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If Cincy can get an OL they’ll make our division scary good.

They will most likely target interior OL in 2 of their next 3 picks

I don’t mind any of the moves the teams in our division made. The Steelers taking a running back in the first round when they can’t run block is perfect.

The Bengals are the Bengals. They took precisely the right player to get their QB killed, again.

The Ravens got a talented WR and an Edge guy, but I think we counter both of those rather well. In fact, I view it as them trying to counter what we have because without them getting better at those positions, they'll go nowhere. Their defense lost a lot of DLine talent, and we have enough secondary to cover half their roster at once, and we added a CB right before they went WR. They're trying to Keep Up with the Jones'.

The Steelers HAD to go RB because they cannot replace Ben where they were picking, and Ben can't throw. Their only hope & strategy is ball control running offense with minimal throwing by Ben and a healthy defense. Their D will still be pretty good once they get guys back, but a quality RB was their only hope for any sort of offense.

Chase is a special WR - and clearly Bengals (and my Bengals Fan friends) believe

Chase & A.N.Other 2nd Round OL help > Sewell & A.N. Other 2nd Round WR.

I tend to agree. Especially if they use 2 out of the next 3 picks for OL.

I agree with that take. That would make for a very scary offense. But, their defense is bad. Real Bad.

Yep... their D is going to be bad again, if they are smart they will only try to fix the O this season. Their LB situation is / was as bad our worse than ours. They have lost key personnel on the DL. It might be ugly.

But they have a great WR core now. They have a good RB. They have a "franchise QB" ... they need to add to the OL and add OL depth for when they get injuries! . . . Next year will be the time to fix the D if they are smart.

It's a gamble, and it's definitely way too early to totally poo-poo them, for sure, but Reiff is old and on his last legs, and Williams has only played 10 games in two seasons (labrum and then knee). They have a Guard playing at Center and then question marks.... and no depth. Our DLine is going to feast on them.

It can definitely work for them, eventually, but I think I'd have invested more in the OLine if I were them. Quality, young OLine - especially at the tackle positions - are harder to come across than capable WR's.

And they already had a pretty good receiver group. They were always going to be able to score points. Now they will be able to score points and test Burrow's durability again.

Before his injury I thought Borrow was pretty mobile but in my opinion he needs to lose the attitude that he can shake tacklers like he did at LSU.

I remember one of our games last year, either Richardson or Clayborn had a clear shot at him, I think our guy was unblocked on a naked rollout and instead of throwing it away or just hitting the turf he tried to spin out of a the tackle and he was thrown down like a rag doll. He is big and strong for a QB but he shouldn't try to take on DL.

My hope is his inconsistency in hitting open deep receivers stays. That is a huge weakness if not corrected. Time will tell.

If Burrow Goes down again we can revisit that #6 pick ...

If Rothlesburger gets beat up week after week we can revisit that #24 Pick ...

If Oweh shows he can sack a QB and if any WR can shine in baltimore?

Richardson. I remember that play.

I also remember Garrett stripping the ball out while Gustin absolutely demolished him.

They need two interior OL in the next 3 round IMO, or they are going to risk turning him into Luck 2.0.

Man, I hope they don't take Landon Dickerson. Billy Price at center always makes me smile.

I liked the Bengals pick. In Chase I see a guy who can be one of the best WRs to play the game, with Sewell I see a guy who can be pretty good but nothing more. I thought Slater was the better OT prospect.

Cincy has starting OT (imho), they lack IOL more than anything - and depth at tackle. I fully expect them to draft Dickerson (or other G/C) the 2nd. I can see Jalen Mayfield in the 3rd (or other backup RT).

Regarding Pittsburgh, I don't want them to take OT Nothing but punters and kickers and long snappers. For the record, I think Harris was a great pick and I hate it.

Regarding Baltimore, I think they should draft (stop me if you heard this before) punters and kickers and long snappers. I'm not sure how I think about their draft. I hope Oweh is a bust in Baltimore, then shines in the NFC after his first contract is up - and hopefully Bateman is negated by Newsome

I thought the Browns add some spice on offense with Schwartz. Fastest player in draft. But I always have doubts with Auburn WRs.anybody recall Ricardo Louis. ? They just dont produce NFL quality WRs.
JOK might be the steal of the draft.
But we have heard that tagline with at least
1-Browns draft pick since 99
I think Newsome can be Pro Bowl sooner than later. Super smart IQ character

The Steelers draft just looks underwhelming
Najee Harris looks the part. But how many Bama
RBs pan out?
Trent Richardson bust. Mark Ingram, he was ok
The Cowboys drafted a RB 3 yrs ago. What has he done?
Friermuth gives Ben a middle of field option
But TEs take awhile to come into.form.
I just dont see any potential game changers
In.their draft.

The Ravens added some length and depth at WR
I think.Bateman will be really good or bad.
No middle ground.
Onawah just reminds me of Barkevious Mingo
Looks the part but is lacks that desire to take
A game over.

The Bengals draft is the most debateable
Everyone acts like Sewell was the only OT
In the draft capable of coming in and starting
The fact of the matter is the OT/OG positions
Were deep in the draft
But JaMarr Chase was clearly the best WR
In the draft and the talent dropoff was greater
At WR. The Bengals needed a playmaker that
Could open up.The deep.game.Burrow struggled with his deep.game last year.
CHASE WAS ONLY 19 years old and put up
20 TDs.
The Bengals oline issues was a combination
Of Burrows style of play,injuries and looks like
Bad position coach and Burrow just being a rookie.
The Bengals added what, 3 lineman in the
The draft.....Jackson Carmen aint no joke

Schwartz has the tools. It doesn't matter that he went to Auburn. We have OBJ and Jarvis to help him and it sounds like he is willing to work to be good. He can be used in many different ways because of his speed/ He can take a 5 yard slant and run 80 yards with it. He'll be quite a weapon when he learns the O.

Played better behind C Travis Frederick, for 1 year, more than any other time.

The Bengals did take 3 total OL in the draft, A tackle in the 3rd, center late.

Being ignorant I did some reading, one article said they had 4+ dudes fail at RG for them last year.
And they are satisfied with their OT starters, 2, with really no depth.
Have gone back to a previous OL coach.

Good news, The Bengals, in typical Bungle fashion, IMO, used 3 OL picks and didn't fix their OL,

A real fix would have netted them at least 1 legit off the bench OT even by keeping a previous starter.

They will be hopelessly outmatched against any kind of real Pass Rush the Browns would put on them as their OT's consisting entirely of 2 50% avg. starters, and swinging doors as backups, they'll have little options to reinforce anything.

(I couldn't believe it myself, after the fix, I think, 2003 Browns OL, at worst, nothing to be scared of.) (young also)

Now, Facing the Browns, the Bengals, and any team facing the Browns front 7 should realistically think there will be times to go 6 man line, and keep 2 TE's in on protection, Max protect, just to keep the QB upright.
They appear to be unable to.

Their strongest vet OL appears to be the RT, (of course, why would they put him on the left, it's Cincy) (Maybe Burros' a lefty, I didn't look.)
Their 2nd is probably going to be the rookie at RG.
Followed by the Center coming back from a knee himself.

They present more of an obstacle with their upgrades at #2 #3, and #4 CB. and their new Safety. As they really didn't have a strong secondary last year.

Would you want to face the Browns front 7 with (1) option at each OT spot? Browns should feast on this group like it's feline thanksgiving.

Hope they don't get forced into a must pass situation.

No team started more combinatons of the front 5, 14, in 2020, < a memory from one article.
To that I say, Long Keep Zac Jackson.

Good post TL.

The AFC North is the strongest divison
Each team has proven arms at QB.
Its very easy to say the Bengals will be the
4th place team.
Burrow got hit alot and eventually missed games
But someone pointed out they did draft 3 olineman
And changed coaches......
Didnt the Browns do that last year with Callahan?
So whos to.say that cant work in Cincinnati?
The Browns bar none are the best team in the
North. Most complete.
But I.dont think they are that good where they can just past teams.
Look even Cincy gave the Browns all they wanted
Last year garbage oline and all.

I think.Pittsburgh is the team on the decline.
Now thats a that didnt address their oline.

Proven arms? I dunno about that.

Ben's once-proven arm looked shot last year...maybe another year past surgery and he will get somewhat back to form. He's old....they have no one in the wings.

LJ has proven that his arm isn't sufficient when he must play NFL-QB. When the best way to beat a QB is to keep him in the pocket and make him throw the ball...well...you know. Their most-proven "arm(s)" is their defense.

I do not get the Burrow infatuation...he hasn't proven a thing in the NFL outside of the physical measurables. His arm talent is not in Baker's orbit. Lofting a ball 40 yards downfield to the fastest guy in the stadium does not = arm talent (ie most every throwing highlight of Justin Fields). Accurate? I think I've seen that. Arm talent? No...not like our guy. He has been given the benefit of the doubt right out of the bucket. Odd to me.

Baker? I easily put him in the top 10...his only weakness is that he's 2" too short. If he's comfortable in the offense and his coaching...the sky is the limit.

Ben isn't getting any younger...LJ isn't going to "find" accuracy or arm talent...Burrow still has a lot to prove and is coming off a serious injury. None of those teams have a backup QB who could be counted on for a stretch of games.

If Ben gets back some form, LJ is allowed to continue playing college-QB and if Burrow rises to half of his hype...the North will be extremely tough.

I also think the NFCW is really good too. Wilson, Murray, and Stafford ... and the Lance wild card. Plus all of them have pretty good defenses