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#1779724 - 07/30/20 06:29 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: BpG]
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Thank you for calling it a political movement, that's what it is.

Don't know if this has brought up yet, but many of the founders of the BLM movement are self professed marxists. I don't support anyone like that in any capacity.
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#1781199 - 08/06/20 08:39 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: tastybrownies]
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You got links to that info, I'd like to see it.
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#1781770 - 08/08/20 11:26 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: tastybrownies]
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Originally Posted By: tastybrownies
Thank you for calling it a political movement, that's what it is.

Don't know if this has brought up yet, but many of the founders of the BLM movement are self professed marxists. I don't support anyone like that in any capacity.


Are those founders still with the organization?

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#1781835 - 08/08/20 06:21 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: cfrs15]
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Last I heard they are still running it. I am one who will say “Black lives mater” but will not support the BLM organization.
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#1781944 - 08/09/20 03:35 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: Pdawg]
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Originally Posted By: Pdawg
Last I heard they are still running it. I am one who will say “Black lives mater” but will not support the BLM organization.


When was the last you heard?

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#1781954 - 08/09/20 04:35 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: cfrs15]
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Originally Posted By: Pdawg
Last I heard they are still running it. I am one who will say “Black lives mater” but will not support the BLM organization.


When was the last you heard?


Read it and their mission statement online today.
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#1781959 - 08/09/20 05:05 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: Pdawg]
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Originally Posted By: Pdawg
Originally Posted By: cfrs15
Originally Posted By: Pdawg
Last I heard they are still running it. I am one who will say “Black lives mater” but will not support the BLM organization.


When was the last you heard?


Read it and their mission statement online today.


Can you post it?

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#1782005 - 08/09/20 07:35 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: cfrs15]
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Its pretty easy to find, if you have a computer, a browser, and a connection ...

https://blacklivesmatter.com/what-we-believe/

What We Believe

Four years ago, what is now known as the Black Lives Matter Global Network began to organize. It started out as a chapter-based, member-led organization whose mission was to build local power and to intervene when violence was inflicted on Black communities by the state and vigilantes.

In the years since, we’ve committed to struggling together and to imagining and creating a world free of anti-Blackness, where every Black person has the social, economic, and political power to thrive.

Black Lives Matter began as a call to action in response to state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Our intention from the very beginning was to connect Black people from all over the world who have a shared desire for justice to act together in their communities. The impetus for that commitment was, and still is, the rampant and deliberate violence inflicted on us by the state.

Enraged by the death of Trayvon Martin and the subsequent acquittal of his killer, George Zimmerman, and inspired by the 31-day takeover of the Florida State Capitol by POWER U and the Dream Defenders, we took to the streets. A year later, we set out together on the Black Lives Matter Freedom Ride to Ferguson, in search of justice for Mike Brown and all of those who have been torn apart by state-sanctioned violence and anti-Black racism. Forever changed, we returned home and began building the infrastructure for the Black Lives Matter Global Network, which, even in its infancy, has become a political home for many.

Ferguson helped to catalyze a movement to which we’ve all helped give life. Organizers who call this network home have ousted anti-Black politicians, won critical legislation to benefit Black lives, and changed the terms of the debate on Blackness around the world. Through movement and relationship building, we have also helped catalyze other movements and shifted culture with an eye toward the dangerous impacts of anti-Blackness.

These are the results of our collective efforts.

The Black Lives Matter Global Network is as powerful as it is because of our membership, our partners, our supporters, our staff, and you. Our continued commitment to liberation for all Black people means we are continuing the work of our ancestors and fighting for our collective freedom because it is our duty.

Every day, we recommit to healing ourselves and each other, and to co-creating alongside comrades, allies, and family a culture where each person feels seen, heard, and supported.

We acknowledge, respect, and celebrate differences and commonalities.

We work vigorously for freedom and justice for Black people and, by extension, all people.

We intentionally build and nurture a beloved community that is bonded together through a beautiful struggle that is restorative, not depleting.

We are unapologetically Black in our positioning. In affirming that Black Lives Matter, we need not qualify our position. To love and desire freedom and justice for ourselves is a prerequisite for wanting the same for others.

We see ourselves as part of the global Black family, and we are aware of the different ways we are impacted or privileged as Black people who exist in different parts of the world.

We are guided by the fact that all Black lives matter, regardless of actual or perceived sexual identity, gender identity, gender expression, economic status, ability, disability, religious beliefs or disbeliefs, immigration status, or location.

We make space for transgender brothers and sisters to participate and lead.

We are self-reflexive and do the work required to dismantle cisgender privilege and uplift Black trans folk, especially Black trans women who continue to be disproportionately impacted by trans-antagonistic violence.

We build a space that affirms Black women and is free from sexism, misogyny, and environments in which men are centered.

We practice empathy. We engage comrades with the intent to learn about and connect with their contexts.

We make our spaces family-friendly and enable parents to fully participate with their children. We dismantle the patriarchal practice that requires mothers to work “double shifts” so that they can mother in private even as they participate in public justice work.

We disrupt the Western-prescribed nuclear family structure requirement by supporting each other as extended families and “villages” that collectively care for one another, especially our children, to the degree that mothers, parents, and children are comfortable.

We foster a queer&#8208;affirming network. When we gather, we do so with the intention of freeing ourselves from the tight grip of heteronormative thinking, or rather, the belief that all in the world are heterosexual (unless s/he or they disclose otherwise).

We cultivate an intergenerational and communal network free from ageism. We believe that all people, regardless of age, show up with the capacity to lead and learn.

We embody and practice justice, liberation, and peace in our engagements with one another.

************

While it does not directly espouse Marxist theory, the statement is littered with Marxist rhetoric ... the collective, the community, communal network, the village, the collective struggle, economic inequality, globalism, etc.

The only thing missing is "From each, according to their abilities; to each, according to their needs.".

Of course, that's just my take on it.

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#1782045 - 08/09/20 11:10 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: Dave]
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A lot of what you lost as concerns in your closing statements are actually calls to actions that Christ asked of Christians.

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#1790620 - 09/13/20 07:15 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: RocketOptimist]
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BLUE LIVES MATTER!
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#1790656 - 09/13/20 09:35 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: DiamDawg]
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No such thing as ‘blue lives’. You’re absurd. No one is born blue. People put on a uniform they can take off at the end of the day. It’s a job, not a race.
Black Lives Matter.
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#1790657 - 09/13/20 09:38 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: PortlandDawg]
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There is only one race that matters.


The human race. laugh
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#1790724 - 09/13/20 12:16 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: PortlandDawg]
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I’m absurd ... rofl ....

BLUE LIVES are under attack for no other reason than the color of the uniform they wear ...

Wake up and pay attention or get some perspective ...
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#1792005 - 09/14/20 11:31 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: PortlandDawg]
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Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
No such thing as ‘blue lives’. You’re absurd. No one is born blue. People put on a uniform they can take off at the end of the day. It’s a job, not a race.
Black Lives Matter.


Look, I grit my teeth just the same as you when BluLM is a response to BLM, but the reasons you state are over-simplified/misleading, IMO.


Edited by oobernoober (09/14/20 11:32 AM)
Edit Reason: better word
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#1792264 - 09/14/20 08:24 PM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: oobernoober]
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Originally Posted By: oobernoober
Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
No such thing as ‘blue lives’. You’re absurd. No one is born blue. People put on a uniform they can take off at the end of the day. It’s a job, not a race.
Black Lives Matter.


Look, I grit my teeth just the same as you when BluLM is a response to BLM, but the reasons you state are over-simplified/misleading, IMO.


BLUE LIVES MATTER

Grit Away ...
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#1792435 - 09/15/20 09:48 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: DiamDawg]
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You using Blue Lives Matter as a reply/rebuttal to BLM is only an indicator that you're unable to have an adult conversation on the topic.

... then you used all caps... then you bolded it.


My younger sister is an OC Sheriff. The training and rigor she went through to earn her badge was pretty insane. I mean, I knew it was tough, but was still surprised on how tough it was (and this was just me hearing it from her). I also have a bunch of buddies that are officers in different parts of the country. I have more than a healthy respect for what police officers do for us, so when I hear one of them talking about their experiences, I listen and try to learn. It's no different than when a friend that's a minority is talking. Just active listening.
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#1792457 - 09/15/20 10:27 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: oobernoober]
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U have no clue why I posted this here ... NONE ...

I believe all lives matter and as black lives are a subset of that I believe they matter as much as anyone else’s ... no more, no less ...

Look at the time I posted it and what happened the night before and see if that helps u figure out why i posted it ...

If you’d like to have an adult convo about it .. PM me, I’ll be more than happy to have one ...

Thank your sister for her service please ... thumbsup
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#1792504 - 09/15/20 11:18 AM Re: Would you say it?: Black Lives Matter [Re: DiamDawg]
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Originally Posted By: DiamDawg
Originally Posted By: oobernoober
Originally Posted By: PortlandDawg
No such thing as ‘blue lives’. You’re absurd. No one is born blue. People put on a uniform they can take off at the end of the day. It’s a job, not a race.
Black Lives Matter.


Look, I grit my teeth just the same as you when BluLM is a response to BLM, but the reasons you state are over-simplified/misleading, IMO.


BLUE LIVES MATTER

Grit Away ...




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