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#1657999 - 09/06/19 05:23 PM Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature
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When I return to a thread I've been keeping up with, its opening the thread to the most recent Twitter post instead of the new post I went there to read. Its not a huge deal, but a bit annoying to have to scroll down through posts you've already read.

Anybody else having this issue?

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#1658001 - 09/06/19 05:36 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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I am also having this issue.

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#1658032 - 09/06/19 08:25 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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Yes.

Additionally, I am not sure if I'm liking the new Twitter feature. I really do like it for breaking news, but there are so many posts from lame/unreliable sources. I think they look "cooler" and readers are often getting confused because some folks are using them to fuel an agenda rather than as a legit source of information.

I fully understand my position is almost certainly in the minority and that I don't expect anything by posting the above. I just wanted to get that off my chest because it seems to have had some negative consequences.


Edited by Versatile Dog (09/06/19 08:27 PM)
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#1658128 - 09/07/19 10:10 AM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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I just know I'm extremely surprised that Vers is upset about this.
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#1658293 - 09/07/19 04:50 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: brownsfansince79]
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Thanks man. I appreciate that.
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#1661282 - 09/11/19 07:32 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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#1665252 - 09/19/19 03:28 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Dave
When I return to a thread I've been keeping up with, its opening the thread to the most recent Twitter post instead of the new post I went there to read. Its not a huge deal, but a bit annoying to have to scroll down through posts you've already read.

Anybody else having this issue?


Yup, everyone is having this issue.
It is a technical side-effect of the new Twitter stuff combined with how a page loads.

The post-jumper takes you to an anchor position on the page the moment the page loads, but the Twitter stuff loads after that (that's just the way it is, can't change that). The problem is that when the Twitter stuff loads, it kinda resizes how much space a given post needs, which in turn changes what is on-screen as things get pushed down.

I am very aware, but have not yet thought of a way around it. It used to be a lot worse than it is, but I adapted by pre-reserving a certain default amount of space for each Twitter element (which is why you see a certain sized gap when there is more than one in a post). That cut down on much of the resizing effect, but didn't eliminate all of it.

Actually, while writing this post, I had an idea of something I *might* be able to use to have it re-jump to the anchor after the Twitter stuff loads, but I'm not entirely certain it will work.

It is annoying, but unfortunately, it is what it is. frown
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#1665262 - 09/19/19 03:51 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: Dave
When I return to a thread I've been keeping up with, its opening the thread to the most recent Twitter post instead of the new post I went there to read. Its not a huge deal, but a bit annoying to have to scroll down through posts you've already read.

Anybody else having this issue?


Yup, everyone is having this issue.
It is a technical side-effect of the new Twitter stuff combined with how a page loads.

The post-jumper takes you to an anchor position on the page the moment the page loads, but the Twitter stuff loads after that (that's just the way it is, can't change that). The problem is that when the Twitter stuff loads, it kinda resizes how much space a given post needs, which in turn changes what is on-screen as things get pushed down.

I am very aware, but have not yet thought of a way around it. It used to be a lot worse than it is, but I adapted by pre-reserving a certain default amount of space for each Twitter element (which is why you see a certain sized gap when there is more than one in a post). That cut down on much of the resizing effect, but didn't eliminate all of it.

Actually, while writing this post, I had an idea of something I *might* be able to use to have it re-jump to the anchor after the Twitter stuff loads, but I'm not entirely certain it will work.

It is annoying, but unfortunately, it is what it is. frown




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#1665274 - 09/19/19 04:20 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Whatever you did helped a lot, it's only jumping a little bit now.

Thanks for all the hard work!

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#1665277 - 09/19/19 04:27 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: cfrs15]
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I haven't done anything, hehehe smile

I'm betting that it may be slightly intermittent, too, based on the potential size of a Twitter post.

Also, if your browser is having trouble loading the Twitter content at any point, that could make things wonky.


Glad it's better, though!!
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#1665294 - 09/19/19 05:52 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Also, if your browser is having trouble loading the Twitter content at any point, that could make things wonky.


Yeah, I can't see a Twitter post that I'm trying to post in the Preview pane on those fairly rare occasion that I use Twitter posts. That, along with the messing up the post jumper are annoying, but not really that big a deal. Thanks for trying to fix it, and for keeping the site running as well as it does.

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#1671761 - 09/29/19 11:06 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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j/c

Sorry, twitter related but slightly off topic....

What was the fix PPE suggested in order to be able to view embedded Twitter posts?

Ever since the
Code:
[social:tweet]
function was implemented (last year? two years ago?...) I haven't been able to see a single embedded Twitter post.

Always have to quote the post, copy out the twitter url and paste it into a new tab to see what it was.

I thought PPE had posted a fix on this forum way back but I never implemented it and now don't see it anymore.
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#1671979 - 09/30/19 02:31 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: GraffZ06]
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http://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1517421/tweets-instagram#Post1517421

It's in there smile
There are potentially a few things in there, so read through it all.
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#1672265 - 09/30/19 10:21 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
http://www.dawgtalkers.net/ubbthreads.php/topics/1517421/tweets-instagram#Post1517421

It's in there smile
There are potentially a few things in there, so read through it all.


Thanks Purp. Tried the 3 or 4 things suggested on that thread - using Firefox 69.0.1 on Windows 10 - none of them worked.

But then again I agree with GMDawg in that thread. If it means I have to remove/lower my security settings by allowing 3rd party cookies and trackers (even though I tried and it still didn't work) - then I'd rather just continue to not be able to see them I guess.

*shrugs* oh well
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#1672827 - 10/02/19 07:00 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: GraffZ06]
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Dump twitter and give us back post jumpers. The forums are almost unreadable for new posts when you keep having to scroll down to find the new posts. Just link to twitter if you must but give us back a working forum.
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#1673223 - 10/04/19 11:14 AM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Tulsa]
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Yeah, if I had to choose between Twitter feeds being posted and post jumpers, I'd pick post jumpers. I always thought that feature was a big part of what made DT better than other message boards.

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#1673248 - 10/04/19 12:50 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Versatile Dog]
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For the record, I've never liked the Twitter usage..

But I concede that for Breaking news, it's alright
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#1673273 - 10/04/19 01:59 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Tulsa]
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Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Dump twitter and give us back post jumpers. The forums are almost unreadable for new posts when you keep having to scroll down to find the new posts. Just link to twitter if you must but give us back a working forum.


Duly noted.

Give me some more time to see if I can figure out a better happy medium, and if I can't I will launch a poll explaining the options to all and we'll let folks vote on whether to keep it or roll it out and go back to just linking.
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#1673294 - 10/04/19 06:49 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Dump twitter and give us back post jumpers. The forums are almost unreadable for new posts when you keep having to scroll down to find the new posts. Just link to twitter if you must but give us back a working forum.


Duly noted.

Give me some more time to see if I can figure out a better happy medium, and if I can't I will launch a poll explaining the options to all and we'll let folks vote on whether to keep it or roll it out and go back to just linking.



Thank you.
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#1673323 - 10/05/19 01:42 AM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Tulsa]
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What really sucks is when someone posts a Tweet, and the original Tweeter deletes their Tweet, so there is an empty reply box on the board. People who saw the Tweet before it was deleted respond to it .... but it's just vapor to later readers.
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#1696919 - 11/22/19 06:47 AM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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BTT - this is still happening. Reading the Garrett thread yesterday when it blew up, I kept hitting refresh to see new posts and it kept taking me back to the same Twitter post. Scroll, scroll, scroll ...

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#1697026 - 11/22/19 01:23 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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FWIW I’ve been viewing and submitting via my iPhone and everything seems to be working normal
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#1697103 - 11/22/19 04:25 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: DevilDawg2847]
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Thanks, I'll see if that works on my flip phone. wink

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#1697132 - 11/22/19 05:54 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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I wish I was rich like you. I can’t afford one of those fancy phones. I’m stuck with, scroll, scroll, scroll.
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#1697149 - 11/22/19 07:14 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Tulsa]
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Yeah, I finally upgraded my bag-phone. My flip phone has an alarm clock and - get this - Tetris, along with a couple other games on it.

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#1697158 - 11/22/19 07:48 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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Tetris?

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#1697248 - 11/23/19 09:56 AM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Tulsa]
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#1698609 - 11/25/19 01:18 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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Haha, I thought I was just losing my mind..

Was like, "I know I read these replies already, damn I'm getting old".

Good to know it's the bards and not my memory, well at least not ALL my memory.
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#1705556 - 12/11/19 09:59 AM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Dump twitter and give us back post jumpers. The forums are almost unreadable for new posts when you keep having to scroll down to find the new posts. Just link to twitter if you must but give us back a working forum.


Duly noted.

Give me some more time to see if I can figure out a better happy medium, and if I can't I will launch a poll explaining the options to all and we'll let folks vote on whether to keep it or roll it out and go back to just linking.



Don't know if you changed something, but now I can neither post from Twitter nor can I see Twitter posts when others use them. In the "MLB Hot Stove" thread, towards the bottom, there's posts from Grateful and Milkman that don't appear. FWIW, when I switch from IE to Firefox, they are shown. So why don't I switch from IE to Firefox all the time, you might ask? I just prefer IE, its what I'm used to.

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#1708137 - 12/18/19 12:49 AM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Originally Posted By: PrplPplEater
Originally Posted By: Tulsa
Dump twitter and give us back post jumpers. The forums are almost unreadable for new posts when you keep having to scroll down to find the new posts. Just link to twitter if you must but give us back a working forum.


Duly noted.

Give me some more time to see if I can figure out a better happy medium, and if I can't I will launch a poll explaining the options to all and we'll let folks vote on whether to keep it or roll it out and go back to just linking.



This took me way too long to get around to, but I think I have a solution that should be working quite well, now.


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#1708404 - 12/18/19 03:08 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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PPE - don't know if you saw my last post, but I can't see Twitter posts at all now, at least not when I'm using IE.

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#1708476 - 12/18/19 05:00 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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I did see that, but I don't know that it is anything I can control. I hadn't touched anything since the thread was first started until yesterday, so any changes in between weren't here.


I would suggest maybe clearing your internet cache & temporary files, see if that helps.
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#1708487 - 12/18/19 05:22 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: PrplPplEater]
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It's working very well for me. iMac and Chrome.


Thank you.
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#1709003 - 12/20/19 01:44 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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Originally Posted By: Dave
PPE - don't know if you saw my last post, but I can't see Twitter posts at all now, at least not when I'm using IE.
I had this same problem with IE. I am not using Edge and its fine.

Never had the problem before the other day.

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#1709050 - 12/20/19 04:44 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: willitevachange]
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I stopped being able to see Twitter posts in the last week (while using IE). At first I thought it was because of some fix that PPE did, but it turns out he hadn't done anything yet. I'm using Windows 7, so I don't have Edge. I haven't run any Windows updates recently, so I can't figure out what changed. The only thing I can think of is that I ran a Firefox/Mozilla update last week, but I don't know how that would affect IE/Windows operations. I could use Firefox to browse DT, although I don't like it. I suppose I'll be buying a Windows 10 (which I hate) laptop soon anyway, since support is ending for Windows 7.

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#1709142 - 12/21/19 12:03 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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Why didn't you upgrade to Windows 10?

You still can ..... if you have a legitimate Windows 7 license.

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#1709158 - 12/21/19 12:25 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: YTownBrownsFan]
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Why didn't you upgrade to Windows 10?

You still can ..... if you have a legitimate Windows 7 license.

You Can Still Upgrade to Windows 10 For Free, Here's How
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/mi...free-heres-how/


Take this chance to, Go Mac.

You won’t go bac.
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#1709169 - 12/21/19 01:22 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: YTownBrownsFan]
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Originally Posted By: YTownBrownsFan
Why didn't you upgrade to Windows 10?

You still can ..... if you have a legitimate Windows 7 license.

You Can Still Upgrade to Windows 10 For Free, Here's How
https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/mi...free-heres-how/


I have experience with Windows 10 at work, and I hate it. Heck, I liked Windows 98, and had to be dragged kicking and screaming to get Windows 7 when they ended support for '98.

Thanks for the link to a free update. I suppose I'll use it, just to continue support. I'll probably also spend some time trying to learn how to program keyboard commands in Firefox because I'm getting tired of Windows jerking me around.

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#1709171 - 12/21/19 01:27 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Tulsa]
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Take this chance to, Go Mac.

You won’t go bac.


I'd probably have to forget 3rd grade to make room to learn a new OS. That would include multiplication tables and long division, and I still use those.

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#1709172 - 12/21/19 01:31 PM Re: Twitter posts over-riding post jumper feature [Re: Dave]
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Take this chance to, Go Mac.

You won’t go bac.


I'd probably have to forget 3rd grade to make room to learn a new OS. That would include multiplication tables and long division, and I still use those.


Some things are just worth the sacrifice.

Also, since we all have smartphones with calculators on them, do you really need to take up valuable brain cells with multiplication tables?
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