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Enough that the poor, children and the elderly are taken care of.

Be selective in who you support based on who they hurt and who they protect. Hopefully you can take it from there.

I always thought if ten percent was good enough for God then it should be good enough for the government.

Meanwhile trump threw DVos under the school bus and became the false hero he is and declared that SO will be funded. He’s such a socialist. And spending continues to skyrocket under trump. Oh my the rich may have to pay some taxes soon or we’re going under. MAGA!

There are actually three tithes. First, second and third tithes. If you doubt it I can provide the proof.

And let's see, their military only used bows and arrows combined with swords. That's pretty budget friendly. There were no interstate highway systems. I could go on but I think you get the point.

That's freaking hilarious, Tax cuts always make money for the government, because more business is done and "revenues go up".
Left thinking is so messed up.

Just like remember when the economy grew Negative - to -zero percent during the Obama+ democrat congress years, and Unemployment became the largest employer in the United States,
and he, Obama, gave away 2 to 7 trillion, (I forget) of "printed money" that didn't exist,
called the "stimulous package".

If the left took the energy they put into stealing more taxes and demanding people eat kale and recycle, into something actually productive,
we'd all live in such a better place.

Well let's hope they go up by more than a trillion dollars.

It appear you must have missed it. We haven't been on the gold standard for decades and have always printed more money.

It's nice that you think we should keep lining the pockets of big business while taking from people who already have virtually nothing. The elderly on Social Security, our education system, the elderly on medicare.

Let me ask you this. If the tax cuts worked so well, why is the budget continuing to rise and cuts have to be made to make up for the short fall?

The trade deficit is at a ten year high.

The monthly deficit hit an all time high at 243 billion.

Yeah, it's all working out great!

Trickle down economics doesn't work. That's been proven.

The economy was booming - Trump's tax cuts did absolutely NOTHING to stimulate or maintain the economy. Suggesting otherwise is foolish. The facts don't support what you are trying to suggest.

This never ceases to amaze me, the more I read the more it doesn't make sense.

You think sending in money to democrat politician ideas fulfills the scripture to give to the least of these as like Jesus?

You are giving taxes to corrupt government ideas, and the government isn't helping them anyway.

It's about what "you" do with "your" money to help the least of these, not using a proxy called the federal government.

I guess Jesus is going to come to all the democrats and they'll have the " I gave at the office" excuse,
"see, I gave taxes", they'll say.

Jesus says, in as much as you did it unto the least of these my bretheren, ...

and democrats will say, " we raised taxes, " cool?

Just glad when democrats see

the poor, the tired, the huddled masses, longing to breath free, they can look on them and think

" if we could just get a government beaurocrat in here, on the scene, to give these huddled masses a mountain of forms to fill out, and an electronic card system,
and a kickback rebate, so later on there can be a complicated algorithym, to make sure only the correct voting type of poor and tired huddled masses, can get relief and food, that they'll get a paper check, and directions to a BMV office
where they can stand in line in wait for a magistrate, which is available during business hours, and not govt holidays,
and a colored ribbon to wear,
and watch a bunch of caring, (like minded individuals) walk a quarter marathon in support,

and read blogs of how teachers somewhere are on strike to make this all possible,

as they starve there way to government aid, to find out they aren't the correct gender identity, or racial makeup, or view holding thought policed, sub group

to get any help, but don't worry,

They'll direct them to another line to wait in,
and another beaurocrat,
and anther new system, like a "new" aid program
that will have to be funded with more gov't money

that'll require more taxes go up

For "anybody!" who is actually trying to scrape by and "make it" through hard work,

which ... you know..., will uhh, cause more of them to fall into poverty, (who?, the ones trying to overcome by personal responsibility and hard work, and self reliance,) ... them, cause more of them to fall into the realms, and roles of the huddled masses

So Everybody in the country can become a "huddled masser"
reliant on the all "helpful" all "powerful" government system.

Hey, look at history, it always works out great??? NOT!

The left think they are so smart.
I think they are just the most "educated"
and I think the education they get is just so wrong.

( It's like Reagan said.)

It's not that our democrat friends don't know anything...
It's just that there's so much they know, that just isn't so.

...

I love you Jesus. I'm going to go give to the poor.

I never understood why an organization that is headed up by an omnipotent being needs you to give them money in the first place... smh

Good luck explaining how you helped people line the pockets of the rich while taking from the poor. He'll get a real kick out of that one.

Putting aside the emotional aspect, I completely agree . Looking at the bigger picture(like Arch was). There are many things like this that can and should be cut. The private sector should be funding this stuff, not the government.

I think the Special Olympics is a great thing, and want it to do well and continue on without thinking the goverment should fund it

The government simply supplements their funding. Filling the gap left from private funding. The Special Olympics does a wonderful job of raising private funds to the tune of around 100 million dollars. The government simply fills in the shortfall it needs to the tune of less than 18 million dollars.

I understand that , but look at the bigger picture and all those 18 million dollar 'supplements" add up.

I think a lot of cuts can be made. The biggest waste I've seen come in the defense department budget. I mean they spend money on weapons systems the Pentagon doesn't even want.

I just think you need to pick and choose where you make those cuts.

Pentagon Tells Congress to Stop Buying Equipment it Doesn't Need

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2015...oesnt-need.html

Just because Don Jr. and Eric couldn't post times fast enough to make the cut in the 300 meter race is no excuse to be vindictive and cut programs for those with special needs.

What does that post have to do with the topic?

I was responding to another poster. did you want to join in or just stirring up crap?

And, for once. Arch made a good point. Nobody wants the cut to come from something important to them . You cut funding to Special Olpympics? Oh you hate disabked people . To the NAACP, you hat
e back people, to the Association to combat inbreeding, you dont like Steelers fans.

If all these people are up in arms because funding for Special Olympics is being cut , then maybe they should send money in and make up the difference.

Best line ever!

had me chuckling, as well.

Tithing is not for God it's for us IMO. To remind us to be thankful for our blessings and to help out those who are less fortunate than ourselves. It's another way for us to show our faith. At least that's my opinion.

Yet so many companies like Carrier and GM still move their mfg facility’s out of the USA. Wake up.

According to CharityNavigator, (
Link )

The Special Olympics took in $18 million more than they put out the last time they were audited there (2017 numbers). Take away 17 million and they'd still be in the green.

I like the Special Olympics.

I think a non-profit showing $18 million in profit is worth some slight hesitation.

Where exactly is the money going?

It always bothers me a bit when I see the salary of a non-profit's CEO. $450k isn't ridiculous in the current climate, but at the same time, it kind of is.

While there are plenty of other places for cuts in the federal budget to be made, plenty of other cuts will need to be made if the defecit is ever going to decrease. Giving an organization $17 million dollars that it isn't using would seem to possibly have better uses.

And I would once again say let's start with logical, huge cuts that even those getting the funding don't want....

Pentagon Tells Congress to Stop Buying Equipment it Doesn't Need

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2015...oesnt-need.html

Congress funds problematic weapons the Pentagon does not want

https://publicintegrity.org/national-sec...-does-not-want/

The military budget received a huge increase in 2018 with yet another increase in 2019 and another scheduled for 2020.

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As I recall wasn't it the libs that were insulting the anti abortionist about who was going to pay for challenged children that weren't wanted but now the fake outrage is so obvious and actually pathetic. Please pick a lane and show integrity guys. Trump never said he wanted to cut anything of the sort and the libs wont accept what he said …...SMH

Last week, PoTUS was in my home town for a rally. He stood on the floor of General Dynamics to deliver his address. General Dynamics makes M1 Abrams tanks.

Yup. The tanks of which the military said they had enough.

These tanks- sitting in a California dessert, as the world continues to change the nature of warfare and national security:




Seems to me that when it comes to funding and tax dollars, we don't really have a 'shortage problem' so much as we have an 'allocation problem.'

This country's priorities are on full display every day.

It's not the funding the military doesn't want. They just want to choose what they'll spend it on instead of congress feeding their constituents and contributors/investors in order to further their political careers.

I agree wasting money on superfluous equipment is stupid. I just think paying money to an organization that isn't actively using that money isn't much better.

Admittedly, there could be cashflow reasons for the excess cash or other reasons, but 18 million seems a bit excessive.

What the money is actually being spent on should matter regardless of the "pretty" label put on top of it.

I'm w/you on this one, Clem. However, I do want to say that it's not rare for a lot of these non-profit and/or charitable organizations to be manned by iniquitous and unsavory characters.

I don't believe in heaven or hell, but I have always secretly hoped that the individuals who prosper at the expense of the disadvantaged and the charity of others...deserve to spend an eternity in hell.

Right now, they're plunging into Long Island Sound every hour for 24 hours.

Goal - $24,000

Why were those things still going up before the cuts? Seems like they just have not gone down, but were on the way up since IDK 02 ish?

Because "playing politics" is more important to politicians than fiscal responsibility?

More examples of our jacked up version of capitalism (or the national ponzi scheme system) at its "finest"?

Can't afford something now? Don't worry! Put it on credit. Pay off that with more credit. Rinse and repeat. Yay fractional reserve banking! /purple

Just find it funny that each party thinks its the other parties fault for the deficit. Bush started crazy spending, Obama started insane spending, and Trump has continued the trend. All the while, when each one has been in office, the other side has complained. They don't care about the spending, as long as its on what each side wants to be spent on.

Honestly, I don't think they care about the what. I think it's more about the who, and how that who will pay it back down the line.

And I agree with this. But one side runs for office pointing out this crazy spending and claim things like tax cuts are some kind of cure for it. That they are fiscal conservatives and will help solve the problem.

When in actuality, you hit the nail on the head.

I don't disagree with you, but I think the constant focus on the "one"/other side is just part of the long con/misdirection. It's media-enabled, fiscal sleight of hand. Both sides are sneaking their hands into the "cookie jar" while pointing the spotlight at everyone else.

Once again I can agree with you to an extent. But in all honesty I think you must admit that it is slightly different.

One side preaches about them standing for fiscal responsibility and how the other side is so irresponsible. While the other side points out the hypocrisy by those saying that.

They both play the same game to an extent, only from different angles.

I agree.

But only because playing the same angle wouldn't really work as far as misdirection goes.