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PFF Ranks 5 Browns in the top 10 at their positions through 3 games


It may not feel as good as a winning record, but the numbers are saying the Cleveland Browns may be onto something when it comes to their roster. For the year to date, Pro Football Focus has ranked five Browns players in the top 10 at their respective position, based upon their data collection methods and analytical formula. The three-game grades for these five for 2017 are also impressive.

The five players are tight end Seth DeValve (sixth, with a 79.6 grade), guard Joel Bitonio (ninth, with an 83.0 grade, but eighth with an 83.8 grade for this season), left tackle Joe Thomas (first, with a 89.8 grade), cornerback Jason McCourty (previously fourth, now third, at 86.7) and safety Derrick Kindred (10th, at 85.3).

DeValve’s biggest strength is in the passing game, with a PFF grade of 81.1; he has caught eight passes on 14 targets so far this season, for 132 yards, averaging 44 yards per game and second on the roster to Duke Johnson in receiving yards. The passing game—pass-blocking in particular—is where Bitonio has earned his highest marks, with only three other guards grading out better.

McCourty has grades of 85.8 and 86.3 in pass coverage and run defense, respectively, and its reflected in the stat sheet, with 11 tackles, an interception, three pass breakups and a forced fumble so far this season. Kindred, meanwhile, has been a run defense standout, with a 92.8 grade that is tops in the league for safeties; he leads the Browns in tackles for a loss with four. Thomas has allowed only two quarterback pressures through three games.

That the Browns not only have five top-10 players is impressive enough, but that they are spread between both the offense and the defense shows signs that the roster, as a whole, is robust and improving. Though it is not reflected in the Browns’ record at present, this is a further indication that the team is trending upward. In-house talent, veteran signings and young players alike are all making homes for themselves among the NFL’s best.

https://www.dawgsbynature.com/2017/9/27/...through-3-games

I've been pleased with Devalve, Kindred, and McCourty thus far. None are "good" players, but they haven't hurt us (and I actually think Devalve might be good for his career).

I'd also say that Thomas and Bitonio SHOULD be that good ... it's just amazing that we can't run the ball. (Zeitler has been disappointing thus far IMO too)

I really like kindred, but the guy has got to stay healthy.

Don't understand your "good" player statement....using bell curve after 3 games....I'd say they were "outstanding" players...graded A....it's a long season, will be REAL interesting how the final grades come out.....GO Browns!!!!

My feeling is that Collins & Peppers are really killing us on D, time for the DC to stop the bleeding....

We have no defenders with superior ball hawk and game instincts, so we will be bleeding yards if we continue to play with so much space...

On O, RBs and Wr's are just putrid

It's hard to even contribute in a thread like this or think in a positive nature.

We're a poor football team, we need help everywhere.

I would add Taylor as well. not good most of the time. Do your job.

Ok, the BS meter just jumped. Did you even bother to think what you were typing? Top 10 at their positions and you say that their not good? I think that were getting there, just need some more time.

Kindred could make the Pro Bowl this year if he keeps playing at this level.

I haven't watched McCourty enough to form an opinion.

Safety Valve just needs to continue to work on getting separation.

This is along the lines of the expectation I had for this year.

We may not win games, and we may have setbacks in certain weeks with our performance and improvement... and all of that sucks... but I want to be able to look back at the end of the year and see an overall, marked, definite improvement.

If I hold back week-to-week judgement, I want to be able to look back over the season and see improvement mostly, if not totally, across the board.

j/c:

I questions PFF's grades at times, especially in the secondary. It's like if a guy blows his zone coverage responsibilities, he gets a pass because he is not close enough in coverage.

Anybody watching the game knows our secondary stinks.

I dont want to hear about all this talent the Browns have acquired
I've been those hallow words since the Davis years and with every regime since
I want to see actual meaningful wins

yeah, i'm pretty apathetic to the "fluff" too

Kindred and McCourty have looked awesome.

No, they haven't.

Certainly agree on Kindred. His progress from year one to year two has been a bright spot.

It’s been readily evident to anyone who watches the Browns defense. No. 26 in brown and orange is always near the ball and typically also near the line of scrimmage. The 2016 fourth-round pick from TCU has 16 total tackles, two pass breakups and an interception.

Pro Football Focus (PFF) has taken note. Kindred is the top-ranked run defending safety in the league so far according to their grading,

Second-year safety Derrick Kindred has eight run stops and an 11.3 run stop percentage. Both of those are those are the highest rates for safeties to start each game this season.

Typically playing as the “up” safety while rookie Jabrill Peppers roams the deep realms, Kindred’s primary job is to attack the run and cover backs and outlet receivers in the passing game. He is doing both at a very high level, showing both great athleticism and instincts.

Link

PFF Grades Kindred out at "High Quality"