia. And that doesn't seem odd to you at all?

That isn't normal. Not one bit of this is normal, nor should it just be swept under the rug.

Because the simply truth is this: if this was Hillary Clinton in the same position that trump is in with Russia, everyone on this board knows EXACTLY how you and others would be commenting on this.

And I posted his on the board plenty of times and none of you conservatives could answer: if all these situations, election and articles played out the same exact way p, except it was Hillary Clinton, you conservatives would blown a blood vessel trying to burn Hillary at the stake.

But because it's trump, you're acting like there's nothing to see here. You have made it perfectly clear that it's not about what is being done, but WHO is doing it.









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Hey, you're the one that posted an article linking your gal hillary, and the dnc, to russian finances. Not me.

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Lol. You posted that article as some sort of "gotcha" moment (evidenced by your statement that "y'all better hope it's not true"), and all it said was that a Russian Lawyer told Trump Jr. that some Russians were supporting Hillary. Why are you continuing to argue with Arch? Cut your losses, dude.


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Cut what losses? Jr is meeting with Russians like some mafia movie trying to get dirt on enemies.

And since when should I believe the Russians are telling the truth about having dirt on the dnc and Hillary working with the Russians? You mean he same country that told you they didn't meddle in our election?

You guys are gullible, yet somehow I'm the one taking the loss? Since when did blind trust override common sense and skepticism?


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Cut what losses? Jr is meeting with Russians like some mafia movie trying to get dirt on enemies.

You guys are gullible, yet somehow I'm the one taking the loss? Since when did blind trust override common sense and skepticism?


I see it this way...

-Dad is running for President and I am not part of the campaign, I am a private citizen.
-My bud calls me and says you should meet with this person who says they have damaging info on Hillary.
-I think, I want to hear that info, maybe its big.
-I go to the meeting, the person has nothing, we talk a bit about starting up Americans being able to adopt Russian children again. This person is not qualified for the conversation so I break up the meeting.

-Zero collusion.
-The Press desperately makes another mountain out of a molehill.

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Originally Posted By: archbolddawg

Is it possible, in your mind, that perhaps currently they want to do a thorough job, so that when they reach their conclusion, be it good or bad for trump, they can/will have proof of innocence OR proof of issues that could he could be charged with?

That ever enter your mind?


That's always been in my mind. It's actually what I've always stated had you bothered to actually read any of my posts. I've never presumed Trump was guilty. Just that they obviously felt there was a cause to investigate and they plan to do a thorough job.

It's also been my position that we won't know what they did or didn't find until the investigations were complete.

I will say that there were so many of his associates that flat out lied about having meetings with the Russians that I believe if there is anything found that it would more than likely be part of his staff that they find to have issues than Trump himself and that those lies are the reason these investigations were started in the first place.

It sounds like your post should have been for some other posters on this board besides me actually.


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You're just talking in circles to excuse the fact that it's the GOP investigating Trump's inner circle. You want to blame the Dems and the media for something the GOP is doing. In case you missed it, Rosenstein was appointed by Trump. Rosenstein named a special prosecutor.

Your double talk won't change those facts. It also won't change the facts that it's the GOP led senate and congress investigating these things.

The funny part is I've never said any of them were guilty. I've just said that obviously they have some type of suspicion to base these investigations on. You can't even accept that and have 101 excuses.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Trump jr is not part of our government.
He is a private citizen and can talk to a Russian, German, Italian Lawyer any time he wants.


Well then there's the pesky fact that Kushner was there too.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

Gotta get healthcare out the way first so we know how much money we gots left for tax cuts. Caint do one witout the other!


Yeah we gotta see how many poor people we can take healthcare away from to line the pockets of the rich.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

Gotta get healthcare out the way first so we know how much money we gots left for tax cuts. Caint do one witout the other!


Yeah we gotta see how many poor people we can take healthcare away from to line the pockets of the rich.


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Russia if you're listening?


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

Gotta get healthcare out the way first so we know how much money we gots left for tax cuts. Caint do one witout the other!


Yeah we gotta see how many poor people we can take healthcare away from to line the pockets of the rich.


You are now officially the MSNBC of Dawg Talkers. rofl



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