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#1707269 - 12/15/19 07:05 PM Post game.
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This canít be it. Thereís just now way this is the best this team can do with all this talent.

Iím just at a loss for words.
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#1707274 - 12/15/19 07:07 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Chubb Period!!!
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#1707276 - 12/15/19 07:07 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Trash organization.

Trash coaches.

Trash players.

Trash team.

I knew they wouldn't win today.

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#1707278 - 12/15/19 07:08 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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This has to be it for Kitchens. The team is in total disarray. They can not bring him back for next season.

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#1707279 - 12/15/19 07:08 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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If dorsey insists on keeping kitchens he can go. Promote wolf and get an experienced coach
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#1707280 - 12/15/19 07:08 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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I rooted for them, but this is exactly what I expected.
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#1707283 - 12/15/19 07:10 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
Steubenvillian Offline
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This game went exactly the way I thought. Coaching is a big problem, but I have to say I believe this "team" is not a "team" at all. A group of players is all I see, no discipline, no drive, and IMO, any accountability they talk about having, is a farce. We will not win again this year.

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#1707285 - 12/15/19 07:11 PM Re: Post game. [Re: leadtheway]
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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
If dorsey insists on keeping kitchens he can go. Promote wolf and get an experienced coach
I agree, Dorsey can't keep Kitchens now. Team had the talent to make playoffs but not the coaching!

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#1707286 - 12/15/19 07:11 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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#1707287 - 12/15/19 07:13 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Leave Freddie there in Arizona to start his vacation. Hire McCarthy to coach the last few games. I couldn't be any worse.

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#1707288 - 12/15/19 07:13 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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At Least, From 1999-2004 I believed the Future was going to be one of Winning.

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#1707289 - 12/15/19 07:13 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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That was uninspiring.
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#1707290 - 12/15/19 07:14 PM Re: Post game. [Re: leadtheway]
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Originally Posted By: leadtheway
If dorsey insists on keeping kitchens he can go. Promote wolf and get an experienced coach


De-Po-Desta

clap, clap, clap clap clap.
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#1707291 - 12/15/19 07:14 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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#1707292 - 12/15/19 07:15 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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J/C

Will we see a power struggle between Haslam and Dorsey?
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#1707293 - 12/15/19 07:16 PM Re: Post game. [Re: MemphisBrownie]
The Beast Offline

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Originally Posted By: MemphisBrownie
Originally Posted By: leadtheway
If dorsey insists on keeping kitchens he can go. Promote wolf and get an experienced coach


De-Po-Desta

clap, clap, clap clap clap.


No - not in a million years. Football people need to make football decisions. Period.

Dorsey keeping Kitchens means they both go. Enough already.
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#1707294 - 12/15/19 07:16 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Dawg Citizen]
Knight Offline
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Originally Posted By: Dawg Citizen
Originally Posted By: leadtheway
If dorsey insists on keeping kitchens he can go. Promote wolf and get an experienced coach
I agree, Dorsey can't keep Kitchens now. Team had the talent to make playoffs but not the coaching!


What if Dorsey keeps Kitchens because he is the type of guy who can't admit he made a mistake? They both may need to go, and can for all I care. Wilks too, what a casterated performance from his defense against his old team.

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#1707295 - 12/15/19 07:17 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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You think there's a little progress at least and then this...

I hate to start at nearly ground zero again but (some) these guys have absolutely torpedoed this thing.

Not putting it past Baker, having seen some of his shenanigans, to be leading a coup here. Something smells...

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#1707296 - 12/15/19 07:17 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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It's like the coaches and players heard it would take a major collapse the last 3 weeks for a coaching change to happen and they collectively decided to make sure that it happens
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#1707297 - 12/15/19 07:18 PM Re: Post game. [Re: CBFAN19]
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Originally Posted By: CBFAN19
J/C

Will we see a power struggle between Haslam and Dorsey?


Nope - it's pretty simple.

Haslam: Hey John, fire Freddie or you're gone.

Dorsey: You sign my check. Got it. Thanks Jimmy.

Click.
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#1707298 - 12/15/19 07:19 PM Re: Post game. [Re: The Beast]
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No - not in a million years. Football people need to make football decisions. Period.


Because "football people" have worked out so well for us, since, well......

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#1707299 - 12/15/19 07:19 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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If you ainít winniní games, you donít matter.
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#1707301 - 12/15/19 07:21 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Weíre brown alright
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"First down as we threaten again. A score here puts us in the Super Bowl. Odell is far to the left as Landry settles into the slot. Njoku is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."

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#1707303 - 12/15/19 07:21 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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- The players have zero respect for Freddie. He needs to go. The players have clearly quit on him. Even last week they were just going through the motions.

- I have real concerns about Baker.

- It's December, Christmas is near and the Browns are a complete dumpster fire. 'Tis the season!

- Landry yelling at Freddie says it all.

- Browns beat by a bad team....again.

- Browns fail to show up and win a game that they have to win....again.

- The defense just doesn't care anymore.

- I said tongue and cheek in the gameday thread, "the players are doing their part to make sure there is a horrific collapse" to end Freddie's reign of terror. I'm actually starting to believe maybe they are.

- Nick Chubb is amazing. Make sure he gets the rushing title.

- Just get this season over with, this clown show has just become embarrassing.

- Browns tickets going back to costing less than a high school game. They were as low as $9 against the Bengals.

- Same old Browns.

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#1707305 - 12/15/19 07:23 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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If they keep Kitchens I will drive the 14 hours to Cleveland and dropkick Dorsey in the testicles!

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#1707306 - 12/15/19 07:23 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Milk Man]
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again with the 1-0 next week at FK's presser

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#1707307 - 12/15/19 07:24 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Major concerns about Baker and our teamís direction at this point
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"First down as we threaten again. A score here puts us in the Super Bowl. Odell is far to the left as Landry settles into the slot. Njoku is flanked out wide to the right. Chubb and Hunt are split in the backfield as Baker takes the snap ... Here we go."

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#1707308 - 12/15/19 07:25 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Listening to the press conference, Freddie is speaking like he knows he is done.

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#1707309 - 12/15/19 07:27 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Milk Man]
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[quote][/q- Same old Browns.uote]

Yep, what he said

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#1707310 - 12/15/19 07:27 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Here is something that puzzles me. All the recieving talent we have and our recievers are never open, never any separation and we can barely complete a pass past 10 yards. Other teams recievers are always open with yards of seperation torching us 15-20 yards downfield and our DB'd NEVER know where the ball is. How many picks we had? They can't find the football.

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#1707311 - 12/15/19 07:28 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Knight]
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Originally Posted By: Knight
Here is something that puzzles me. All the recieving talent we have and our recievers are never open, never any separation and we can barely complete a pass past 10 yards. Other teams recievers are always open with yards of seperation torching us 15-20 yards downfield and our DB'd NEVER know where the ball is. How many picks we had? They can't find the football.


The scheme is horrible, pathetic is a better word

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#1707313 - 12/15/19 07:29 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Another presser and Freddie will not admit that Baker played like trash.
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#1707314 - 12/15/19 07:30 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Kitchens was in way over his head this year. We all know it. If you thought he would get better and take control, maybe you would bring him back. But I do not see it. I would take Meyer, McCarthy, Rivera and several others next year. We need someone with a presence who can impose discipline.
And we canít be sure we have our QB. I hope we do, but I donít know.

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#1707315 - 12/15/19 07:31 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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This is Dorsey's team ; he is responsible for the product on the field. He has his work cut out for him this coming off-season...
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#1707317 - 12/15/19 07:31 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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Done for the year. Next to another meaningless offseason win for the Browns to just fall short of when the rubber meets the road. If Dorsey and Haslam donít replace Kitchens and company, many will be angry and this awesome roster wasted.

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#1707318 - 12/15/19 07:34 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Steubenvillian]
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Originally Posted By: Steubenvillian
Originally Posted By: Knight
Here is something that puzzles me. All the recieving talent we have and our recievers are never open, never any separation and we can barely complete a pass past 10 yards. Other teams recievers are always open with yards of seperation torching us 15-20 yards downfield and our DB'd NEVER know where the ball is. How many picks we had? They can't find the football.


The scheme is horrible, pathetic is a better word


In a word Predictable!

If your placing the blame on our talent, then you are bying unto The BS we've been feed every week this season.

Then their is our defense.
Are our players really that terrible?
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#1707319 - 12/15/19 07:34 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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If changes arenít made, next Sunday will be very ugly
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#1707320 - 12/15/19 07:35 PM Re: Post game. [Re: HotBYoungTurk]
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Originally Posted By: HotBYoungTurk
Another presser and Freddie will not admit that Baker played like trash.


30/43 247yds 2TD 1INT
I wouldn't say that's trash..definately missed some throws could have been better. The real trash in this game was on the other side of the field that got lit up for what 450 yards and 38 points by the 24th ranked offense.

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#1707321 - 12/15/19 07:37 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Swish]
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I am ok with this loss.

Because it helps get us a new EXPERIENCED coaching staff.

That and I met a new guy at the bar. Well not so new, he is part of our regulars crew.

But super nice and sweet.
And football fanatic.
And lives nearby.
And a good job.
And he likes me.
And he is my age.

So fingers crossed.

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#1707322 - 12/15/19 07:37 PM Re: Post game. [Re: Dawgs4Life]
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Originally Posted By: Dawgs4Life
If changes arenít made, next Sunday will be very ugly


I think next Sunday will be ugly, regardless of any changes made.

One trick pony rides again.
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