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#1648272 - 08/09/19 10:29 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: cfrs15]
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#1648325 - 08/10/19 09:18 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: DiamDawg]
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And i was in the keep duke at least til hunt comes back camp from day 1 ... and i would have been fine keeping him all year as who knows what The future holds ...

Iím also STUNNED and THRILLED at what KJ got for him ..


I think that was tipping point. I am not sure that we were in a hurry to move Duke, but once that offer came in you have to jump on it before it goes away.
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#1648342 - 08/10/19 09:31 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: CapCity Dawg]
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j/c...

Yeah I too was not impressed by Hilliard in the game although for the most part he was not in with the ONES and the opportunities where not there. He did recognize the blitz but was gosh awful trying to block the blitzer...although he did tackle ok...lol laugh

RBs are all over the place. With the staff that Dorsey has put together we will have the opportunity to pick up a kid from somebody's practice squad if the situation merits it.

We can sign many players that they were impressed with from the draft or UDFA signings that will get cut.

I actually liked the kid Trayone Gray. He might be the only keeper from the bunch. Looks to be one of those GAME DAY Players don't know how he practices. But thought he had the right stuff.

Would like to see him climb up the charts...right now he is dead last...lol laugh
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#1648350 - 08/10/19 10:01 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: eotab]
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John Dorsey: It was the right time to trade Duke Johnson

Charean Williams,ProFootball Talk on NBC Sports Thu, Aug 8 8:00 PM EDT


The Browns said repeatedly they were not trading Duke Johnson. They traded the running back Thursday.

ďI do want to wish Duke the best,Ē General Manager John Dorsey said on News 5&#8242;s pregame show Thursday night, via Nate Ulrich of the Beacon Journal. ďWith regards to that, we sat; we waited; we were patient; and at the right time, there was a deal on the table that we probably should have taken.Ē

The Browns made the deal with the Texans despite the fact that they wonít have Kareem Hunt for the first eight games while he serves a suspension. Nick Chubb is the starter, with Dontrell Hilliard, DíErnest Johnson and undrafted rookies A.J. Ouellette and Trayone Gray fighting to backup Chubb while Hunt is out.

ďIím very comfortable with what we have in the running back room right now, but what we do is we look all the time for all types of players,Ē Dorsey said. ďWe will not rest until we find the best 53 we possibly can.Ē


https://www.yahoo.com/sports/john-dorsey-time-trade-duke-000055426.html


Considering our needs at RB, I think Charcandrick West would be a good fit. Not sure if he is in shape or anything of that nature. But, he could fill Duke's role for awhile.

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#1648383 - 08/10/19 11:10 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I wasnít overly impressed with Díernest (SP) despite reading that heís had a good camp. To me, we need that elusive type back in the 3rd RB role until Hunt returns. Someone with pass catching abilities and shiftiness; I saw Johnston as more of a one cut dude
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#1648444 - 08/10/19 02:38 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Duke was overpriced for what his role was in this offense
this team isnt going to live or die on who the 3rd RB is.
Hillard will eventually learn to pick up blitzes....or not.
theres a list of RBs on the street the Browns can sign.

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#1648446 - 08/10/19 02:41 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Iluvmyxstripper]
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To a lot of people getting a RB on a cheaper salary with the same skill set and getting a mid round draft choice to boot doesn't make sense. That's why Dorsey is in charge and they are posting on a message board.
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#1648485 - 08/10/19 04:21 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Versatile Dog]
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I wasn't very impressed w/Hilliard or the other dude...what's his name? D'Ernest Johnson?

Hilliard did well catching the ball on the first drive, but he was pathetic in pass protection. He had one hold and it should have been two. He held the guy on the one in the first half where the dumb announcer said he did a good job.

The fumble was bad. He didn't look good in-between the tackles on early down carries.

It's just one game, but he is going to have to step it up.

I think Chanderick West or whatever his name would be a good fit in Cleveland.


I saw the fumble on the goal line. I will actually watch the game tomorrow at 1PM.

Just a question, was Duke a good pass blocker? I am not really sure if this guy is a good pass blocker or not. He did do the things Duke did for this team in the past, but the O is different now. Maybe he does have to step up that part of the game.

I go to games but usually watch when there like I do on TV. I don't focus off ball all that much
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#1648493 - 08/10/19 04:28 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Ballpeen]
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Duke made himself into an outstanding pass blocker.
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#1648497 - 08/10/19 04:34 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: CapCity Dawg]
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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
And i was in the keep duke at least til hunt comes back camp from day 1 ... and i would have been fine keeping him all year as who knows what The future holds ...

Iím also STUNNED and THRILLED at what KJ got for him ..


I think that was tipping point. I am not sure that we were in a hurry to move Duke, but once that offer came in you have to jump on it before it goes away.



I like this angle best and it makes the most sense. Thanks.

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#1648503 - 08/10/19 04:37 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: YTownBrownsFan]
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This is a good point too
Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Duke made himself into an outstanding pass blocker.
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#1649050 - 08/12/19 10:54 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1649059 - 08/12/19 11:17 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: GratefulDawg]
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I guess this puts to rest the issue for the very few who thought he might just be holding out here in Cleveland.

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#1649204 - 08/12/19 04:04 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: AZBrown]
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We just want him to suit up 10 times
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#1649611 - 08/13/19 09:08 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: YTownBrownsFan]
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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Duke made himself into an outstanding pass blocker.


Quoted this for emphasis. He really sucked at pass blocking when he started.

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#1649616 - 08/13/19 09:18 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: DeputyDawg]
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He wasn't great at it.
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#1651703 - 08/20/19 01:12 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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DUKE JOHNSON
RB, HOUSTON TEXANS

Duke Johnson (hamstring) returned to practice.

Johnson will now get some valuable training camp reps with his new offense. The Texans will be using Johnson, at minimum, as a pass-catching back, but there's a path to more usage if Lamar Miller struggles. Johnson is an interesting PPR pick in the double-digit rounds while playing in an offense that may be forced to dump off quick passes behind one of the worst offensive lines.

SOURCE: Aaron Wilson on Twitter
Aug 20, 2019, 12:09 PM ET
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#1651737 - 08/20/19 04:04 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: DiamDawg]
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Duke landed in a good spot for him. Lamar is JAG and doesnít have the pass catching ability ... plus, itís a fast offense on turf that is looking to get it out quickly
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#1651744 - 08/20/19 04:21 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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It's odd how we are willing to now openly criticize Duke. For a few years he and JT were our sole bright spots on offense. We loved the man and everything he brought to the team. Now, we cast him aside.

He was a dawg who battled and always did what was asked of him. He did it well AND he did it while being on some truly terrible teams. I hope he does well in Houston, until, of course we play the Texans. Then there will be no remorse.

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#1653438 - 08/24/19 07:21 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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It looks like Lamar Miller just blew out his knee.

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#1653440 - 08/24/19 07:36 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: cfrs15]
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It looks like Lamar Miller just blew out his knee.


Hate to hear it.

However, maybe we have a better chance at our 10 games now.

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#1653454 - 08/24/19 08:54 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I wouldnít be surprised if the Texans made a run at Melvin Gordon now
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#1653687 - 08/25/19 11:11 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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I wouldnít be surprised if the Texans made a run at Melvin Gordon now


That would make sense, and continue the pattern Duke had here. Always the #2 guy. When the #1 guy is gone, bring in another guy to be the #1 RB and Duke stays #2.
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#1653688 - 08/25/19 11:12 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: CapCity Dawg]
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Yeah, thatís Dukeís area of strength ... he canít be the lead back. Of course, Iím not sure the Texans are gonna want to pony up the picks/money itíll take to get Gordon
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#1653702 - 08/25/19 12:12 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Unless the Texans trade Clowney...since those rumors are swirling around.

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#1653712 - 08/25/19 12:52 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: tru_dawgs]
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I think there will be some fine backs available for the Texans and they would cost a lot less than Gordon.

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#1653730 - 08/25/19 03:05 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Time for Duke to prove if he can be the guy. I hope he succeeds, but I bet they get someone to be the main back.

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#1653751 - 08/25/19 04:41 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Versatile Dog]
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Another option would be Adrian Peterson if Washington was to think Guice is good to go
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#1653768 - 08/25/19 06:45 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Houston probably planned on Duke being able to fill in for a game .. maybe 2 .. but doubt if they wanted him to be full time for a season.
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#1653769 - 08/25/19 06:46 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Versatile Dog]
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I think there will be some fine backs available for the Texans and they would cost a lot less than Gordon.


I agree...always seems to be some solid-good backs scraped aside around these times...as long as they can find a compliment to Duke, I think they'll be ok.

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#1653773 - 08/25/19 07:22 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Duke is not a featured back.
He's a role player on his best day.
He's never had a 100 yd rushing game
He's overpriced 3rd down check down

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#1653774 - 08/25/19 07:42 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Another option would be Adrian Peterson if Washington was to think Guice is good to go


I was thinking the same thing about AP.

SF has an excess of backs. Maybe one of those guys. A sleeper might be either Carson or Penny from Seattle. Both are very good.

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#1653839 - 08/26/19 07:23 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Or maybe Chicago cuts ties with Mike Davis ... or Philly decides to release one of theirs

Or maybe McCoy from the Bills
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#1653863 - 08/26/19 08:52 AM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Duke is pretty relevant in a Spread offense...who knows what he can do as the featured back. Physically can he take it? I wish him well...
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#1654029 - 08/26/19 04:23 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Duke is definitely a weapon in the spread. You can do a lot of different interesting things with Duke.

The question is can their coaches come up with a season's worth of interesting things?

My guess is that they bring in a more traditional back and have them split playing time.

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#1669044 - 09/26/19 12:44 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Without starting a new thread ... I just alluded to this in the Chubb thread, but itís something I thougth about during the Rams game.

Do we miss Duke Johnsonís presence a little bit? He was a steady player for quite a while here ... reliable, good hands, versatile, etc. He was almost a safety valve for the QB (especially now since we donít have that reliable TE threat to help Baker).

I didnít think weíd miss him that much, but Iím starting to think we are.
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#1669047 - 09/26/19 12:51 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Without starting a new thread ... I just alluded to this in the Chubb thread, but itís something I thougth about during the Rams game.

Do we miss Duke Johnsonís presence a little bit? He was a steady player for quite a while here ... reliable, good hands, versatile, etc. He was almost a safety valve for the QB (especially now since we donít have that reliable TE threat to help Baker).

I didnít think weíd miss him that much, but Iím starting to think we are.


IMHO, Chubb can do what Duke did but better...

With the reliance in shot-gun formations, I don't think there was too much space for Duke,nor that we miss him.

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#1669057 - 09/26/19 01:14 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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I never agreed with trading Johnson.

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#1669058 - 09/26/19 01:16 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Rishuz]
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Me neither. But it isn't like the loss of his overwhelming production after all. I wished him much success and I still do.
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#1669063 - 09/26/19 01:33 PM Re: Duke Johnson Traded [Re: Rishuz]
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Well, when a player openly states that he doesn't want to play here, not like you have a lot of choice.
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