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No. The thread continues as Trump will not allow this invasion to happen.

Mexico doesn't have to deal with subversive Liberal/Progressives like we do. Mexico will round these people up and ship them back as President Trump is requesting. thumbsup

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If Trump has so much control over Mexico, why aren't they paying for the wall?


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No. The thread continues as Trump will not allow this invasion to happen.


Do you realize that this is an annual thing... and has been going on since 2010? And do you realize that illegal immigrant populations have declined in those years.

So where is this "invasion?"
What has its effects on our numbers been?

Here's what just happened: Dolt45® woke up, saw some bs on the Faux & Fiends and launched a twitter-based propaganda blitz. His 12 brain cells are enough to outwit/influence your 6, and here we are... watching you attach yourself to the shiny object he dangles.





There's a bigger issue that needs to be addressed.
I'll be discussing it with folks who actually have a sense of disciple and focus.


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You really have no clue about the difference do you.

This time a Liberal/Progressive group called Nations Without Borders went down there to organize them into an anti Trump show.

As usual, the Libs will destroy these people in the name of the agenda. Like they do with everything touch.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
You really have no clue about the difference do you.

This time a Liberal/Progressive group called Nations Without Borders went down there to organize them into an anti Trump show.

As usual, the Libs will destroy these people in the name of the agenda. Like they do with everything touch.


Looks like he is serious.

Trump says military to guard borders

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No. The thread continues as Trump will not allow this invasion to happen.


Do you realize that this is an annual thing... and has been going on since 2010? And do you realize that illegal immigrant populations have declined in those years.

So where is this "invasion?"
What has its effects on our numbers been?

Here's what just happened: Dolt45® woke up, saw some bs on the Faux & Fiends and launched a twitter-based propaganda blitz. His 12 brain cells are enough to outwit/influence your 6, and here we are... watching you attach yourself to the shiny object he dangles.





There's a bigger issue that needs to be addressed.
I'll be discussing it with folks who actually have a sense of disciple and focus.
You mean having Everify that the left so adamantly opposes? Or California suing companies complying with the law? The issue(s) are squarely on the left.

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You really have no clue about the difference do you.

This time a Liberal/Progressive group called Nations Without Borders went down there to organize them into an anti Trump show.

As usual, the Libs will destroy these people in the name of the agenda. Like they do with everything touch.


Looks like he is serious.

Trump says military to guard borders


Trump will git er done whatever it takes. thumbsup
I am hearing reports that Mexico is breaking up the Caravan as we speak but I don't have anything to post on it yet.

Stay tuned!

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Another bald-faced lie you were fed.
Do you gobble this with a fork, or do let FOXbots blend it into a rich, aromatic smoothie for you first?


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Nations Without Borders


would be translated Humane Borders, after running it through the fact filter. They are a humanitarian non-profit that has, as its mission statement:

"Our primary mission is to save desperate people from a horrible death by dehydration and exposure and to create a just and humane environment in the borderlands."

Here's the front page of my Google search using your group's name. It names a movie, an op-ed blog about pollution and climate change, and a review of a book by Thomas Sowell. Interestingly, your sinister organization is nowhere to be found.

It seems they don't exist.
Wow.
Surprise.

fork, straw or spoon... you're pretty flexible that way, ain'tcha?
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Once again, you got yourself.

This “caravan” of migrants has been organized by a self-described humanitarian group called “Pueblo Sin Fronteras,” translated: People without Borders. In a press release posted on Facebook on March 23, the group issued a series of demands to the governments of several Central American countries, the United States, and Mexico.

They demand that the United States “open the borders to us because we are as much citizens as the people of the countries where we are and/or travel.”

They also call for an end to deportations of illegal immigrants in the U.S., a continuation of temporary protected status for refugees, and for the United States to defund the Mexican government’s programs detaining migrants to deport them.

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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Once again, you got yourself.

This “caravan” of migrants has been organized by a self-described humanitarian group called “Pueblo Sin Fronteras,” translated: People without Borders. In a press release posted on Facebook on March 23, the group issued a series of demands to the governments of several Central American countries, the United States, and Mexico.

They demand that the United States “open the borders to us because we are as much citizens as the people of the countries where we are and/or travel.”

They also call for an end to deportations of illegal immigrants in the U.S., a continuation of temporary protected status for refugees, and for the United States to defund the Mexican government’s programs detaining migrants to deport them.
sounds like a left thinkers dream!

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this was covered on page one.


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
Once again, you got yourself.

This “caravan” of migrants has been organized by a self-described humanitarian group called “Pueblo Sin Fronteras,” translated: People without Borders. In a press release posted on Facebook on March 23, the group issued a series of demands to the governments of several Central American countries, the United States, and Mexico.

They demand that the United States “open the borders to us because we are as much citizens as the people of the countries where we are and/or travel.”

They also call for an end to deportations of illegal immigrants in the U.S., a continuation of temporary protected status for refugees, and for the United States to defund the Mexican government’s programs detaining migrants to deport them.
sounds like a left thinkers dream!


Would it surprise you if many members of this board actually AGREE AND SUPPORT this list of demands?

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Once again, you got yourself.

This “caravan” of migrants has been organized by a self-described humanitarian group called “Pueblo Sin Fronteras,” translated: People without Borders. In a press release posted on Facebook on March 23, the group issued a series of demands to the governments of several Central American countries, the United States, and Mexico.

They demand that the United States “open the borders to us because we are as much citizens as the people of the countries where we are and/or travel.”

They also call for an end to deportations of illegal immigrants in the U.S., a continuation of temporary protected status for refugees, and for the United States to defund the Mexican government’s programs detaining migrants to deport them.
sounds like a left thinkers dream!


Would it surprise you if many members of this board actually AGREE AND SUPPORT this list of demands?
about as much as barry becoming a millionare while he was president......

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No. The thread continues as Trump will not allow this invasion to happen.


Do you realize that this is an annual thing... and has been going on since 2010? And do you realize that illegal immigrant populations have declined in those years.

So where is this "invasion?"
What has its effects on our numbers been?

Here's what just happened: Dolt45® woke up, saw some bs on the Faux & Fiends and launched a twitter-based propaganda blitz. His 12 brain cells are enough to outwit/influence your 6, and here we are... watching you attach yourself to the shiny object he dangles.





There's a bigger issue that needs to be addressed.
I'll be discussing it with folks who actually have a sense of disciple and focus.


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The caravan is more of a human rights march in my opinion. But the thought of 1200 Mexicans marching on the border terrifies the GOPers. Has Trump soiling himself.

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The caravan is more of a human rights march in my opinion. But the thought of 1200 Mexicans marching on the border terrifies the GOPers. Has Trump soiling himself.

The thought of 1200 foreigners openly challenging our national borders should terrify everybody. Not because they are some invading violent physical threat.. but the symbolism is pretty scary.... The other thing that is scary is how many Americans I see that are perfectly willing to just open the gate and let them in. I guess we will have to wait and see what happens if/when they actually get to the border.


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The other thing that is scary is how many Americans I see that are perfectly willing to just open the gate and let them in.


I'm not one of them.
I've been branded as such by a small, feces-throwing minority at this site, but it's not true. Until recently, I never weighed in on this subject beyond mocking Dolt45© for his st00pitazz see-through wall

I've merely said that a wall is a colossal waste of money that could be better spent in other ways- still in the name of border security.
Money (and focus) that would yield tangible results that a 2,000 mile-long wall could never provide.

It's late, and I don't want to start a new WoT. Besides, I'm elsewhere
in other threads recently talking about this, so I'm sure you've probably seen my stuff. A physical structure is the least-effective 'deterrent' to this problem.

The Real Answer is something nobody wants to employ.
Because there will be discomfort, up-front. Lots of it.

The Real Answer requires America to look at herself- and fix not one or two- but a myriad of weaknesses- all at once. Ongoing. Overlapping. And not all directly related to ethnicity, yet all still interconnected. Class. Power. Influence. Info/data.

This nation (and the planet) is at a craptangle of intersections. Toffler spoke of this almost 50 years ago, and it's a constant daily factor now.

Great jumping-off place for more talk, imho.


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I've been branded as such by a small, feces-throwing minority at this site, but it's not true.

Of course you are, now get back in your box. tongue

Good post Clem...


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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
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You really have no clue about the difference do you.

This time a Liberal/Progressive group called Nations Without Borders went down there to organize them into an anti Trump show.

As usual, the Libs will destroy these people in the name of the agenda. Like they do with everything touch.


Looks like he is serious.

Trump says military to guard borders


Trump will git er done whatever it takes. thumbsup
I am hearing reports that Mexico is breaking up the Caravan as we speak but I don't have anything to post on it yet.

Stay tuned!


Trump praises Mexico for stopping caravan, avoiding 'giant scene' at border

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/...-at-border.html

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STOPPING THEM amounts to us giving them coffee and donuts in an interview room and then we RELEASE THEM INTO THE US


So "us" and "we" that you speak of, are the US customs agents and U.S. border patrol paid by our tax dollars and are serving the Trump Administration. Are you saying they are breaking the law? It's all on Trump's watch and the border agents who you proclaim are now releasing illegals into the U.S.


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U have no clue here .... go google it menZa ...

Talk about running your mouth with no clue about whats going on ....




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U have no clue here .... go google it menZa ...

Talk about running your mouth with no clue about whats going on ....



rofl Says the guy who blindly follows a pathological liar and deplorable president. Go google sheep.


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You really have no clue about the difference do you.

This time a Liberal/Progressive group called Nations Without Borders went down there to organize them into an anti Trump show.

As usual, the Libs will destroy these people in the name of the agenda. Like they do with everything touch.


Looks like he is serious.

Trump says military to guard borders


Trump will git er done whatever it takes. thumbsup
I am hearing reports that Mexico is breaking up the Caravan as we speak but I don't have anything to post on it yet.

Stay tuned!


Trump praises Mexico for stopping caravan, avoiding 'giant scene' at border

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2018/04/...-at-border.html


Whoever thought up the stunt of gathering more than 1,000 Central Americans in a caravan to travel across a complicit Mexico toward the U.S. border had no idea of the opportunity they were giving President Trump.

If we ever needed to demonstrate the case for a strong border wall, this supposed Central American invasion of our southern border will convince most Americans.

This may all change, but for the moment, President Trump is winning and the elite media is not.

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I never weighed in on this subject beyond mocking Dolt45© for his st00pitazz see-through wall


Of all of the "this sounds like someone got hit in the head with a hammer before being asked to speak publicly" comments Trump makes anytime he opens his mouth, the "wall has to be clear otherwise people will be killed by flung bags of drugs" is an underrated top 5.

It literally sounds like something a kindergartener would say.

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You mean having Everify that the left so adamantly opposes? Or California suing companies complying with the law? The issue(s) are squarely on the left.


I oppose it for financial reasons as well as the rest of false positives. I think it's lame that I have to be responsible for ensuring the govt can keep track of who is legal or not. And if someone gets a TNC it can cost alot of time and money to clear up. cato institute

If I hire someone and the TNC I would be hesitant not just to train but pay them... Companies like Intel had false positive rates of 12% using the system. It needs to be significantly improved to be rolled out.


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A physical structure is the least-effective 'deterrent' to this problem.


I keep seeing critics of the Wall keep saying this... but in order to say this and it be fact, it has to ignore literally thousands of years of engineering.

No, maybe a Wall isn't going to make someone so scared they won't even try to come across, but what it will do, and it's actual purpose, is to control the flow of people.

Why do we put 6' and 8' privacy fences around our homes? To keep people out.

Why do we put razor wire on top of 10-20 ft fences? To keep people out (or in depending....)

Now, there are many problems and nuances with the whole Israeli vs. Palestinian conflict... but since the Israelis built there wall a number of years back, they have experienced a significant decline in the number of suicide bombings.

Hell, the Chinese built a freakin Wall you can see from space!

What was that wall in Berlin called...?

Walls, fences, moats, hedges, red velvet ropes, the lay out of your local grocery store... those are all physical means used to direct the flow of people. And THAT is what it is about.

So I'm sorry, I can't buy this claim that a Wall on the border would be a waste and impractical. There's too much actual history that shows it would make a significant impact.

Additionally, an actual Wall will also contribute to reducing costs of Security over the long run as your human elements of security can now be directed to specific areas instead of this needle in the hay stack approach and things like electronic surveillance can be used to supplement what they do.


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This video brings up a good point about Trump demonizing Mexicans and always portraying himself as the great leader who will protect the US, while at the same time always blaming others for betrayal when things don't go his way. Great Leader and Victim seem to be the only cards in his jokers deck.

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I read an article this week talking about how Trump is constantly playing the victim card - he owns nothing, is the constant victim - as is the USA ... and all it does is drive a wedge and drive people further and further apart. I hadn't thought of it in those terms but it resonated.


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Well if that is true I know where he learned it.

From you Liberal/Progressives who have been victims of everything there is over the years.

Victims of Racism and all the things you list as racist these days.
Victims of the Rich and successful.
Victims of the Russians because Trump won.
Victims of Corporations and Profitable businesses.
Victims of the Constitution.
Victims of Capitalism.
Victims of the Police.
Victims of Law and Order.
Victims of the Man.

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And people get pissed when I point out that Trump is using the same tactics Obama did. The only real difference is their style.


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And people get pissed when I point out that Trump is using the same tactics Obama did. The only real difference is their style.


I think they share far more in common/style than their fans want to admit, but oh no, absolutely not.

Trump is one of the dumbest people in American history. He has the brain of a small child. You can explain simple things to him over and over, and his brain won't be able to comprehend them.

Obama was an intelligent person. Bad president? Absolutely? Reasons to dislike him? Certainly?

But, c'mon. Trump has oatmeal for brains. There's big differences there.

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And people get pissed when I point out that Trump is using the same tactics Obama did. The only real difference is their style.


I think they share far more in common/style than their fans want to admit, but oh no, absolutely not.

Trump is one of the dumbest people in American history. He has the brain of a small child. You can explain simple things to him over and over, and his brain won't be able to comprehend them.

Obama was an intelligent person. Bad president? Absolutely? Reasons to dislike him? Certainly?

But, c'mon. Trump has oatmeal for brains. There's big differences there.


This post has me torn lol

I used to believe that in order to get to the highest levels of office you had to be smart. Even people I disliked, and who did stupid things... I just don't think it's possible for genuinely stupid people to get that far in life.

Trump is not an imbecile. An egomaniac? Absolutely. The kind of guy who thinks he has all the answers? Yep. All the bestest answers LOL His A to B is a lot shorter than what most people are used to. He's a showman, no argument there, a modern P.T. Barnum minus a few sideshow freaks (or maybe with all the sideshow freaks depending on your viewpoint).

I don't write this favorable assessment of him because I like the guy. I don't see anything in his behavior any different than all the politicians before him. He's just much more in your face, I DGAF than what we are used to seeing.

I give it based on who you see around him. Look at the people closest to him, in family and business. Melania, Ivanka, Eric, Don Jr, even little Baron. They are all very disciplined.. so much so that if you didn't know Trump was related to them, you'd never guess it. That to me says there's a different Trump behind closed doors. But I could be wrong.

Trump thrives on chaos and has the (im)morality to stir it up when he thinks he can benefit from it.

As for Obama... yeah, he definitely carried himself as a much more intelligent person... quite professorial really. But the guy was as inarticulate as GW off prompter. You've criticized Trump for his lack of understanding of how healthcare works... I'd argue that Obama showed just as poor of an understanding of how healthcare and economics works and I point to his stumps for the ACA.

He also showed time and again a lack of understanding basic Constitutional principles.. particularly bad for a man said to be a "Constitutional Scholar". I suspect thought that his lack of understanding is really more of a reflection of disagreeing with the philosophy and intent of it's creation. In an interview he criticized the Founders for creating a framework of gov't that only talks about what the gov't couldn't do to you (i think he called it negative Rights)... and not what the gov't is supposed to do for you. Anyone with even a cursory understanding of the formation of the Constitution knows that it was constructed that way on purpose.

It is what it is.

I don't know brother, what's it say about us collectively that we voted for a guy like Trump on one side, and the other side couldn't find anyone better? LOL


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U know devil .... i keep wondering what Trump could have accomplished in business if he wasn’t such a dumb ass ...

I mean all i read on here from the menZas is what an idiot he is and how stupid he is .... i just wonder how much more he could have accomplished if he actually had a brain ...

I’d say hes gotten the most out of that pea he has for a brain .... rofl




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not surprised that i pretty much disagree with everything you stated in this post.

and trying to use his kids as an example?

you mean the same jr who got caught trying to collude with russian lawyer, then try to lie about it saying it was about russian adoption?

the same jr who is a regular poacher?

the same jr, who just like dad, can't stop cheating on his wife?

dont get me started on eric.

melania and baron are fine, but lets not act like melania isn't a trophy wife. she wasn't picked because of her high character. she was picked because she is the mistress of trump's second wife, who has a history of marrying his mistresses.

you absolutely wrong, this assessment because you like him, which is based on a lot of BS.

he isn't like obama whatsoever. obama isn't a draft dodger, obama is intelligent, and obama never sold his country out to russian oligarchs.

and constitutional principles? can you name a time where obama fired the people investigating him? cause i can't. can you name a time where obama tried to fire the special counsel looking into him? cause i can't.

you're talking about the same guy who throws hissy fits because he thinks the DoJ is suppose to do his personal bidding for him.

lol @eric and jr being disciplined. and his business?

are you serious? clearly you got your criminal justice degree from trump university, because no one who actually takes a solid look at his business practices would ever claim that BS you just did.


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Where's the caravan now? Who's tracking it? It only takes a day or two to drive across Mexico. What's taking them so long?


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Where's the caravan now? Who's tracking it? It only takes a day or two to drive across Mexico. What's taking them so long?


The Caravan has turned into a Circus and the clowns are headed back to Honduras with their Liberal/Progressive handlers crying a trail of tears.

Why?

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Where's the caravan now? Who's tracking it? It only takes a day or two to drive across Mexico. What's taking them so long?


Because, apparently, they are doing a lot of walking?

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Where's the caravan now? Who's tracking it? It only takes a day or two to drive across Mexico. What's taking them so long?


The Caravan has turned into a Circus and the clowns are headed back to Honduras with their Liberal/Progressive handlers crying a trail of tears.



rofl Their not turning around. And if you knew anything at all you'd know Last year at the same time they came through Mexico, and a majority amount of the migrants planned on staying in Mexico and asked for asylum or refugee status there and wasn't even trying to enter the U.S.A. Security threat–border crossings are at record lows since Obama took office.


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Where's the caravan now? Who's tracking it? It only takes a day or two to drive across Mexico. What's taking them so long?


Because, apparently, they are doing a lot of walking?


Where are they?


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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted By: archbolddawg
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Where's the caravan now? Who's tracking it? It only takes a day or two to drive across Mexico. What's taking them so long?


Because, apparently, they are doing a lot of walking?


Where are they?


You're on a computer, why should I do your work? (oh, that's right, it's you)

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They've reached Puebla, a city southeast of Mexico City and more than 700 miles from Brownsville, Texas.
While many will stay south of the US border to find work, some 200 or so migrants plan to continue their journey into the United States.


https://www.cnn.com/2018/04/06/us/mexico-caravan-migrants-stories/index.html (not sure how long that link will last. CNN seems to, after you watch a vid, it takes you to the next article right away)






Now, how about your taxes? How did yours more than double?

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