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Browns sign Bowens to four-year dealComment Email Print Share By John Clayton
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New Browns coach Eric Mangini continues to bring parts of his former team, the New York Jets, to his new post on Lake Erie. Cleveland signed linebacker David Bowens to a four-year deal Tuesday.
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Bowens became the third former Jet to join the Browns. In the past several days, the Browns signed defensive tackle C.J. Mosley and cornerback Hank Poteat. Bowens, according to a source, agreed to a four-year, $7.2 million deal.
The versatile Bowens was an important role player during Mangini's time with the Jets. He started seven games over the past two years, and helped fill in as a starting inside linebacker when David Harris was hurt last season. Bowens can play inside or outside linebacker.
The Browns are Bowens' sixth NFL team. He's played with the Broncos, Packers, Redskins, Dolphins and Jets.
John Clayton is a senior writer for ESPN.com.
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While this move isn't surprising, it's surprising that Grossi hasn't already written an article about how horrible this move is.
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OUR LB PROBLEMS ARE SOLVEDDDDDD!!!!!!! WOOOO 
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Another depth signing.
Barton and Elam...do it now.
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Good solid move.....that gives us depth at ILBer. HE can fill in from end to end whick makes him versatile. I like it.
He replaces Andra and is as good.....SORRY AD fans.
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Its a decent signing,but you have to ask yourself how much of a upgrade a journey LB'er is.
The Browns past history from 1999 suggests that they bring in a vet LB via free agency,they ususally don't pan out.
Guys like Rudd,Holmes,and McGinest did not pan out.
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Well.. There goes Beau Bell's chances of getting playing time.
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Its a decent signing,but you have to ask yourself how much of a upgrade a journey LB'er is.
The Browns past history from 1999 suggests that they bring in a vet LB via free agency,they ususally don't pan out.
Guys like Rudd,Holmes,and McGinest did not pan out.
That's pre-ManKok.
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Well, there were some concerns about his ability even after we drafted him, IIRC.
But, I hope that this coaching staff is more concerned about putting the best players on the field and not just the people they're most familiar with. If Bell is the best player available, he should get on the field. Hopefully.
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Solid backup. Versatile, good ST'er.
4 years is much, but I'm sure there is a buyout option. Now it's time to get Barton.
you had a good run Hank.
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Yeah, but more important than the number of years is the guarantee and also the contract setup.
It could be a 4 year contract with a lot of it backloaded so we can avoid it if he doesn't pan out, or something like that.
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Yeah, but more important than the number of years is the guarantee and also the contract setup.
It could be a 4 year contract with a lot of it backloaded so we can avoid it if he doesn't pan out, or something like that.
Exactly. It's probably not a loaded contract, so they should be okay with cap.
On a side note, he's the best player we have picked up so far this offseason...not like that means anything.
you had a good run Hank.
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ManKok.
Others have mentioned it so I may as well voice my opinion on the nickname.
Not only is it vulgar and immature and a sophmorish attempt at humor, this particular pairing of the two names, it is anything but flattering to the men involved or the Browns organization. Now why in the hell would a Browns fan wish to take the part of a cuckold?
I understand you're young and inpressionible but you might reconsider using a term that makes fun of your team and the butt of jokes not to mention is childish and perhaps totally the opposite of what you percieve it to be.
Just sayin'.
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Barton Elam and a WR Maybe another CB and we'll be ready to hopefully get our studs in the draft....
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On a side note, he's the best player we have picked up so far this offseason...
I dont know.....he prolly wont start....he will spot duty and play in goal line like CJ.
Royal on the other hand is VERY cabable of starting along side Rucker on most two TE sets....maybe even get some snaps on single sets.
Royal is a lot better player than you guys are giving him. 
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I like the signing and would not worry about the contract, it´s only 1.8mil/year..he´s a standout STeamer and can fill in at ILB/OLB...he´s basically the C.Thompson--->Orr successor
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SORRY AD fans.
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Good solid move.....that gives us depth at ILBer. HE can fill in from end to end whick makes him versatile. I like it.
He replaces Andra and is as good.....SORRY AD fans.
you think he will take over ADs spot? 
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No where did i say that he would take over ADs spot.  I said "he REPLACES AD and is as good" More like....his spot on the roster under ILBers. As for who will.... Beau Bell......or unless we draft Maaluaga.
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Anyone at linebacker would make me happy right now. We needed more boddies there.
edit: Oh yeah, Barton seems like a lock now don't you think? That would really be nice.
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I like the signing and would not worry about the contract, it´s only 1.8mil/year..he´s a standout STeamer and can fill in at ILB/OLB...he´s basically the C.Thompson--->Orr successor
Nah, he's much, much better.
Unlike those two you mentioned, who were bums, Bowens is a natural rusher.
IMHO, he's a 3rd down/passing situation rush-end. He represents insurance in case we can't find an OLB in the draft.
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Manziel, see Josh Gordon. Dumbass.***
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But doesn't it bother you just a tad that all these so-called backups or situational players are making the Browns their 5th or 6th team? If they were decent wouldn't they have settled in by, say, their 3rd team and stayed put? Every roster needs filler. So none of these signings are bad (check that, I'm not so sure about Hank Gotbeat, er... Poteat) but none of them make me go, "YEAH!". Hopefully, the Draft will rev up my engines....... 
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Guys like Rudd,Holmes,and McGinest did not pan out.
You are kinda wrong about that Impact... Rudd, with the exception of one Bone headed play,, did a decent job here.... Holmes was very solid here... Look at the positive, you were only wrong on 2 out of 3.
Will someone tell me why, if Mangini was hated and thought so little of in NY,,, Why are so many players signing here from the Jets... I thought he was hated.......
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IMHO, he's a 3rd down/passing situation rush-end. He represents insurance in case we can't find an OLB in the draft.
Or that the one that is drafted needs a bit of time to mature..
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Well.. There goes Beau Bell's chances of getting playing time.
If Beau Bell can't find a way to get playing time because we signed some depth/roll players from the Jets, then it's not because of those players, it would be because Bell just isn't that good. Good players find a way to get on the field.
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Will someone tell me why, if Mangini was hated and thought so little of in NY,,, Why are so many players signing here from the Jets... I thought he was hated.......
ohhh man-- did you have to feed the fire!! 
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Barton seems like a lock now don't you think? That would really be nice.
my thoughts exactly. I thought it was Barton that everyone was comparing to DA, saying that he was the step up. Bowens and DA seem like different kinds of players- with Bowens having the potential to go outside. I expect this signing to be announced soon.
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ManKok.
Others have mentioned it so I may as well voice my opinion on the nickname.
Not only is it vulgar and immature and a sophmorish attempt at humor, this particular pairing of the two names, it is anything but flattering to the men involved or the Browns organization. Now why in the hell would a Browns fan wish to take the part of a cuckold?
thanks ref.
I feel the same way about "Jeannie" as well- not that its vulgar, but it seems negative and belittling.
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Ref, I understand your point.. but am I the only one that sees "ManKok" and reads it "Man-Coke"? as opposed to the more vulgar pronunciation...
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No you're not.I'm not nearly as sharp as I used to be,so it took awhile for me to figure out what all the fuss was about.
If they don't start winning football games,Mankok and Jeannie will end up being some of the nicer names they'll be called.
Indecision may,or maynot,be my problem
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Ref, I understand your point.. but am I the only one that sees "ManKok" and reads it "Man-Coke"? as opposed to the more vulgar pronunciation...
Yes, but I'm a 23 year old guy and immature enough to refer to them the other way. Do I want some sort of restraint of using it on the board, definitely because I don't want to see that word in every post.
Do I use it myself with my friends and sometimes on the board, definitely. It's just too funny,
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But doesn't it bother you just a tad that all these so-called backups or situational players are making the Browns their 5th or 6th team? If they were decent wouldn't they have settled in by, say, their 3rd team and stayed put?
Not at all, because different teams have different needs at different times.
I'll use Bowens as my example. By the 4th year in the league, he was allready on his 4th team. In his 3rd year, he had 3.5 sacks for the Packers as a situational guy. What did that get him? He didn't play a down the next year in the NFL. *L* He then settled in with the Fish for several years as a special teamer and situational rusher. Eventually, salary cap issues and a change in management sent him packing. The Jets had a need for a special teamer with some rush ability. He was signed and did a solid job in the role he was asked to do. Now they are going in a different direction, so they let him walk. We have a need, so we've signed him.
If we were talking about a starter, yeah, I'd say this isn't a guy we need, but we're talking about a special teamer and someone who can come in on passing downs and rush the QB. In that role, a part-time/situational role, he's a solid gamble.
Players don't stay put in this league. Even the super stars move on eventually. Situational guys never stay on one team, so this move doesn't bother me at all.
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" Situational guys never stay on one team, so this move doesn't bother me at all."
Especially one who seems to have no problems getting hired. Players who are just 'BAD" are no longer in this league.
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" Situational guys never stay on one team, so this move doesn't bother me at all."
Especially one who seems to have no problems getting hired. Players who are just 'BAD" are no longer in this league.
JMHO
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