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Barkley is about 2-years younger but is already guaranteed to make more than Hunt in 2022. Both are in the final year of their contracts with Hunt scheduled to make 6.25M and Barkley, who's playing under his 5th year option rookie deal, 7.217M. I don't think the Browns can afford to continue paying two players #1 salaries for a single position. Chubb already is receiving #1 RB money (5.2M in 2022, 14.85M in 2023 and 16.2M in 2024) - surely Barkley and Hunt will be searching for the same next off season.

j/c:



I think Godwin will cost too much. Allen Robinson too...although I really, REALLY like Robinson. Cooper obviously will be expensive.

I'm happy to see, if there is truth to this, that Mike Williams is on the list. He most likely is the cheapest on this list and I feel has potential to be a legit #1 WR.

If there was ever a year to completely reshape your WR room, the 2022 FA class and draft is the year to do it.

You nailed it.
Opportunity meets need. A glorious match (hopefully).

I looked at the field yesterday to try to see which one of these names would get us off drafting a WR at #13.

I love Mike Williams because he provides the cheapest way to pass at 13, if that's the right move.

Options, depending on how the early part of the draft falls vs the pressure of trying to make another uber-expensive WR "fit". It just makes more sense because we will obviously double-dip and grab another WR relatively high anyway.

That insurance policy could unlock us at #13 and allow us to explore the wealth of talent at WR later. As a philosophy of "fixing" the WR room, this approach seems to have the most upside.
One of them, both of them or neither of them could end up being a true #1 right away. Doesn't really matter as long as we have enough talent to make a decision on Baker Mayfield next year.

Imma sidebar with Mac though, just to make sure the analytics work.

Someone on the radio said Mike Williams and Chris Godwin will get franchise tagged.

It comes down to how the FO values the WR position group compared to other position groups in FA. IMO, I'm not sure it is that high compared to QB, OL, DL, CB, and S. Luckily, we have many of those boxes checked minus DL and, arguably, QB but I don't see us drafting a QB in the first round or being in a position to trade for an QB upgrade.

The defensive line might affect where they want to commit guaranteed money, both in FA and the draft. And that is why a guy like Mike Williams could be a likely target compared to other WRs on that list.

Allen Robinson in free agency and small trade down picking up an extra pick for 2023 and drafting Traylon Burks.

The last time the Browns double dipped at WR in the draft was Corey Coleman, Ricardo Lewis, Jordan Peyton and Rashard Higgins, iirc.
Unless you count Harrison Bryant and David Njoku as Wrs.
Or Wait, they double dipped just last year in Schwartz and Felton if you count Felton as a WR. Don't forget Donovon Peoples-Jones.

Maybe they should draft a Quarterback and a Coach that wants to use him.

Massaquoi and Robiskie, about 10 years ago.

While the draft may be deep in WRs. in all the mocks I have seen, a lot of WRs are going very early. We may be able to trade back a little and still get a good pick, but I do not think we can count on getting a game changer in the second or third round.

Did you have to? Just painful.

I think we can write this guy off our wish-list:

https://sports.yahoo.com/falcons-wr-calvin-ridley-suspended-204700457.html

The NFL announced Monday the Atlanta Falcons wide receiver has been suspended indefinitely -- at least for the 2022 NFL season -- for gambling on NFL games during the 2021 campaign.

WGGTG!!

Another one bites the dust. I wonder if he'll get the Pete Rose treatment? I highly doubt it.

https://www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id...ning-trade-offers-rb-christian-mccaffrey

If we don’t keep hunt, I’d take CMAC for sure

We still have Nick Chubb.

Where are the Browns spending their money compared to other teams in the league as of today 3/11/2021? With approx 18M left in cap space and about 8M-9M needed for the draft, the Browns need to free up some cap space. So where is the money being spent:

LB (6 players) 8.217M Cap Dollars - 3.27% of the cap - NFL Rank 28th
Special Teams (3 players) 2.85M Cap Dollars - 1.31% of the cap - NFL Rank 27th
DL (5 players) 19.493M Cap Dollars - 8.95% of the cap - NFL Rank 25th
WR (5 players) 20.187M Cap Dollars - 9.27% of the cap - NFL Rank 20th (includes Landry's 16.379M Cap hit)
Secondary (10 players) 34.852M Cap Dollars - 16.01% of the cap - NFL Rank 12th
Quarterback (2 players) 27.291M Cap Dollars - 12.54% of the cap - NFL Rank 10th (includes Keenum's highest paid backup 8.433M Cap hit)
Running Back (4 players) 13.133M Cap Dollars - 6.03% of the cap - NFL Rank 7th
Offensive Line (14 players) 45.623M Cap Dollars - 20.96% of the cap - NFL Rank 5th (Includes Conkin's restructure)
Tight End (5 players) 26.798M Cap Dollars - 12.31% of the cap - NFL Rank 2nd (only the NEP have more cap dollars invested in the TE position than CLE - includes Njoku's franchise tag cost)

AFC North investment ranking by position:
Linebacker: Pittsburgh 3rd, Baltimore 23rd, Cincinnati 26th, Cleveland 28th
Special Teams: Baltimore 2nd, Pittsburgh 3rd, Cleveland 27th, Cincinnati 29th
Defensive Line: Pittsburgh 8th, Cincinnati 12th, Cleveland 25th, Baltimore 32nd
Wide Receiver: Cincinnati 15th, Cleveland 20th, Baltimore 24th, Pittsburgh 28th
Secondary: Cincinnati 3rd, Baltimore 6th, Cleveland 12th, Pittsburgh 22nd
Quarterback: Cleveland 10th, Baltimore 12th, Cincinnati 23rd, Pittsburgh 30th
Running Back: Cincinnati 4th, Cleveland 7th, Baltimore 13th, Pittsburgh 19th
Offensive Line: Cleveland 5th, Baltimore 8th, Cincinnati 28th, Pittsburgh 31st
Tight End: Cleveland 2nd, Baltimore 3rd, Pittsburgh 21st, Cincinnati 29th

Top Team Investment by position:
Linebacker: Los Angeles Chargers 57.412M
Special Teams: Seattle 10.543M
Defensive Line: Kansas City 64.480M
Wide Receiver: Tampa Bay 45.077M
Secondary: New Orleans 55.269M
Quarterback: Green Bay 51.451M
Running Back: Dallas 22.795M
Offensive Line: Arizona 55.429M
Tight End: New England 31.094M

So they're not going to cut Landry to get increased cap space? Thanks.

Nobody said the Browns were not going to cut Landry. The post is saying what the Browns have invested as of today Friday March 11, 2022. Unless you have some kind of inside information that no one else in the world has - Landry is still a Cleveland Brown at this moment.

the Browns have somewhere around 17M to 18M left in available cap at this moment. 8M-9M or so will be needed for the draft so that leaves 9M to 10M give or take with no #1 or #2 WR, no Tech1 or Tech 3 DT, no DE, weak azz LB group, poor special teams and needed depth across the team. The post shows where the money is invested at this time and where they should invest due to ranking. Surely the Browns are going to free up some cap but spending that money wisely will dictate the direction the team is going and if they are actually going to be competitive. How much cap they create will also have a huge bearing on their success. Three defensive line starting positions are open and 2-3 WR positions as well. That's 5-6 positions that cannot all be filled through the draft so FA or trades is a must. 10M is not going to fill those spots so Berry needs to find, my questimation is an additional 25M-30M, the funds to field a playoff bound team. Where he gets that money is the key.

You might notice that none of the above included giving new deals to players due or coming due - like Ward for example. That throws another wrench into the pot that's going to require additional cap if it's going to be done this year. This is exactly why spending 10.9M on Njoku was a bad move. The Browns do not and absolutely should not be the 2nd highest team with investment in the TE position for bottom 25% production. Not with all the other holes that require even more urgent attention.

Anyway, in the simplest terms, the Browns need more cap space and the post shows where the money is currently invested. Take it for what it's worth.

So how will and have all these NFL teams that have little to no cap space sign their rookie draft picks then? You see, it seems you feel you're the one who has the crystal ball here. If Landry is cut, which most indications are, he will, then we have a lot more cap space. You just have all your feather ruffled over one signing, Njoku. But then as much as you go around complaining about this team and think you would make such a better GM, I completely understand "what it's worth".

I was writing a long couple paragraphs and said forget it, no one wants to read all of that. i'll get straight to the point.


They have end of season and off-season meetings for this time period.
These decisions on who to cut, who to re-sign, who to target in Free agency, who to trade/draft are all projected and laid out before hand. Franchising Njoku wasn't made on a whim. They know how much they can spend and who may/will restructure to stay under the cap and be able to field a team.