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#1699893 - 11/30/19 06:55 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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#1700248 - 12/01/19 01:21 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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YouTube removes video of pastor saying Trump impeachment is a 'Jew coup' but doesn't ban him

https://news.yahoo.com/youtube-removes-video-pastor-saying-163500633.html

wonder how many people on this board agree with this very fine pastor.
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#1701096 - 12/01/19 03:32 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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Probably none.

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#1701698 - 12/01/19 09:17 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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I would certainly hope so.
But I'm not overly confident.
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#1701709 - 12/01/19 09:33 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Clemdawg]
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After all President Trump and the Republicans have done for Israel and the fact that much of his family is Jewish, I can't imagine the Jews would be out to get him.

It is the Democrats who have been out to get Israel the last bunch of years, not the Republicans.

Unless there is something I don't know about, like maybe American Jews don't support Israel after all.


Edited by 40YEARSWAITING (12/01/19 09:51 PM)

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#1701780 - 12/02/19 08:32 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING

It is the Democrats who have been out to get Israel the last bunch of years


Please explain I seem to be ignorant of this fact.
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#1701805 - 12/02/19 10:41 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: BADdog]
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#1701861 - 12/02/19 01:06 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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So the Democrats schedule impeachment hearings while the President is meeting with NATO, knowing for a year that NATO was scheduled for this week.

More underhanded politics that directly effects America's voice in those meetings.

Shame!

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#1701905 - 12/02/19 02:01 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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rofl

Everyone should wait until Trump's schedule is open for weeks at a time.

The same guy who said he wasn't allowed to be represented now refuses to send his representation.
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#1701985 - 12/02/19 05:06 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: PitDAWG]
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"You cannot think of a bigger, brighter contrast.
The president is on his way to NATO, where he has secured over $130 billion in additional NATO funds from NATO members
and you have the Democrats, who are doing basically nothing for the American people and are trying to impeach a president three years running.

... The Democrats can't take a minute to pass infrastructure, reduce drug prices, keep this Trump economy humming along.
He's over at NATO and they're trying to impeach him. America sees the split-screen government."

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#1701986 - 12/02/19 05:18 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So the Democrats schedule impeachment hearings while the President is meeting with NATO, knowing for a year that NATO was scheduled for this week.

More underhanded politics that directly effects America's voice in those meetings.

Shame!


rofl

Hilarious. You do make up some good ones ... or do you get help like the other Trump propaganda you spew up?

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#1702005 - 12/02/19 06:36 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: mgh888]
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Trump has been tweeting things like that today.
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#1702026 - 12/02/19 08:21 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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Giuliani associate asks court to release documents to impeachment inquiry

An indicted associate of Rudy Giuliani, President Trump’s personal attorney, wants to give congressional impeachment investigators access to materials that were seized during his arrest earlier this year, his lawyer said Monday at a court hearing.

A lawyer for Lev Parnas asked a federal court in Manhattan for the materials to be released to the Democratic-led House committees, according to ABC News. The outlet previously reported that lawmakers who are helping to lead the impeachment inquiry into Trump are already in possession of recordings and photographs from Parnas.

The materials were seized when the Soviet-born associate of Giuliani was arrested for allegedly violating campaign finance law. Parnas and another Giuliani associate, Igor Fruman, were arrested on Oct. 9 at Dulles International Airport.

Parnas initially told House investigators he would not cooperate with their inquiry, but his lawyer later said he was interested in complying with a House subpoena seeking his cooperation.

In Monday’s hearing at federal court, Parnas’s attorney, Joseph Bondy, said his client’s cooperation had stalled because he didn’t have access to the evidence, according to USA Today.

Bondy did not immediately reply to a request for comment.

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...-to-impeachment
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#1702036 - 12/02/19 09:04 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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The best analogy for trump is: he is like a cancerous tumor that needs to be removed.

The damage to this country under him can not be overstated.

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#1702116 - 12/03/19 09:40 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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Pressure grows on House GOP leaders to hold line ahead of impeachment trial

Senate Republicans say GOP unity during the upcoming House Judiciary Committee impeachment hearings will be critical to setting the tone ahead of a likely Senate trial.

Sen. Mike Braun (R-Ind.) said if House Republicans unanimously vote against impeachment, that would make it “less likely any senator would jump ship.”

One senior GOP senator said that if House Republicans stay unified against articles of impeachment, the Senate Republican Conference will do the same.

“As long as no House Republicans vote for the articles of impeachment, I don’t expect any [GOP] senators to,” the senior senator said.

All of that puts more pressure on House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy (R-Calif.) and other House GOP leaders to keep their troops in line and ensure there are no detractors over the next few weeks. A floor vote on articles of impeachment is expected before the end of the month.

Not a single Republican voted for the House resolution in October that formalized the rules for the impeachment inquiry against President Trump, and GOP lawmakers and strategists argue that there were no earth-shattering revelations in the subsequent hearings.

“Nothing that has come forward has reached the threshold level to where it’s really changed anything,” he said, adding that he hasn’t seen any increased support for impeachment among constituents.

McCarthy told The Hill in an interview last month that his leadership team has kept the House GOP conference together by keeping rank-and-file members as informed as possible.

“Each member makes their own mind up, but you’ve got to make sure that they are able to see all sides,” he said.

House Republicans have also pointed to member briefings that Minority Whip Steve Scalise (R-La.) has held to keep everyone on the same page.

After spending a week in their home states for the Thanksgiving recess, GOP senators say political support for impeaching Trump has only weakened since the public hearings in the House.

“From the polling I’ve seen, Ms. Pelosi and Mr. Schiff are sort of losing ground,” said Sen. John Cornyn (R-Texas), referring to Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff (D-Calif.).

A recent NPR/PBS NewsHour/Marist Poll found that 65 percent of U.S. adults said the House hearings wouldn’t change their minds on impeachment.

The same poll found an even split on the question of impeachment — 45 percent in support, 44 percent against.

An Emerson poll last month showed independents swinging against impeachment, with 49 percent opposed and 34 percent in favor, a significant reversal compared to October when the same survey found 48 percent of independents in support.

While the numbers could swing back the other way, Senate Republicans are becoming more confident as partisan battle lines become even more entrenched.

“The longer this goes on, I think the more and more people are going to get tired of it,” Cornyn said.

Grover Norquist, the anti-tax leader who hosts a weekly gathering of conservative activists, said Monday that he doesn’t see any Republicans in the House or Senate breaking ranks to vote for articles of impeachment.

“I think it’s extremely unlikely that any [Republican] in the House or Senate would look at this thing and say anything other than it’s thoroughly political,” he said.

“I think it’s true that if the [Republicans] all hold in the House then the Senate all holds,” he added, while noting that Republican-turned-Independent Rep. Justin Amash (Mich.) could vote for impeachment.

Ford O’Connell, a GOP strategist, said it’s “helpful” to keep Senate Republicans unified “if the House stays unified” because “there’s protection in numbers.”

He said “there is a lot of pressure” not to be the first Republican to break ranks and vote with the Democrats on impeachment.

“It’s not like if you vote with the Democrats somehow you’re going to be rewarded for it,” he added. “Voting with the Democrats will probably hurt you more than voting with the Republicans, even if you’re in a swing district.”

“The closer we get to next year’s elections, what we’re seeing in the polling is that voters basically don’t want their vote taken away from them,” O’Connell said, alluding to the argument that voting to remove Trump from office before Election Day would effectively circumvent the electoral process.

Chip Saltsman, another GOP strategist, said voting for articles of impeachment would be a career-defining move for a Republican lawmaker that would likely spur primary challenges.

“I think Republican support has gotten better,” Saltsman said of polling showing that the Republican base is rallying behind Trump.

“Do they really want the prospects of a contentious, expensive Republican primary staring them in the face before they have to worry about a general election?” Saltsman said of the political danger facing any Republicans who vote to impeach Trump.

“It’s a career-defining vote if you vote for [impeachment],” he added.

Sen. Ron Johnson (R-Wis.) said he would be “shocked” if any House Republicans vote for impeachment, adding that he thinks it’s clear the House and Senate votes will fall along party lines.

“I think we all know the result, which is [why] it’s kind of unfortunate the House is even going through this process,” he said.

Many Senate Republicans say U.S. Ambassador to the European Union Gordon Sondland’s testimony before the House last month, which some observers described as containing “bombshell” revelations, has failed to alter the political terrain in the Senate.

They say Trump’s decision to release military aide to Ukraine and the fact that Kyiv never went ahead with an investigation of former Vice President Joe Biden cuts the legs out from the House Democrats’ case.

When asked if Sondland’s testimony had strengthened the case against Trump, Johnson responded, “I don’t think so, not basically.”

“Maybe added a little bit of information. It was all based on his assumptions, presumptions,” Johnson said.

Senate Judiciary Committee Chairman Lindsey Graham (R-S.C.), another Trump ally, dismissed Sondland as an unreliable witness, pointing out that Sondland left out key details in his original testimony and later updated it substantially after claiming that other witnesses refreshed his memory.

“I’m very suspicious of anybody [who] all of a sudden remembers something that was obvious to be remembered,” Graham said.

“He says it’s now widely known, open secret, that everybody was in on it that there was going to be no meeting unless there was an investigation. Why didn’t he say that the first time?” Graham added, referring to Sondland’s revised testimony saying senior officials throughout the Trump administration knew that Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky was not going to get a coveted meeting with Trump unless he agreed to investigate Biden.

“I’ve sort of written that off,” Graham said.

Meanwhile, potential Senate swing votes such as Sens. Mitt Romney (R-Utah), Susan Collins (R-Maine) and Lisa Murkowski (R-Alaska) aren’t giving any hints about which way they are leaning. Instead they are letting the political process play out.

“I’m just not commenting on evidence that comes out day by day. I’ll look at all of the evidence in depth when it’s presented to the Senate,” Romney said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/senate/4727...peachment-trial
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#1702172 - 12/03/19 11:26 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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Appeals court rules Deutsche Bank must turn over Trump financial records to House

Deutsche Bank and Capital One must comply with a House subpoena seeking a broad range of financial documents related to President Trump and his businesses, a federal appeals court ruled on Tuesday.

A three-judge panel of the Second Circuit Court of Appeals on Monday ruled 2-1 in favor of ordering "prompt compliance" with the subpoenas from the House Financial Services and Intelligence Committees.

The ruling is a blow to the president's efforts to fight off all congressional oversight of his business dealings and personal finances.

Developing...

https://thehill.com/regulation/court-bat...trump-financial
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#1702173 - 12/03/19 11:27 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: OldColdDawg]
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The Minority Report

House Republicans delivered a point-by-point rebuttal Monday to Democrats’ impeachment efforts, claiming in their own report that the evidence collected in the inquiry to date does not support the accusations leveled against President Trump -- or rise to the level of removal from office.

“The evidence presented does not prove any of these Democrat allegations, and none of the Democrats’ witnesses testified to having evidence of bribery, extortion, or any high crime or misdemeanor,” Republicans said in a 123-page report.

“The Democrats’ impeachment inquiry is not the organic outgrowth of serious misconduct; it is an orchestrated campaign to upend our political system,” the Republicans wrote.

They added: “This impeachment inquiry and the manner in which the Democrats are pursuing it sets a dangerous precedent.”

In their report, Republicans argued the evidence found throughout the impeachment inquiry “does not establish that President Trump pressured Ukraine” to investigate the Bidens “for the purpose of benefiting him in the 2020 election.”

Nunes, Jordan and McCaul argued that a July 25 call summary released by the White House “does not reflect any improper pressure of conditionality to pressure Ukraine to investigate” Joe Biden, noting that “President Zelensky has publicly and repeatedly said he felt no pressure to investigate” the president’s “political rival.”

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#1702176 - 12/03/19 11:30 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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rofl

Republicans grasping at straws!
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#1702299 - 12/03/19 04:51 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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Congress has brought 569 bills forward to the senate. They do nothing but collect dust on McConnell's desk.



569 House-passed bills await action in the Senate

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#1702339 - 12/03/19 06:54 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The Minority Report

Nunes, Jordan and McCaul argued that a July 25 call summary released by the White House “does not reflect any improper pressure of conditionality to pressure Ukraine to investigate” Joe Biden,


They must have not been listening when witness after witness said that the release of the funds and w WH visit were directly tied Ukraine announcing an investigation into Biden..... although I guess in one respect Jordan Nunes and McCaul were right - Trump wasn't insisting on an actual investigation he just wanted a TV announcement that there would be an investigation ... smh.

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#1702351 - 12/03/19 08:06 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: PitDAWG]
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"Do-nothing" Dims.

If they weren't so inept, Moscow Mitch would send those five hundred sixty-nine bills to the floor. It's their fault that those bills are stacked 6 ft deep on Turtleman's desk.
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#1702357 - 12/03/19 08:35 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: mgh888]
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The Minority Report

Nunes, Jordan and McCaul argued that a July 25 call summary released by the White House “does not reflect any improper pressure of conditionality to pressure Ukraine to investigate” Joe Biden,


They must have not been listening when witness after witness said that the release of the funds and w WH visit were directly tied Ukraine announcing an investigation into Biden..... although I guess in one respect Jordan Nunes and McCaul were right - Trump wasn't insisting on an actual investigation he just wanted a TV announcement that there would be an investigation ... smh.


You must not have been listening when the KEY WITNESS, the President of Ukraine, stated...

"No one ever pressured me to do anything and I was never threatened or offered anything!"

"There was no Quid Pro Quo!"

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#1702360 - 12/03/19 08:41 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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A close-up of his face in that clip reveals a man rhythmically blinking his eyes:

short short short.
long long long
short short short.
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#1702362 - 12/03/19 08:46 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Clemdawg]
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I understand you guys only hear witnesses, no matter how distant they are from knowing anything, who tell the story you want to hear.

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#1702374 - 12/03/19 09:48 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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You understand nothing... including jokes and irreverence.


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#1702375 - 12/03/19 09:53 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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Read the report. Of course you will not.

The evidence is a slam dunk.

If this is not handled correctly and trump not held accountable for clearly using the power the office of the presidency for his own political gain.

It will corrupt the constitution. This is exactly why separation of power exists. So that a president of any party can not abuse the power of the office.

It could not be a more clear case.

Republicans need think this through. Is this really what you want a president to do? Because if this is let go; it will happen again. It is wrong. Wrong for any party.

Not about red or blue. This is about abuse of the office for personal gain.

If this was a democrat it would not be and should not be different.

This blind worship of a corrupt president is more than disturbing.

I would hope as an American you could put away your red badge and do what is right.

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#1702377 - 12/03/19 10:07 PM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: bonefish]
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I would hope as an American you could put away your red badge and do what is right.


As a true American I fought you on the false charges of Russian Collusion and justice prevailed.

I fought you when you used false accusations by sketchy witnesses during the Kavanaugh hearings. Justice prevailed.

I am fighting you on this impeachment debacle as you call second and third hand witnesses to testify to what they believe they found. You transform hearsay into fact at every turn.

A court of law would throw out this entire Kangaroo Court and its findings.

I trust the American system of Due Process will once again shine light on the truth and justice will prevail again.

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#1702402 - 12/04/19 07:18 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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So the Democrats schedule impeachment hearings while the President is meeting with NATO, knowing for a year that NATO was scheduled for this week.

More underhanded politics that directly effects America's voice in those meetings.

Shame!


All the other world leaders in nato are mocking trump right now. He’s a lame duck for nato. Putin is laughing. He’s happy. Good on ya GOP

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#1702404 - 12/04/19 07:31 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: PerfectSpiral]
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So the Democrats schedule impeachment hearings while the President is meeting with NATO, knowing for a year that NATO was scheduled for this week.

More underhanded politics that directly effects America's voice in those meetings.

Shame!


All the other world leaders in nato are mocking trump right now. He’s a lame duck for nato. Putin is laughing. He’s happy. Good on ya GOP


Are they laughing because their economies are not as strong as Trump's economy? Was the Canadian President wearing a black face?Who cares what they think as long as they pay their fair share to NATO.

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#1702405 - 12/04/19 07:32 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
The Minority Report

Nunes, Jordan and McCaul argued that a July 25 call summary released by the White House “does not reflect any improper pressure of conditionality to pressure Ukraine to investigate” Joe Biden,


They must have not been listening when witness after witness said that the release of the funds and w WH visit were directly tied Ukraine announcing an investigation into Biden..... although I guess in one respect Jordan Nunes and McCaul were right - Trump wasn't insisting on an actual investigation he just wanted a TV announcement that there would be an investigation ... smh.


You must not have been listening when the KEY WITNESS, the President of Ukraine, stated...

"No one ever pressured me to do anything and I was never threatened or offered anything!"

"There was no Quid Pro Quo!"


You see this right here, this BS, is why you're so confused and so wrong. apparently you can't tell the difference between a witness under oath, and a politician trying to dance and balance on a highwire with a nation that he is still dependent upon for the security of his country.

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#1702408 - 12/04/19 07:56 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Day of the Dawg]
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Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So the Democrats schedule impeachment hearings while the President is meeting with NATO, knowing for a year that NATO was scheduled for this week.

More underhanded politics that directly effects America's voice in those meetings.

Shame!


All the other world leaders in nato are mocking trump right now. He’s a lame duck for nato. Putin is laughing. He’s happy. Good on ya GOP


Are they laughing because their economies are not as strong as Trump's economy? Was the Canadian President wearing a black face?Who cares what they think as long as they pay their fair share to NATO.


Without the USA ...NATO is dead bro. Putin will be extremely happy. Party before country at the expense of NATO, and other countries like the Ukraine. Deplorable.

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#1702409 - 12/04/19 08:02 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: PerfectSpiral]
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https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/03/nat...nts-the-credit/

I should post this here before we start to hear the BS Trump parrot-ers start to make wild claims about NATO contributions.

Also - to the guy talking about the US economy. Yes, we all need to tip our hat to OBAMA for that. Thanks for the reminder.

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/12/03/nat...nts-the-credit/

I made it easy - you can look at charts if you don't want to read so many words.

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#1702438 - 12/04/19 10:06 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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Obviously you think it is me you wish to fight.

First I am not affiliated with any party.

I vote for the person not party.

I back was is right. I don't ignore facts.

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#1702439 - 12/04/19 10:07 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Day of the Dawg]
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Originally Posted By: Day of the Dawg
Originally Posted By: PerfectSpiral
Originally Posted By: 40YEARSWAITING
So the Democrats schedule impeachment hearings while the President is meeting with NATO, knowing for a year that NATO was scheduled for this week.

More underhanded politics that directly effects America's voice in those meetings.

Shame!


All the other world leaders in nato are mocking trump right now. He’s a lame duck for nato. Putin is laughing. He’s happy. Good on ya GOP


Are they laughing because their economies are not as strong as Trump's economy? Was the Canadian President wearing a black face?Who cares what they think as long as they pay their fair share to NATO.


No they are laughing because you elected a clown.

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#1702452 - 12/04/19 10:56 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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So the new hearings are informative, but GOPers playing the same game.

Not usre Nadler will be as effective as Schiff keeping things on track.
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#1702453 - 12/04/19 10:58 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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Professor Pam Karlan with a very persuasive opening statement.
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#1702459 - 12/04/19 11:21 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: Swish]
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Impeachment hearings are going to be “a Trump-hating circus".


Members of Nadler's team trying to take down Trump have done everything from suggesting the island of Guam would capsize to thinking the U.S. Constitution is 400 years old and that Neil Armstrong landed on Mars.

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#1702462 - 12/04/19 11:33 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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TRANSLATION: Duly elected officials carrying out constitutional oversight of a corrupt President that 40 supports.

Come on 40, listen to the facts. One of the Professors even says this impeachment moved too fast and the incidents have not been thoroughly investigated to satisfy the level of high crimes and misdemeanors.
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#1702463 - 12/04/19 11:37 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: 40YEARSWAITING]
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I hope the Senate holds a full investigatory trial calling all witnesses including Schiff and the whistleblower before removing Trump, or letting him stay. I would actually like all the facts to come out including all those involved and to what degree, so we the people can see beyond the partisanship as to what actually happened and what it means.

If Trump is somehow, really not guilty, then the election should be the deciding factor of rather he stays or goes. BUT if the facts show he is corrupt and committed HC&Ms he should be removed. Our democracy depends on us getting this right, for both sides and all sides.


Edited by OldColdDawg (12/04/19 11:39 AM)
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#1702464 - 12/04/19 11:38 AM Re: Impeachment: Armageddon [Re: OldColdDawg]
40YEARSWAITING Offline
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Registered: 12/20/14
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Nothing has been fair or just in these hearings so far, why do you think 3 pro impeachment experts and 1 anti impeachment expert will make any difference?

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