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#1647082 - 08/08/19 12:08 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Not a surprise in the least.

When we got Hunt. Duke's days were numbered.

He has missed most of camp. Wanted to be gone. Now he is.

He was a high effort guy. I wish him well.

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#1647085 - 08/08/19 12:20 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: FATE]
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Originally Posted By: FATE
Brutal. They have the 4th toughest schedule in the league and its first-half heavy...

Saints
Jags
Chargers
Panthers
Falcons
Chiefs
Colts
Raiders

Not sure I understand your post though, the worst they finish - the higher our pick.


They could make him a healthy scratch to preserve the higher pick.

I'm not saying they would, but the possibility crossed my mind. Especially if he did get a minor ding.
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#1647086 - 08/08/19 12:20 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: bonefish]
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A Probable 3rd?

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#1647087 - 08/08/19 12:23 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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if Duke is catching 55 60 balls a ywar...then your offense isnt any good.
I dont understand when people say "he wasnt used right"
Duke was limited as a RB.
its as simple as that

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#1647088 - 08/08/19 12:29 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1647090 - 08/08/19 12:31 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1647092 - 08/08/19 12:32 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Good for both parties. It was best to move on and not drag this into the season.

Iím quite surprised about the value Dorsey as able to get in return. Well done!

Good luck to Duke in the future.

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#1647094 - 08/08/19 12:35 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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God luck DJ.

This is best for both parties imho.
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#1647095 - 08/08/19 12:37 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: GratefulDawg]
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I had thought of this earlier.... I don't think we need the headache.

Yes, he wants out and is upset with their medical staff, but the subtext has been there all along that he isn't happy with his contract and I don't think we need that, especially from someone who stands no chance of being here beyond three years.
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#1647096 - 08/08/19 12:42 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Itís reported on the Browns official web site as a undisclosed unconditional trade.

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#1647097 - 08/08/19 12:43 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Bull_Dawg]
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I could see the "healthy scratch" scenario if he already missed a few due to injury... no way they do that six times though. Especially since it would be a punishment to the player and team.
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#1647098 - 08/08/19 12:45 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: PerfectSpiral]
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Itís reported on the Browns official web site as a undisclosed unconditional trade.

Well, we have to wait for Dorsey to "type it up" and send it over his 56k modem. wink
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#1647100 - 08/08/19 12:51 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Jc...

I expect us to bring in another RB sometime soon...in a couple weeks a lot of decent and solid RBs will be on the market soon....which we can use since Hunt is gone for half the season.

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#1647106 - 08/08/19 01:12 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I think weíre high on Hilliard (and possibly the other kids) ... I actually donít anticipate this to be a big loss.

BUT, we better be healthy enough until Hunt comes back
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#1647110 - 08/08/19 01:19 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: GratefulDawg]
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This doesn't mean much to me. Each team gets 7. 2 of the 3 extra are a 6th a 7th.

Woah!!

If this end up being a 3rd, i'll be happier.
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#1647113 - 08/08/19 01:23 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1647115 - 08/08/19 01:23 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Originally Posted By: GratefulDawg


This doesn't mean much to me. Each team gets 7. 2 of the 3 extra are a 6th a 7th.

Woah!!

If this end up being a 3rd, i'll be happier.


Those 6ths and 7th could well allow us to move in the 4th, 5th, or 6th rounds.
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#1647117 - 08/08/19 01:28 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: YTownBrownsFan]
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Yeah, I donít think we could have hoped for more
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#1647118 - 08/08/19 01:28 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1647120 - 08/08/19 01:37 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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The implication that I see is that Duke alone got nearly as many targets as the Texans had in most years, so we can expect his targets to go down as those numbers will still be split among all their RBs.
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#1647122 - 08/08/19 01:37 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: FATE]
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Originally Posted By: FATE
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Itís reported on the Browns official web site as a undisclosed unconditional trade.

Well, we have to wait for Dorsey to "type it up" and send it over his 56k modem. wink

Don't forget the printed copy off the dot-matrix printer!!
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#1647127 - 08/08/19 01:44 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: PETE314]
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Maybe they'll have the ball boy do it. wink
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#1647131 - 08/08/19 01:50 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: PETE314]
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Originally Posted By: PETE314
Originally Posted By: FATE
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Itís reported on the Browns official web site as a undisclosed unconditional trade.

Well, we have to wait for Dorsey to "type it up" and send it over his 56k modem. wink

Don't forget the printed copy off the dot-matrix printer!!


Nah, he's going to type it up on his portable Underwood and then fax it.

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#1647138 - 08/08/19 01:58 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Great value trade.

John Dorsey is the Real King...Not Elvis!


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#1647142 - 08/08/19 02:02 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: GratefulDawg]
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This could be a factor in Dorsey getting so much value for Duke.
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#1647145 - 08/08/19 02:06 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1647146 - 08/08/19 02:06 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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J/c

Good luck hilliard! Youíve flashed to this point ... you got a real shot now
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#1647147 - 08/08/19 02:07 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: CapCity Dawg]
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This could be a factor in Dorsey getting so much value for Duke.


I think you are right.
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#1647150 - 08/08/19 02:09 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Pdawg]
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This could be a factor in Dorsey getting so much value for Duke.


I think you are right.


Even a blind horse finds water now and then.

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#1647151 - 08/08/19 02:10 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Good Luck Duke!
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#1647152 - 08/08/19 02:11 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: CapCity Dawg]
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I think despite what some people thought, Duke's contract was appealing to some teams or at least a team. He's locked up for the next 3 years and you know what you're getting for a 3rd rd pick. Obviously the Texans are all in as well.

Good trade for both sides.

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#1647153 - 08/08/19 02:11 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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this will be a typical Johnson stat line
this year with the Texeans in a,game

2 carries 9 yds,
3 catches 26 yds

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#1647154 - 08/08/19 02:13 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Iluvmyxstripper]
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True that...Duke was way overrated..

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#1647155 - 08/08/19 02:15 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Agreed.

We may bring some other guys in to just take a look (should be plenty to choose from), but I'd be very surprised if Hilliard isn't our #2 going into the regular season.

Now D'Ernest's opportunities in preseason mean a lot more.

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#1647156 - 08/08/19 02:20 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Iluvmyxstripper]
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Originally Posted By: Iluvmyxstripper
this will be a typical Johnson stat line
this year with the Texeans in a,game

2 carries 9 yds,
3 catches 26 yds



I dunno. I wouldn't be surprised if Duke is used as receiver insurance as well. Texans receivers kill it from the slot. Maybe Duke can do the same?

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#1647157 - 08/08/19 02:22 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Duke will probably be a good WR type back for them ... they like to run a lot of quick screens and end arounds, sweeps, etc
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#1647161 - 08/08/19 02:47 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: devicedawg]
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Hopkins Fuller and KiKi will eat up most of the catches.
then you have Lamar Miller.
Duke will used but sparingly in Houston

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#1647166 - 08/08/19 03:14 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Iluvmyxstripper]
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Hopkins Fuller and KiKi will eat up most of the catches.
then you have Lamar Miller.
Duke will used but sparingly in Houston


Yep - teams give up 4th round picks for bench warmers all the time. thumbsup

Good luck Duke ... always thought you were a great contribution to the team and sorry to see you go. Having said that - I think a 4th round pick for him is great for the Browns. If we get a 3rd pick for him I'd think it was a steal. Hope he rips it up for Houston and plays every game!

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#1647172 - 08/08/19 03:28 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I liked Duke as a weapon. The problem was obvious last year, everytime he was in the game you knew we were throwing. It made the offense predictable and maybe some of that is on Freddie but we are talking about a running back who has not had 400 yards rushing in a single season.

I loved the idea of bringing him in on 3rd and short, out of shotgun and flexing him out to get a mismatch, but even on his team friendly contract that doesn't justify it. With Hunt in the fold he is just cluttering it up for cheaper, more traditional backs.

I hope he does well in Houston, but that anyone was willing to give a 4th for him is a miracle and I can't be upset. No one trades for running backs.

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#1647174 - 08/08/19 03:30 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: mgh888]
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Bill OBrian is the del facto GM of the Texans now.
Dorsey took him to the cleaners,on this trade.

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