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#1698885 - 11/26/19 11:41 AM Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence
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#1698887 - 11/26/19 11:43 AM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1698888 - 11/26/19 11:44 AM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I didn't know the transaction report was brought to us by Fifth Third.

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#1698889 - 11/26/19 11:47 AM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I didn't know the transaction report was brought to us by Fifth Third.

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#1698890 - 11/26/19 11:50 AM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I'll be curious if something happened behind the scenes that is yet to come out publicly.

Otherwise, odd move and timing given the depleted line.

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#1698891 - 11/26/19 11:51 AM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: Milk Man]
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Their motto was once 'The Curious Bank".

Curious kinda like this roster move.
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#1698893 - 11/26/19 11:53 AM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I'm not sure why this happened.. He played sunday and I didn't think he stunk.... Is this an off field issue?
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#1698894 - 11/26/19 11:53 AM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: Damanshot]
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j/c:

I'm so impressed by all this roster turnover during the season.
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#1698898 - 11/26/19 12:00 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I think the guys we just activated from the practice squad out played him last week. He flashes now and then but his overall grade from PFF is very poor, his run defense grade is the worst of all our d-linemen by far.
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#1698899 - 11/26/19 12:00 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Seems like a strange move considering he was actually playing and playing solid.

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#1698900 - 11/26/19 12:01 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Maybe Brandin Bryant's play made Lawrence expendable?

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#1698902 - 11/26/19 12:02 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: Milk Man]
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Originally Posted By: Milk Man
I'll be curious if something happened behind the scenes that is yet to come out publicly.

Otherwise, odd move and timing given the depleted line.


I'm wondering if he went out and did something stupid Sunday night while celebrating the victory.
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#1698903 - 11/26/19 12:02 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: Milk Man]
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Maybe Brandin Bryant's play made Lawrence expendable?


That was my thought, outside of getting in trouble or something.
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#1698908 - 11/26/19 12:06 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: dawg66]
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I think the guys we just activated from the practice squad out played him last week. He flashes now and then but his overall grade from PFF is very poor, his run defense grade is the worst of all our d-linemen by far.


Last week's game against the Dolphins:

Lawrence: 28 snaps, PFF grade = Below Average grade (45-54 range) 1 combined tackle

Bryant: 22 snaps, PFF Grade = Above Average grade (65-74 range) No stats registered

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#1698911 - 11/26/19 12:10 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1698914 - 11/26/19 12:12 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: Milk Man]
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But what did Lawrence do on the other 27 plays? was he out of position and give up a big run? did he miss a tackle? Bryant may not have made a tackle but he might have not given up a play either. PFF grades are based on every snap.
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#1698917 - 11/26/19 12:22 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: dawg66]
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But what did Lawrence do on the other 27 plays? was he out of position and give up a big run? did he miss a tackle? Bryant may not have made a tackle but he might have not given up a play either. PFF grades are based on every snap.
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I understand this. I was merely providing the available data.

Hence, Lawrence's poor grading and Bryant's above average grading from PFF.

It's why I, too, suggested Bryant made Lawrence expendable.

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#1698919 - 11/26/19 12:27 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: Milk Man]
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sorry, i thought you were questioning it
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#1698920 - 11/26/19 12:28 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: dawg66]
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#1698926 - 11/26/19 12:36 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: cfrs15]
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Nothing is ever normal.


DePodesta, has been the "chief strategy officer" or some such title, since like 20(16)!

If there is any way! on God's green earth, anybody could find .. "anything" that vaguely resembles "1" strategy this team has followed since ,(/the entire time), the time Depodesta was made / whatever,

then as Vinny says to Marissa Tomei's character in "My Cousin Vinny" ...
" I WOULD LOVE TO HEAR THIS! "

haha, Just when you/we begin to think, Being a Browns fan is the least bit predictable ... POOF! another magic trick.

nanner nanner nanner >>> hope this one works/pans out.
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#1698930 - 11/26/19 12:38 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: GratefulDawg]
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We can all speculate but we are not there everyday.

We don't see meeting rooms and practice. We really do not know the other players just added.

You either trust Dorsey and the staff or you do not.

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#1698932 - 11/26/19 12:39 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: dawg66]
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Originally Posted By: dawg66
sorry, i thought you were questioning it
I am questioning it.

We are depleted at the DL positions, even if Lawrence had a bad game, hes a good backup and depth on the line to spell guys.

I think this would point to the fact that he probably had an off field issue.

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#1698934 - 11/26/19 12:46 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: willitevachange]
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According to PFF he's had a bad season not just 1 game.
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#1698938 - 11/26/19 12:50 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: dawg66]
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Originally Posted By: dawg66
According to PFF he's had a bad season not just 1 game.

I'll be honest, he's had a few nice plays where he got his name called.. other than that, I don't know what he's done. If PFF says that on those other plays he wasn't doing his job, I'm not going to argue with them.. Evidently the staff saw the same thing.
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#1698954 - 11/26/19 01:20 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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#1698960 - 11/26/19 01:29 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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That sucks. I felt he was our one good option to pull a Turkey Jones Sunday.

Just kidding... mostly... ehhh, not really.
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#1698961 - 11/26/19 01:30 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Kinda surprises me by name, but seeing his stats/evaluation it makes more sense
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#1698962 - 11/26/19 01:40 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: dawg66]
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Originally Posted By: dawg66
According to PFF he's had a bad season not just 1 game.
Well, according to depth at the position, he was getting a meager salary and has been decent in spot plays.

Heres the problem with PFF, they don't take into account the actual ROLE of a player.

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#1698975 - 11/26/19 02:00 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: willitevachange]
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Actually they do. They base it on the downs a player actually plays. It's why often times you'll see a player that doesn't play a lot have a high ranking.
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#1698976 - 11/26/19 02:00 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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unless they are replacing with someone better, not sure why this move given our depth at the position. But with Larry coming back I guess one had to go
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#1698989 - 11/26/19 02:13 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: PitDAWG]
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Actually they do. They base it on the downs a player actually plays. It's why often times you'll see a player that doesn't play a lot have a high ranking.
So the guys who bashes analytics is here sticking up for...wait for it...analytics. Sorry bub, I had too!

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#1699001 - 11/26/19 02:28 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: willitevachange]
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I actually gave you one of the reasons I don't often put a lot of stock into it. wink
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#1699048 - 11/26/19 05:17 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Here are PFF’s Week 12 defensive grades for the Browns:

DEFENSIVE LINE

Chad Thomas: 89.9.

Sheldon Richardson: 80.7.

Brandin Bryant: 67.9.

Porter Gustin: 63.3.

Chris Smith: 62.1.

Bryan Cox Jr.: 61.7.

Eli Ankou: 58.0.

Devaroe Lawrence: 50.7.
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#1699052 - 11/26/19 05:29 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Not a deal breaker, but I don't understand it. For a backup guy, you want them to show flashes... Lawrence has done that since day one. And then we cut him? smh.
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#1699054 - 11/26/19 05:31 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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I remember being disappointed when they cut Trevon Coley and kept Devaroe Lawrence, but as the season went on I started to like him. I thought he might have a knack for the big play, or at least for being in the right place at the right time. But when he got his chance to shine against the Dolphins, he seemed to disappear. I don't think I heard his name even once during the broadcast this past Sunday, and that was not exactly a stellar O-line that Miami put out there.

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#1699072 - 11/26/19 07:30 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: MemphisBrownie]
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Did Coley get picked up?
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#1699074 - 11/26/19 07:39 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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He's with the Colts now.

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#1699078 - 11/26/19 08:16 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: HotBYoungTurk]
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Apparently, he just didn't flash enough. Guys elevated from the practice squad the week of the game outplayed him.

I'm surprised by it all, especially after all of the preseason "unblockable" hype, but he just didn't do enough.
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#1699086 - 11/26/19 08:49 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: PrplPplEater]
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Coley has ........... 1 tackle on the season. One.

People sometime refuse to put away their Brown glasses when thinking about former players.
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#1699089 - 11/26/19 08:51 PM Re: Browns Release Devaroe Lawrence [Re: Damanshot]
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Maybe he kicked FGs and missed them.

Nah, that doesn't get you released obviously.

Curiouser and curiouser.
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