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#1647831 - 08/09/19 07:32 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Wish you the best Duke..

And looks like we got really good value for him.
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#1647849 - 08/09/19 08:53 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: HotBYoungTurk]
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Duke went up on my fantasy draft board. He's not just a "change of pace" back in Houston.

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#1647862 - 08/09/19 09:14 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: devicedawg]
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Originally Posted By: devicedawg
Duke went up on my fantasy draft board. He's not just a "change of pace" back in Houston.


Agreed.

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#1647881 - 08/09/19 09:42 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Rishuz]
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Duke went up on my fantasy draft board. He's not just a "change of pace" back in Houston.


Agreed.


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#1647887 - 08/09/19 09:56 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Can't do draft kings here because of the damn laws.

Casinos didn't want the competition.

Ugh.

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#1647891 - 08/09/19 10:03 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Rishuz]
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Can't do draft kings here because of the damn laws.

Casinos didn't want the competition.

Ugh.


Drive to the border and make a few lineups!

And Keke Coutee had an injury last night apparently, although I don't know how serious, but all of their receivers have injuries histories.

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#1647893 - 08/09/19 10:16 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: cfrs15]
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The value of the pick was greater than what Duke Johnson was going to give us on the field as a backup. This is a really good trade for us and Duke Johnson but probably not the Texans.


So many jokes, comments flying around after reading this tweet.
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#1647900 - 08/09/19 10:21 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Yeah, Duke fits right where Coutee is for them .. but probably the better guy in the backfield
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#1647902 - 08/09/19 10:22 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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I saw D. Johnson in the stats column in the game last night and was like, "what the what!?"
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#1647905 - 08/09/19 10:29 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: oobernoober]
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#1647919 - 08/09/19 11:08 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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FWIW ...

KEKE COUTEE
WR, HOUSTON TEXANS

NFL.com's Ian Rapoport reports Keke Coutee has been diagnosed with a "not major" ankle injury.

We can only hope, but we need to wait for additional sources before considering Coutee out of the woods. Coutee did post, then delete, an encouraging update on social media. Even a minor ankle issue could hold Coutee out for the rest of the preseason.

SOURCE: Ian Rapoport on Twitter
Aug 8, 2019, 10:54 PM ET
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#1647932 - 08/09/19 11:54 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: DeisleDawg]
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Hilliard will make Johnson not missed much.


Just not yet. He was good at pass plays though.

I'm thinking so far it looks like we might need a better backup running back?

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#1647934 - 08/09/19 12:03 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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If Duke gets traded and you have his trading card, can you trade it in for his new team?
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#1647951 - 08/09/19 01:00 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: 3rd_and_20]
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It'd be a good idea to bring a guy or two in - and Dorsey probably will. But I suspect Hilliard will stay where he is. So (until week 8):

Chubb
Hilliard
D'Ernest

With D'Ernest on some STs hopefully.

Not all that bad.

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#1647952 - 08/09/19 01:06 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: AZBrown]
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This is why trading Duke now was not a good idea, IMO, regardless of compensation. I'd submit that same-ish compensation would have been there if this was done later in the season, just before Hunt returns.

If Chubb goes down, you have next to nobody on the roster that is proven, sans Hunt who is not eligible. Maybe you go out and get an Ajayi or someone like that but I think we're going to see how good Duke really could have been in Houston.

I would have waited.
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#1647953 - 08/09/19 01:11 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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You canít predict value. What if Johnson plays poorly or gets hurt? I just donít think his role in the offense was going to be Ethan great as long as Nicks Chubb was healthy.

If Chubb gets hurt we are screwed at running back with or without Duke Johnson.

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#1647962 - 08/09/19 01:27 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: cfrs15]
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I predicted, if traded, he should have given us more value than what other people thought we'd get. So I'm ok with also speculating that value would not have changed that much later in the season, even if others disagree.

His usuage went down the tubes in 2018 and still provided a nice return. Pass catching backs, and backs that can block too, have value. Duke fits that mold.

Could his production stink in 2019? I guess, but that is being just as predicitve on that front as I am on 2019 value mid-season.
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#1647969 - 08/09/19 01:35 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Theo Riddick just got cut. He's like a poor man's Duke Johnson but it shows where the running back market is it. We got tremendous value for Johnson and had to jump on the deal, it's as simple as that.

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#1647980 - 08/09/19 01:51 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Duke will play enough for us to get a third-rounder, John Dorsey strikes again smile
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#1648004 - 08/09/19 02:20 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: PastorMarc]
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10 games active is a walk in the park...Not bad for a backup RB.

Been saying for years that I hoped to see him converted to a WR...wanted him to stay a Brown.

Chubb btw will be a 3 down back and if in great shape like I think, will carry the load. After Hunt is back from suspension he can get a good rest and stay fresh for the post season.

Hillaird will get some reps but Chubb is the man.

jmho great trade for us!
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#1648011 - 08/09/19 02:26 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Versatile Dog]
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--Dorsey is like a predator. He abuses the weak. He took advantage of the moron Gettleman, the chaos in the GB FO last year, the BS between Gase and Landry in Miami, and now a Houston team that doesn't currently have a GM.


This a great observation.
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#1648033 - 08/09/19 02:36 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: CapCity Dawg]
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Yes - good observation. Predatory / opportunistic. . . . I'm good with that. Team first, exploit others needs/panic/disorganization/desperation .... 100%

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#1648157 - 08/09/19 06:17 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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cant believe this dime a dozen.RB garnered so much
attention and opinion on this board

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#1648159 - 08/09/19 06:18 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: mgh888]
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#1648195 - 08/09/19 07:55 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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j/c:

I wasn't very impressed w/Hilliard or the other dude...what's his name? D'Ernest Johnson?

Hilliard did well catching the ball on the first drive, but he was pathetic in pass protection. He had one hold and it should have been two. He held the guy on the one in the first half where the dumb announcer said he did a good job.

The fumble was bad. He didn't look good in-between the tackles on early down carries.

It's just one game, but he is going to have to step it up.

I think Chanderick West or whatever his name would be a good fit in Cleveland.

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#1648204 - 08/09/19 08:03 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Versatile Dog]
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Hilliard has a ways to go ....

Unless he shows against Indi this week weíll be looking for help now and when the cuts happen ...

I was very disappointed in him especially after all the off season hype coming out or Berea about him ..
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#1648209 - 08/09/19 08:09 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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jc -

I don't like the decision to trade Duke. I haven't at any point in this saga. But him not practicing I think backed the Browns into a corner. Sucks all around the way this turned out, IMO.

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#1648217 - 08/09/19 08:21 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Rishuz]
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He was hurt dude ...

Are u a conspiracy theorist? ... cause u doubt a lot of things ...

someone asked Freddie about Duke and Freddie got peed and told him in a very stern voice u should never question dukeís professionalism ... and he said that 2 or 3 times with his voice getting more serious and intense each time ..
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#1648218 - 08/09/19 08:22 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Rishuz]
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And i was in the keep duke at least til hunt comes back camp from day 1 ... and i would have been fine keeping him all year as who knows what The future holds ...

Iím also STUNNED and THRILLED at what KJ got for him ..

KJ is pure butter when it comes to trades ..

Owners are gonna start forbidding trades with us ... *LOL* ..
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#1648221 - 08/09/19 08:26 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: DiamDawg]
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I actually didn't mean it that way.

You have a disgruntled player who is not practicing who already doesn't want to be on the team. Unless he was returning to practice soon, I'm wondering if Dorsey was concerned he might not be available for 1 or more of those first 8 games. Then he really loses value to the Browns.

I guess we are still a ways away from the start of the season, but that was more of my thinking behind what I said.

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#1648223 - 08/09/19 08:31 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Rishuz]
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Gotcha ... i understand now ... so hard to communicate on here sometimes ...

Felt i had to have Freddies back ... cause u know he wears orange and brown .... *LOL* ..
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#1648225 - 08/09/19 08:38 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: DiamDawg]
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I really like Freddie so far.

I only have two criticisms of him - he's a little too comfortable with the media, IMO. He carries a little bit of bravado for a guy who hasn't faced much adversity. And two, the blowing a gasket over every little thing is a bit much.

And I always feel like I have to qualify my statements because people don't react too well to criticisms. But I am really happy that Freddie is the coach. I feel the same about Baker. My criticisms of each are rooted in the belief that I don't believe anyone is perfect and everyone is subject to praise and criticism.

I manage a group of people at my job. I have one standout employee. I mean this guy is head and shoulders above the rest. When I see him do something that needs criticism, he gets it just like the rest of my team. I think that's only fair.

Even Bill and Tom can be criticized. smile

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#1648230 - 08/09/19 08:54 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: CapCity Dawg]
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--Dorsey is like a predator. He abuses the weak. He took advantage of the moron Gettleman, the chaos in the GB FO last year, the BS between Gase and Landry in Miami, and now a Houston team that doesn't currently have a GM.


This a great observation.


The talking heads in Houston this morning were basically saying with a real gm there's no way texans would have offered a condentional third rounder... they speculated at best it would have been fifth rounder with fourth round condentional... who knows, but I feel that OB was really worried abIt their lack of running back and slot receiver and wasn't no patient enough to get a better price...

Duke is a great fit for the texans but we got great compensation for him
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#1648248 - 08/09/19 09:38 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Versatile Dog]
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Hilliard did well catching the ball on the first drive, but he was pathetic in pass protection. He had one hold and it should have been two. He held the guy on the one in the first half where the dumb announcer said he did a good job.



Yeah, he hooked his arm completely around the guy and dragged him down. lol I was stunned that a hold wasn't called.

Fortunately, blocking is, for a RB, a largely learned skill. I remember last year when people were freaking out about Chubb's blocking. He managed to get it together.

Last year Duke had 40 carries and 47 catches. I think that Hilliard can manage those carries, which would largely be on 3rd down, with the defense spread out ...... and the catches. Who knows how many catches the RB2 will get this year with our depth at WR? His biggest must have right now is blocking effectively.
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#1648250 - 08/09/19 09:42 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I keep thinking "Duke Johnson Traded" means we wont have to hear about him again.

I keep being wrong.
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#1648258 - 08/09/19 09:56 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: EveDawg]
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Why would you think that? He was a pretty good player for us. Hell, a lot of folks thought he was a great player when they were hell-bent on criticizing a certain coach. LOL

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#1648259 - 08/09/19 09:58 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: EveDawg]
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I keep thinking "Duke Johnson Traded" means we wont have to hear about him again.

I keep being wrong.


Agreed.

Maybe a new thread should be started regarding the quandary of Chubb's backup (for those who believe there is one).

Or maybe not.

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#1648262 - 08/09/19 10:03 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: AZBrown]
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Actually, if you scroll up just a little bit...........we were discussing Chubb's new backup. Check it out.

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#1648266 - 08/09/19 10:23 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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J/c

In terms of Freddieís handling of the media/team so far ... I like that heís a straight shooter and (to this point at least) has held the line on expectations/commentary. That must stay the same to keep the ship floating the same way it has
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#1648267 - 08/09/19 10:24 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: EveDawg]
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I keep thinking "Duke Johnson Traded" means we wont have to hear about him again.

I keep being wrong.


He was literally traded yesterday.

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