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I like that Biden is trying to tie aid for Ukraine along with aid for Israel. Might allow for Ukraine to get what they're asking from us.


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Still wondering why the Far Right is so Pro-Putin. Some of the things Trump's own sons have said about Zelensky is sickening. It could just be me, but there HAS to be something nefarious going on, somewhere.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Still wondering why the Far Right is so Pro-Putin.

Pretty simple. The far right are communists in NAZI uniforms.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Still wondering why the Far Right is so Pro-Putin. Some of the things Trump's own sons have said about Zelensky is sickening. It could just be me, but there HAS to be something nefarious going on, somewhere.

It's a hard thing to fathom. And sadly the cult members that blindly follow along support abandoning Ukraine as well. I never in my lifetime thought I would see so many, especially Republicans, go so soft on Putin and basically support handing over a nation which the borders our NATO allies to him. That will undoubtedly emboldden Putin and create a situation that will only cause the tension and danger level to increase in Europe. Make no mistake about it, that's outright supporting Putin.


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Hell they would give him Europe and never flinch. They already talked about ending NATO.


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Originally Posted by dawglover05
Still wondering why the Far Right is so Pro-Putin. Some of the things Trump's own sons have said about Zelensky is sickening. It could just be me, but there HAS to be something nefarious going on, somewhere.


It's not just you, it's clear that the Trumps and many on the Right are in love with Putin and the way he runs Russia with an iron fist.

Look at the horrible way that Trump talks about retribution if he gets back into office. Putin kills his opponents. That's what they like to do.. Now look at the way many on the right talk and act. Then they have the nerve to call Democrats communist.


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It’s sad. The conservatives of my father’s generation sought to project a stoic strength. Speak softly and carry a big stick. Let the other leaders pound their shoes on the table and project inflated strength. Don’t seek confrontation, but when it’s inevitable, leave no doubt. Now this Republican faction yells loudly at our own allies.


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I can't help wondering what Ronald Reagan would say.


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...whatever the script said? thumbsup


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They've thrown out the script and written a new one that in no way resembles the old one. The new one looks like it could be made into a B movie horror flick.


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They've thrown out the script and written a new one that in no way resembles the old one. The new one looks like it could be made into a B movie horror flick.
…written in crayon.


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https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/ar...ce-amid-claims-coup-underway-Moscow.html

Russian coup? Putin dead? Idk if any of this is true. Daily mail usually has the scoop.


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Putin will never die. Ai will keep him in power. The Russian populace are generally helpless sheep.


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There have been a lot of weird headlines about him lately that haven't been credible. Everything from cardiac arrest to cancer. There were also rumors about Kadyrov that weren't true. Part of me wonders if they were leaking things to find out who the leakers were. Since all the leaks were via Telegram, which is heavily used by Russia, that is what my speculation leads me to think is most likely.


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NATO freezes a Cold War-era security pact after Russia pulls out, raising questions on arms control

BRUSSELS (AP) — NATO member countries that signed a key Cold War-era security treaty froze their participation in the pact on Tuesday just hours after Russia pulled out, raising fresh questions about the future of arms control agreements in Europe.

Many of NATO’s 31 allies are parties to the Treaty of Conventional Armed Forces in Europe, which was aimed at preventing Cold War rivals from massing forces at or near their mutual borders. The CFE was signed in November 1990 as the Soviet bloc was crumbling but was not fully ratified until two years later.

NATO said that Tuesday’s action by its signatory members was required because “a situation whereby Allied State Parties abide by the Treaty, while Russia does not, would be unsustainable.”

Earlier in the day, Moscow said it had finalized its withdrawal from the treaty. The long-expected move, which the Kremlin blamed in part on NATO’s continued expansion closer to Russia’s borders, came after lawmakers in Moscow approved a bill proposed by President Vladimir Putin denouncing the CFE.

U.S. National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan said suspending the obligations by Washington and its allies will strengthen NATO’s “deterrence and defense capacity by removing restrictions that impact planning, deployments, and exercises -– restrictions that no longer bind Russia after Moscow’s withdrawal.”

Russia’s actions “further demonstrates Moscow’s continued disregard for arms control,” he added.

The German Foreign Ministry underscored that Berlin and its allies are not pulling out of the treaty. “In the case of a fundamental change in Russia’s behavior, a renewed implementation of the CFE remains possible,” it said.

The ministry said Germany intends to stick to the national limits for weapons systems in the treaty. It criticized Moscow’s withdrawal, saying that “Russia is destroying another pillar of our European security and arms control architecture.”

“Securing a balanced conventional potential of forces in Europe cannot be realized without the involvement of Russia,” it added.

The treaty was one of a number of major arms control treaties involving Russia and the U.S. that has been crippled in recent years.

Last week, Putin signed a bill revoking Russia’s ratification of the Comprehensive Nuclear Test Ban Treaty, a move that he said was needed to establish parity with the United States.

In February, with U.S.-Russia tensions running high over Ukraine, Moscow suspended its participation in the New START Treaty, the last arms control pact that remains between the two countries.

Both countries also pulled out of the 1987 Intermediate-range Nuclear Forces Treaty in 2019, blaming each other for violations.

The INF Treaty, which was signed by U.S. President Ronald Reagan and Soviet leader Mikhail Gorbachev, banned the production, testing and deployment of land-based cruise and ballistic missiles with a range of 500 to 5,500 kilometers (310 to 3,410 miles).

William Alberque, director of Strategy, Technology and Arms Control at The International Institute for Strategic Studies, expressed concern that another arms control treaty is under threat.

“What is needed right now is more transparency, more risk reduction, more what we would call guardrails on competition,” he said. “We basically need to manage the competition so that it doesn’t spiral into crippling arms races.”

When it was signed, the CFE envisaged weapons limits for the Warsaw Pact and NATO, but the Warsaw Pact ceased to exist shortly after it was signed. Unsuccessful attempts were made to renegotiate its conditions.

Russia suspended its participation in 2007, and in 2015 announced its intention to completely withdraw.

In February 2022, Putin sent hundreds of thousands of Russian troops into Ukraine, which also shares borders with NATO members that signed the CFE: Poland, Romania and Hungary.

Announcing Moscow’s withdrawal from the treaty had been completed, the Russian Foreign Ministry blamed the U.S. and its allies for the move as well as the West’s allegedly “destructive position” on the treaty.

“We left the door open for a dialogue on ways to restore the viability of conventional arms control in Europe,” it said. “However, our opponents did not take advantage of this opportunity.”

The ministry said that “even the formal preservation” of the treaty has become “unacceptable from the point of view of Russia’s fundamental security interests,” citing developments in Ukraine and NATO’s recent expansion.

NATO said its members remain committed “to reduce military risk, and prevent misperceptions and conflicts.” It said the alliance will continue to “consult on and assess the implications of the current security environment and its impact on the security” of the Euro-Atlantic region.

https://apnews.com/article/russia-treaty-arms-control-cold-war-39038fa5a73a4a33bccce6a5c60be341

And some seem to suggest we just hand over Ukraine to Putin.


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Russia ramps up attacks on key eastern Ukraine cities of Bakhmut and Avdiivka

KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Russian forces have ramped up attacks in eastern Ukraine in an attempt to gain ground near two key front line cities, Ukrainian military officials said Sunday.

Moscow’s troops have begun a push to regain territory near Bakhmut, the eastern mining city that was the site of the war’s bloodiest battle before falling into Russian hands in May, the head of Ukraine’s ground forces wrote on the Telegram messaging app.

Ukrainian troops had recaptured the heights over Bakhmut and made some advances west, north and south of the city since Kyiv launched its summer counteroffensive.

“Toward Bakhmut, the Russians have become more active and are trying to recapture previously lost positions. … Enemy attacks are being repelled,” Col. Gen. Oleksandr Syrskyi wrote in a Telegram update on Sunday afternoon.

A Russian Defense Ministry spokesman said Sunday that Russian forces over the previous day repelled five Ukrainian attacks near Klischiivka and Kurdyumivka, two small settlements lying south of Bakhmut. Lt. Gen. Igor Konashenkov made the claim at the latest of regular press briefings.

Ukraine’s long-awaited counteroffensive has so far resulted in only incremental gains and heavy losses, with Ukrainian troops struggling to punch through Russian lines in the south. Meanwhile, Moscow’s forces have attempted to press forward in the northeast, likely with a view to distract Kyiv and minimize the number of troops Ukraine is able to send to key southern and eastern battles.

Ukraine’s General Staff said that Russian troops were also continuing their weekslong push to encircle Avdiivka, a Ukrainian stronghold south of Bakhmut and a key target since the beginning of the war. It’s considered the gateway to parts of the eastern Donetsk region under Kyiv’s control. The General Staff said Russia’s air force was playing a key part in the latest assault.

Gen. Oleksandr Tarnavskyi, who leads Ukrainian troops fighting in and near Avdiivka, said Sunday that the attacking Russian forces were ramping up airstrikes, particularly those using guided bombs. He wrote on Telegram that Russian troops had launched 30 airstrikes and 712 artillery barrages at the city and surrounding areas over the previous day, and clashed almost 50 times with Ukrainian units.

Also on Sunday, Ukraine’s intelligence agency claimed responsibility for a powerful blast in the country’s occupied south the day before that they said killed “at least three” officers serving with Russia’s internal military force.

In an online statement, the Main Intelligence Directorate (GUR) of Ukraine’s Ministry of Defense called the explosion, which rocked the headquarters of the Russian occupation authorities in the city of Melitopol on Saturday, “an act of revenge (…) carried out by representatives of the local resistance movement.”

“At least three officers of the Russian (National) Guard were eliminated,” the statement said, referring to Russia’s internal military agency that reports directly to the Kremlin.

It added that the strike was carried out “during a meeting of the occupiers” attended by National Guard officers as well as operatives from Russia’s main security agency, the FSB.

Melitopol, a city in Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia region that had a pre-war population of over 150,000, was captured by Russian troops just days into the war. It now lies well behind its southern front line, even as a Ukrainian counteroffensive continues to grind on in Zaporizhzhia.

Russian authorities did not immediately respond to the Ukrainian claims, which could not be independently verified. The announcement came just over a day after more than a dozen freight cars carrying cargo in Russia’s western Ryazan region were derailed by an improvised explosive device, according to Russian law enforcement.

Nineteen carriages traveling from the town of Rybnoye were thrown from the tracks and 15 were damaged, investigators wrote in a statement on social media. They said they would be opening a criminal investigation on terrorism charges.

A regional branch of Ukraine’s public broadcaster, Suspilne, on Saturday cited anonymous sources from Ukraine’s GUR as claiming that the intelligence agency was behind the blast. A spokesman for the GUR, Andriy Yusov, that same day refused to confirm or deny the agency’s involvement, but said that similar strikes within Russia “will continue.” Yusov made the remarks in an interview with the Ukrainian armed forces’ official news service, ArmyInform.

Russian officials have previously blamed pro-Ukrainian saboteurs for several attacks on the country’s railway system since Moscow invaded the country in February 2022, although no group has claimed responsibility for the damage.

In the southern Ukrainian city of Kherson, a 64-year-old man was killed when Russian shells slammed into his yard, Ukrainian regional Gov. Oleksandr Prokudin said. Prokudin added that the man’s wife was hospitalized with a skull injury, concussion and shrapnel wounds to her legs.

Prokudin said that Russian forces shelled Kherson and the surrounding region 62 times over the previous 24 hours, wounding four civilians and damaging one of the city’s libraries. The city has come under near-daily attacks since Ukraine recaptured it a year ago.

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...gLtVSo8bYU_-_hkvqWBZgophTZhkM2w9KGg1tO0g

Civilians suffer casualties as Russia renews push to take eastern Ukrainian towns

https://www.pbs.org/newshour/world/...ews-push-to-take-eastern-ukrainian-towns


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