Making matters worse you edited your post to add that liberals are violent. Obviously that's troll-like antagonistic posting. And obviously it's complete BS. I'm sure there's violent liberals, I'm sure there's violent centrists, I'm sure there's violent right-wingers. Just like those violent religious people, if you want to label people based on 2016 and a tiny minority of idiots who reacted violently... Will label all religions violent for all of their wars and atrocities and deaths that are on their hand. Thanks.
Who lacks reading comprehension? I said Leftist protesters are usually violent. You quoted me as saying liberals are violent. You left out the words “protesters” and “usually”. Just like when you misrepresented me before
Saying leftist protesters are usually violent is not the same as saying liberals are violent.
Trump supporters defending themselves from unstable, violent protesters has nothing to do with Schurmer threatening justices
Originally Posted By: dagesh
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: dagesh
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Chuck U Schumer should have been jailed for his thuggish comments.
Ok,, Let's do that.. Then you go out and Arrest the President for his attacks on the judicial system.. Including the attacks on SCOTUS
Did Trump threaten justices?
Whats the difference... Belittle, make false accusations, Lie about them.... I'd say that's enough.
If he truly did those things, which is debatable, it’s not the same as threats.
So in one post you claim Trump's public record of belittling and lying about people is debatable (no it's not - it's on record) ... than you say it's not the same as Trump making threats.
SO .... I post the most obvious instance I know of Trump encouraging and threatening violence. Are you following? Not only did he make those threats and brag about them - people actually got hurt because his supporters took him at his word.
THEN .... you try to say I'm trying to create a stawman argument or suggesting this has nothing to do with Schumer. And in doing so you prove why people are smart to avoid engaging with you because you introduce something by way of normal conversation - then when someone answers and basically provides an instance that you seemed in imply never happen ... you disown the conversation and say it's got nothing to do with the thread topic. Thanks but no thanks?
As for your religion? I don't know what denomination or religion you belong to. I do know you stated complete faith and believe in the Bible. So instead of saying "your" religion - I will say nearly all religions have thousands, hundreds of thousands and indeed estimates of tens of millions of deaths to their name.
Finally - I was in a restaurant eating diner.... you said most leftist protesters are violent ... it is still wrong and incorrect - apologies for my incorrect substitution of the word liberal due to speed reading and typing.
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The more things change the more they stay the same.
Trump supporters defending themselves from unstable, violent protesters has nothing to do with Schurmer threatening justices
Originally Posted By: dagesh
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: dagesh
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Chuck U Schumer should have been jailed for his thuggish comments.
Ok,, Let's do that.. Then you go out and Arrest the President for his attacks on the judicial system.. Including the attacks on SCOTUS
Did Trump threaten justices?
Whats the difference... Belittle, make false accusations, Lie about them.... I'd say that's enough.
If he truly did those things, which is debatable, it’s not the same as threats.
So in one post you claim Trump's public record of belittling and lying about people is debatable (no it's not - it's on record) ... than you say it's not the same as Trump making threats.
SO .... I post the most obvious instance I know of Trump encouraging and threatening violence. Are you following? Not only did he make those threats and brag about them - people actually got hurt because his supporters took him at his word.
THEN .... you try to say I'm trying to create a stawman argument or suggesting this has nothing to do with Schumer. And in doing so you prove why people are smart to avoid engaging with you because you introduce something by way of normal conversation - then when someone answers and basically provides an instance that you seemed in imply never happen ... you disown the conversation and say it's got nothing to do with the thread topic. Thanks but no thanks?
As for your religion? I don't know what denomination or religion you belong to. I do know you stated complete faith and believe in the Bible. So instead of saying "your" religion - I will say nearly all religions have thousands, hundreds of thousands and indeed estimates of tens of millions of deaths to their name.
Finally - I was in a restaurant eating diner.... you said most leftist protesters are violent ... it is still wrong and incorrect - apologies for my incorrect substitution of the word liberal due to speed reading and typing.
a. Trump did not make threats against Supreme Court Justices.
b. You talked about Trump covering legal fees The context of that was in cases where Leftists were committing assault. Look it up.
c. I did not introduce Trump into a discussion about Schumer. You did.
d. You don't know my denomination. So you cannot give a war that my denomination started. Hint...my denomination never started a war. We were the ones getting burned at the stake by the ones who made wars.
e. and you still misquote me. I said leftist protesters are usually violent", not that "most leftists protesters are violent". Leftists often threaten, spit on people, throw things at people, vandalize/destroy public property, etc. They tear signs out of your hand, tear hats off of your head, etc.
Now stop hijacking the thread with your propaganda and talk about Schumer
Trump supporters defending themselves from unstable, violent protesters has nothing to do with Schurmer threatening justices
Originally Posted By: dagesh
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: dagesh
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Chuck U Schumer should have been jailed for his thuggish comments.
Ok,, Let's do that.. Then you go out and Arrest the President for his attacks on the judicial system.. Including the attacks on SCOTUS
Did Trump threaten justices?
Whats the difference... Belittle, make false accusations, Lie about them.... I'd say that's enough.
If he truly did those things, which is debatable, it’s not the same as threats.
So in one post you claim Trump's public record of belittling and lying about people is debatable (no it's not - it's on record) ... than you say it's not the same as Trump making threats.
SO .... I post the most obvious instance I know of Trump encouraging and threatening violence. Are you following? Not only did he make those threats and brag about them - people actually got hurt because his supporters took him at his word.
THEN .... you try to say I'm trying to create a stawman argument or suggesting this has nothing to do with Schumer. And in doing so you prove why people are smart to avoid engaging with you because you introduce something by way of normal conversation - then when someone answers and basically provides an instance that you seemed in imply never happen ... you disown the conversation and say it's got nothing to do with the thread topic. Thanks but no thanks?
As for your religion? I don't know what denomination or religion you belong to. I do know you stated complete faith and believe in the Bible. So instead of saying "your" religion - I will say nearly all religions have thousands, hundreds of thousands and indeed estimates of tens of millions of deaths to their name.
Finally - I was in a restaurant eating diner.... you said most leftist protesters are violent ... it is still wrong and incorrect - apologies for my incorrect substitution of the word liberal due to speed reading and typing.
In case you missed it... I said leftist protesters are usually violent", not that "most leftists protesters are violent".
Trump supporters defending themselves from unstable, violent protesters has nothing to do with Schurmer threatening justices
Originally Posted By: dagesh
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: dagesh
Originally Posted By: Damanshot
Originally Posted By: SuperBrown
Chuck U Schumer should have been jailed for his thuggish comments.
Ok,, Let's do that.. Then you go out and Arrest the President for his attacks on the judicial system.. Including the attacks on SCOTUS
Did Trump threaten justices?
Whats the difference... Belittle, make false accusations, Lie about them.... I'd say that's enough.
If he truly did those things, which is debatable, it’s not the same as threats.
So in one post you claim Trump's public record of belittling and lying about people is debatable (no it's not - it's on record) ... than you say it's not the same as Trump making threats.
SO .... I post the most obvious instance I know of Trump encouraging and threatening violence. Are you following? Not only did he make those threats and brag about them - people actually got hurt because his supporters took him at his word.
THEN .... you try to say I'm trying to create a stawman argument or suggesting this has nothing to do with Schumer. And in doing so you prove why people are smart to avoid engaging with you because you introduce something by way of normal conversation - then when someone answers and basically provides an instance that you seemed in imply never happen ... you disown the conversation and say it's got nothing to do with the thread topic. Thanks but no thanks?
As for your religion? I don't know what denomination or religion you belong to. I do know you stated complete faith and believe in the Bible. So instead of saying "your" religion - I will say nearly all religions have thousands, hundreds of thousands and indeed estimates of tens of millions of deaths to their name.
Finally - I was in a restaurant eating diner.... you said most leftist protesters are violent ... it is still wrong and incorrect - apologies for my incorrect substitution of the word liberal due to speed reading and typing.
Before I get accused of trolling, it was mgh who took the thread in this direction, not me.
With that said, atheists have killed more people than anyone else by far.
Stalin 20 million
Total killed in Soviet USSR more than 60 million
Mao- Red China. 45 million
Khmer Rougue. Wiped out a quarter of the population in Cambodia
Religions don’t hold a candle to atheists when it comes to efficiency in slaughtering people
With that said, atheists have killed more people than anyone else by far.
You constantly go "ad hominem" and "Strawman" in response to peoples general comments and discussions ... And yet you are the very worst at changing the context of comments and a thread/question/topic .... just like here. No one said atheists killed many or few ... the comment was about deaths attributed to religion.
Some estimates have deaths caused by religions at 100 million+ but they are skewed (in my opinion) by including things like aids deaths in Africa due to the concept that Condoms are sinful. However there have been millions killed that can be directly and unequivocally attributed to religion.
Interesting and extremely telling that [1] you are reluctant to reveal your religion - you are free to discuss or otherwise as you see fit, but for someone who is SO vocal on the subject maybe some transparency would lend credibility instead of preaching but ultimately hiding what you believe in. [2] In order to make "Religion" look better - you need to compare religion to Stalin, Mao and Pol Pot. That's like saying Jack the Ripper was better than Ted Bundy because he only killed 5 women.
The more things change the more they stay the same.
Chuck U Schumer should have been jailed for his thuggish comments.
Ok,, Let's do that.. Then you go out and Arrest the President for his attacks on the judicial system.. Including the attacks on SCOTUS
Did Trump threaten justices?
Whats the difference... Belittle, make false accusations, Lie about them.... I'd say that's enough.
If he truly did those things, which is debatable, it’s not the same as threats.
How in the hell can you possibly deny it.. He did it on Tweeter
And yeah, his comments do indeed threaten people because his followers are threatening those that he picks on....
Your wrong. Did he belittle people he should not have, yes. Did he say things about judges he should not have, yes.
he never threatened one, that I am aware. Although both are despicable, context is still a virtue. To threaten someone, it to state one's intention to take hostile action against someone in retribution for something done or not done.
Saying a judge isn't partial because of his heritage is wrong, extremely wrong, but its not a threat.
I think regardless of what stance you are on, its important to have some variance of truth.
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his comments do indeed threaten people because his followers are threatening those that he picks on
Group of black pastors petitions Congress to censure Schumer for Supreme Court remarks
A group of black pastors has started a petition to urge Congress to censure Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., over his remarks about two Supreme Court justices last week.
"Those remarks, made during a rally at the Supreme Court on a pending case, were clearly intended to influence the decision on that case," a petition from the Coalition of African American Pastors addressed to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell reads. "This behavior is an affront to the dignity of the U.S. Senate. It perpetuates a sense of division in our nation and encourages radicals to approach political disagreements as a forum for violent action."